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2 April 2024, 07:59 PM | #1 |
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5270.
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I would choose patek, update me on your decision!
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Patek for me. Had the 1st generation Dato and it was the most top heavy watch I’ve ever worn.
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Patek for me!
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Ok, someone has to say it... Neither, as for $100k am sure you know you can do far better.
But if you insist, obviously the ALS. Imho PP has become more of a marketing / PR brand, plus PP is a retail brand that is very easy to copy (which further proves they desperately need to release the Patek Philippe Connoisseur Series ASAP).
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[QUOTE=enjoythemusic;13212063]Ok, someone has to say it... Neither, as for $100k am sure you know you can do far better.
Part of the reason I posted the original question is because I am not a watch expert. I would welcome other options and suggestions. Thank you |
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I have slowly shifted my collection over the years to smaller sized pieces for comfort. An example and something you may want to consider is instead of the Dato, have you looked at the 1815 Chrono? Essentially the same beautiful movement without the calendar complication but much more comfortable to wear. I traded in my first gen Dato for the first gen 1815 Chrono and I couldn't be happier since. I never owned the 5270 but I have a 5170 which shares the same base movement. This is another permanent piece in my collection.PXL_20231202_220027353.PORTRAIT.ORIGINAL~2.jpgPXL_20231202_220124494.PORTRAIT.ORIGINAL~2.jpg
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Two beautiful pieces, love both straps especially the 5170!
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Thanks for your response. I guess I am attracted to the calendar complication. As much as I like the 5170 and 1815 Chrono, I always end up being drawn back to the PCC. |
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I would go Lange, movement architecture and finishing is in a league of its own.
The dial is also much more legible imho. You have a nice dilemma, good luck in making the decision which gives you the biggest smile.
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This for me
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7 April 2024, 07:04 AM | #14 |
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I voted Patek of the two!
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7 April 2024, 09:47 PM | #15 |
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In my modest experience with watches from each brand, Pateks feel like they were designed to be worn, and to compliment the wearer's character. In comparison, Langes feel like they were designed to be admired, especially from the back.
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I didn’t have anything close to that kind of heavy hitter for a Lange, but my 1815 never really fit great as I have a smaller wrist. The hockey puck shape case just didn’t work. For whatever reasons Pateks cases just fit bitter, even if the same general dial size.
So I’d definitely try both on. |
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I think the 1815 looks more harmonious, with the subdials a better size than the 5170 which look a little too oversized and too spread out from center. The pushers are also spaced out better from the crown on the 1815. The blued hands are a nice contrast to the ivory/white dial. The pulsation scale is a nice touch.
I am not a huge fan of Breguet numerals too. As for architecture of the movement, they are pretty similar, but the hand engraved balance cock is definitely a plus and the German silver is a nice hue. Obviously, from my opinion of the aesthetics, I favor the 1815. But from a value retention point of view, it's the Patek. |
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Isn't the patek 5270P like 150-180k preowned? If that's the case I'd buy a regualr 5270 for like 120 and save the rest or buy another watch down the line.
But if your budget is less than 100k and you care about money I'd go dato as well https://www.europeanwatch.com/watch/...-Pl-52678.html https://www.europeanwatch.com/watch/....03-51998.html https://www.europeanwatch.com/watch/...18K-52078.html |
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I’m a bit old school but I’d go for a Patek 3940 and have a separate Lange 1815 chronograph or a Patek 5070g.
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3940 is a great choice.
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PP is a king for me
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1815 Chronograph. Back and front much more aesthetically interesting!
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28 April 2024, 08:51 PM | #23 |
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To the OP -
Both are FANTASTIC! Can’t tell you what you should like and wear. You have to make that decision yourself. But You do realize these are very sophisticated DRESS WATCHES???!!! And Under no circumstances could these be “Daily Worn” like your DD 40. Neither are water proof and both are very complicated, with repairs starting at $5 to 10K. And you will need repairs and service every 3-4 years - these watches will cease when not serviced - Rolex can go 10-20 years without a service. I would seriously consider spending some time at Geary’s (The PP AD in Beverly Hills) and try them on and pick the brains of the sales reps there…. Let us all know what direction you go in. |
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Isn’t that like 20% more than budget and probably 50% more than comparable PP or ALS (not opining on value, just looking at facts). Let me reiterate, in todays market, nothing done by mentioned indie brands can be had for 100k
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My personal experience dealing with ALS, Rolex, and AP on servicing and after sales needs far eclipses what one gets from PP, where intake and service quote takes months alone. I've also heard QC, servicing, and response from some independents such as FPJ leaves the customer wanting. When I make the purchase I like to be comfortable that the brand will stand behind the watch and attentively service the watch and its customer for decades. Of course there is always a risk things can change over time.
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I also wonder about serviceability for some of these smaller independents (i don't consider Journe to be in that bucket) |
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