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Voss · 8 January 2011, 12:18 PM

I've just been browsing the web and finding a lot of people disliking panerai's saying they aren't real watches, how they will end up dying out because it is just a trend/fad etc etc. I find myself laughing at some of the responses saying that other brands are far more superior then Panerai because they use ETA's movements. I know that Panerai decorates the ETA movements that are put in there watches but, I have been told ETA movements that are decorated by Panerai are movements that are just as reliable as most in-house movements.

I am fairly new to Panerai's and recently bought a 297 :). Just wondering if the Panerai folks here can shed some light on why these people would say such things of a watch company that has so much history ? O_o

EvEr34 · 8 January 2011, 12:26 PM

you could probably find a million threads on the WWW where people dislike rolex....Do you like you Panerai??

Voss · 8 January 2011, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by EvEr34

you could probably find a million threads on the WWW where people dislike rolex....Do you like you Panerai??

I do ! I love my panerai already :D!! Just wanted to see what was with all that hate

DCgator · 8 January 2011, 02:18 PM

I love every watch I own for different reasons. Only have one Panerai, a Pam 88, but have the gold Radiomir on my list to buy this year.

Speed · 8 January 2011, 02:24 PM

What's not to love???

Speed · 8 January 2011, 12:45 PM

FACT:
Some people Love to Hate.

Whoomp...there it is.

RedBaronF2001 · 8 January 2011, 12:54 PM

Panerai has recently become more prevalent with the "folks with too much disposable income" who snatch them up (over, say, a Rolex). Therefore more people will comment on them these days. Some of that talk is negative.

marcinthemiddle · 20 January 2011, 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speed

FACT:
Some people Love to Hate.

Whoomp...there it is.

mfer · 8 January 2011, 12:55 PM

I say keep the hate alive, b/c if the demand get's any bigger for Panerai then the prices will just go through the roof. They are already high enough already.

dman · 8 January 2011, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mfer

I say keep the hate alive, b/c if the demand get's any bigger for Panerai then the prices will just go through the roof. They are already high enough already.

TRW · 8 January 2011, 03:07 PM

I Would Love to Wear a Pam Oneday.I Love the Look

dalip · 8 January 2011, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TRW

I Would Love to Wear a Pam Oneday.I Love the Look

Exactly...

It's just a matter of taste...

There is also a fair bit of "snobbery" around....people 'think' they have bags of knowledge and that gives them a right to frown upon certain brands. They are simply naive.

I really enjoy gazing at a Panerai on my wrist..they are a stunning watch - someone criticising the movement isn't going to change that for me.

sushisummