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SHHKNewport · 9 March 2016, 03:51 AM

Hi all,

I bought my first couple of Rolexes from the Rolex Boutique in South Coast Plaza in Orange County a couple of years ago... a two-tone Datejust II which I wear everyday and a two-tone GMT Master II which I gave to my father as a gift.

The boutique store has a policy wherein between years 2-4 after your original purchase, you can return your watch for the full retail price as a credit towards your next watch, as long as your upgraded watch is at least double the price of the original.

I am thinking of taking advantage of that policy and upgrading my Datejust II to a DayDate president. I thought about other all gold models but I got a Mercedes S class last year and think that the DayDate is like the "S class" of watches.

Anyhow now that I am doing a little research I think they discontinued the 41mm DDII is this correct? Should I look to buy a 41mm if I can still find one or go with the newer 40mm model? I have ruled out the original 36mm ones because I feel that's too small for my liking.

Which would you choose and why? The DD 41mm or 40mm? Any input would be greatly appreciated! Thank you,

Also, dumb question but does market fluctuations in the price of gold affect Rolex' pricing?

watchwatcher · 9 March 2016, 05:47 AM

They did discontinue the 41mm, but there may still be a few pieces out there in dealer inventory. If not, it makes your decision that much easier.

I think I would go with the newer DD40 for the new movement. While the 1mm in size doesn't really affect much, IMO, that movement is a major upgrade.

As far as the gold market affecting price...no.

HogwldFLTR · 9 March 2016, 05:53 AM

My choice would still be the DDII. I think the further they get out of production the more sought after they'll be. I like the more in your face look of the 41 mm bezels.

Daytona88 · 9 March 2016, 05:59 AM

There are some proportionate differences between the two as well as the fluted bezel. I prefer the new 40mm. YG in the DD is classic but I prefer the RG and the WG. Platinum is great but WAY out of my price point.

AK797 · 9 March 2016, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by watchwatcher

They did discontinue the 41mm, but there may still be a few pieces out there in dealer inventory. If not, it makes your decision that much easier.

I think I would go with the newer DD40 for the new movement. While the 1mm in size doesn't really affect much, IMO, that movement is a major upgrade.

As far as the gold market affecting price...no.

I had a DD2 but will be buying a DD40.

Cru Jones · 9 March 2016, 06:26 AM

Depends on what dial and metal you want.

For example, I would take a WG blue wave DDII over any WG DD40.

crowncollection · 9 March 2016, 06:29 AM

40mm all the way

lmcgbaj · 9 March 2016, 06:32 AM

DD40 no question.

Snow-Dweller · 9 March 2016, 06:45 AM

Definitely DD40....

However, remember that it's quite normal to get a discount of 25% and more on PM pieces. You might be better keeping your current watch and simply buying a new DD.

TheRolexKingofLV · 9 March 2016, 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cru Jones

Depends on what dial and metal you want.

For example, I would take a WG blue wave DDII over any WG DD40.

Exactly...both have different options. Homework time

Famz_01 · 9 March 2016, 07:37 AM

Go with the Day Date II its more sporty and the fact its discontinued is a huge bonus. This is coming from someone who had the 41 and sold it for the 40 and then re aquired the 41. The 41 in yellow gold is almost impossible to find so good luck

nyc2la · 9 March 2016, 07:43 AM

40mm - you get great proportions and the new movement. It's a beautiful watch.

tkc324 · 9 March 2016, 07:49 AM

Tough one...but I would take a 40 mm with the new movement

kilyung · 9 March 2016, 08:12 AM

I'm in the DDII camp

DeeTee · 9 March 2016, 08:18 AM

First off don't purchase from Baron and Leeds unless you enjoy getting beat over the head. Your lucky enough to be on TRF, to know better than to pay full price.
You can trade your 13k GMT in for a 35k DD40 (plus tax), or you can be logical and just buy one brand new of a trusted seller for 25k.

I'm in the same area as you, if you need help PM me.

SHHKNewport · 9 March 2016, 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dt32886@gmail.com

First off don't purchase from Baron and Leeds unless you enjoy getting beat over the head. Your lucky enough to be on TRF, to know better than to pay full price.
You can trade your 13k GMT in for a 35k DD40 (plus tax), or you can be logical and just buy one brand new of a trusted seller for 25k.

I'm in the same area as you, if you need help PM me.

Two years ago it was my first Rolex purchase so I really wanted good service and peace of mind...but then again I walked away under the impression that the Rolex MSRP are not really negotiable at authorized dealers? Are you saying I can get a new DD40 from authorized dealer for ~$8-10K below sticker?

RussW · 9 March 2016, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nyc2la

40mm - you great proportions and the new movement. It's a beautiful watch.

Exactly what I was thinking.

Galion · 9 March 2016, 09:13 AM

DDII is much nicer under my eyes. love the larger bezel.
Said that, I would go with a Sky Dweller.

Soleless Shoes · 9 March 2016, 09:18 AM

For me, the dial would be the main factor.

DeeTee · 9 March 2016, 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SHHKNewport

Two years ago it was my first Rolex purchase so I really wanted good service and peace of mind...but then again I walked away under the impression that the Rolex MSRP are not really negotiable at authorized dealers? Are you saying I can get a new DD40 from authorized dealer for ~$8-10K below sticker?

Yep! Pay cash and forgot the tax part too. Like I said if you need help let me know, I'm local and don't mind helping a fellow TRFer!

WhatTheDeuce · 9 March 2016, 09:29 AM

DD40 for me. It looks perfect...

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AK797 · 9 March 2016, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SHHKNewport

Two years ago it was my first Rolex purchase so I really wanted good service and peace of mind...but then again I walked away under the impression that the Rolex MSRP are not really negotiable at authorized dealers? Are you saying I can get a new DD40 from authorized dealer for ~$8-10K below sticker?

Yes 15-20% should be possible from an AD, keep hunting.

THC · 9 March 2016, 10:13 AM

40 for sure

ELITEVIDEOGAMES · 9 March 2016, 11:32 AM

I own a WG DDII and while those fancy new diagonal cut dials are tempting I think I will hold back for another year and see what happens. I get the feeling the DDII might get a cult following and be the sought after one years down the road. Not that is really matters much.

derekstlmo · 9 March 2016, 11:51 AM

40 all day long

sond86 · 9 March 2016, 12:34 PM

Check out the Rolex brochure as there are a couple other improvements on the 40 vs 41 besides movement.

I think there's low if any likelyhood of a discount at the boutique but possibly at other dealers.

ap1 · 9 March 2016, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nyc2la

40mm - you get great proportions and the new movement. It's a beautiful watch.

I'm with this

nick c · 9 March 2016, 01:06 PM

I would go dd 40mm

rabbithole88 · 9 March 2016, 01:11 PM

The AD buying your old watch back at full retail sounds like a good deal (do they also refund sales tax?), but not if they wont give you a discount on the new watch. Precious metal pieces often attract large (double digit) discounts.

If you get a decent discount you might not even have to sell the older watch.

Danny83 · 9 March 2016, 01:14 PM

Dd2 but find it on the forum not an Ad trust me

9 March 2016, 03:51 AM	#1
SHHKNewport "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Orange County CA Posts: 5	DayDate II 41mm or new 40mm Hi all, I bought my first couple of Rolexes from the Rolex Boutique in South Coast Plaza in Orange County a couple of years ago... a two-tone Datejust II which I wear everyday and a two-tone GMT Master II which I gave to my father as a gift. The boutique store has a policy wherein between years 2-4 after your original purchase, you can return your watch for the full retail price as a credit towards your next watch, as long as your upgraded watch is at least double the price of the original. I am thinking of taking advantage of that policy and upgrading my Datejust II to a DayDate president. I thought about other all gold models but I got a Mercedes S class last year and think that the DayDate is like the "S class" of watches. Anyhow now that I am doing a little research I think they discontinued the 41mm DDII is this correct? Should I look to buy a 41mm if I can still find one or go with the newer 40mm model? I have ruled out the original 36mm ones because I feel that's too small for my liking. Which would you choose and why? The DD 41mm or 40mm? Any input would be greatly appreciated! Thank you, Also, dumb question but does market fluctuations in the price of gold affect Rolex' pricing?

9 March 2016, 05:53 AM	#3
HogwldFLTR 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Real Name: Lee Location: 42.48.45N70.48.48 Watch: What's on my wrist Posts: 33,256	My choice would still be the DDII. I think the further they get out of production the more sought after they'll be. I like the more in your face look of the 41 mm bezels. __________________ Troglodyte in residence! https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=808599

9 March 2016, 06:29 AM	#7
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,165	40mm all the way __________________ watches many

9 March 2016, 06:45 AM	#9
Snow-Dweller 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Real Name: Clive Location: The Alps Watch: collections change Posts: 6,281	Definitely DD40.... However, remember that it's quite normal to get a discount of 25% and more on PM pieces. You might be better keeping your current watch and simply buying a new DD. __________________ . The path from WIShood to WISdom can have many turnings... ——————————————————————————————————— . 16803. 16570. 18038. 114300. BB58. GMW-B5000D.

9 March 2016, 07:37 AM	#11
Famz_01 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Real Name: Francesco Location: Toronto Watch: AP and Rolex Posts: 176	Day Date Go with the Day Date II its more sporty and the fact its discontinued is a huge bonus. This is coming from someone who had the 41 and sold it for the 40 and then re aquired the 41. The 41 in yellow gold is almost impossible to find so good luck

9 March 2016, 05:47 AM	#2
watchwatcher "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Larry Location: Kentucky Watch: Yes Posts: 34,556	They did discontinue the 41mm, but there may still be a few pieces out there in dealer inventory. If not, it makes your decision that much easier. I think I would go with the newer DD40 for the new movement. While the 1mm in size doesn't really affect much, IMO, that movement is a major upgrade. As far as the gold market affecting price...no.

9 March 2016, 05:59 AM	#4
Daytona88 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: USA Watch: 5712 Posts: 2,602	There are some proportionate differences between the two as well as the fluted bezel. I prefer the new 40mm. YG in the DD is classic but I prefer the RG and the WG. Platinum is great but WAY out of my price point.

9 March 2016, 06:26 AM	#6
Cru Jones 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Paris, France Posts: 34,595	Depends on what dial and metal you want. For example, I would take a WG blue wave DDII over any WG DD40.

9 March 2016, 06:32 AM	#8
lmcgbaj "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Real Name: G Location: Canada Watch: es are FUN!!! Posts: 1,979	DD40 no question.

9 March 2016, 07:43 AM	#12
nyc2la "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Real Name: Stephen Location: Beach Watch: 16660 Posts: 9,187	40mm - you get great proportions and the new movement. It's a beautiful watch.

9 March 2016, 07:49 AM	#13
tkc324 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Tom Location: Chi town Watch: Daytona AP DD Sub Posts: 3,717	Tough one...but I would take a 40 mm with the new movement

9 March 2016, 08:12 AM	#14
kilyung 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,873	I'm in the DDII camp

9 March 2016, 08:18 AM	#15
DeeTee "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Los Angeles Watch: Netflix Posts: 3,977	First off don't purchase from Baron and Leeds unless you enjoy getting beat over the head. Your lucky enough to be on TRF, to know better than to pay full price. You can trade your 13k GMT in for a 35k DD40 (plus tax), or you can be logical and just buy one brand new of a trusted seller for 25k. I'm in the same area as you, if you need help PM me.

9 March 2016, 09:13 AM	#18
Galion "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: PE - BR Posts: 558	DDII is much nicer under my eyes. love the larger bezel. Said that, I would go with a Sky Dweller.

9 March 2016, 09:18 AM	#19
Soleless Shoes "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Rich Location: United States Posts: 299	For me, the dial would be the main factor.

9 March 2016, 09:29 AM	#21
WhatTheDeuce "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Real Name: Kyung Location: Anywhere? Watch: cha want... Posts: 4,487	DD40 for me. It looks perfect... Sent from half way through the Kessel Run using Tapatalk __________________ Instagram: @whatthedeuce_

9 March 2016, 10:13 AM	#23
THC 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Real Name: Tom Location: Mandeville La Watch: 16610M Posts: 10,520	40 for sure

9 March 2016, 11:32 AM	#24
ELITEVIDEOGAMES "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Tom Location: Long Island NY Watch: me sell games Posts: 1,898	I own a WG DDII and while those fancy new diagonal cut dials are tempting I think I will hold back for another year and see what happens. I get the feeling the DDII might get a cult following and be the sought after one years down the road. Not that is really matters much.

9 March 2016, 11:51 AM	#25
derekstlmo "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Real Name: Derek Location: st louis Watch: Sd4000 Posts: 518	40 all day long

9 March 2016, 12:34 PM	#26
sond86 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Real Name: Gym Rat Location: USA Watch: Rolex Posts: 1,326	Check out the Rolex brochure as there are a couple other improvements on the 40 vs 41 besides movement. I think there's low if any likelyhood of a discount at the boutique but possibly at other dealers.

9 March 2016, 01:06 PM	#28
nick c Banned Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 26,846	I would go dd 40mm

9 March 2016, 01:11 PM	#29
rabbithole88 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: SF & HK Watch: Submariner 116610v Posts: 258	The AD buying your old watch back at full retail sounds like a good deal (do they also refund sales tax?), but not if they wont give you a discount on the new watch. Precious metal pieces often attract large (double digit) discounts. If you get a decent discount you might not even have to sell the older watch.

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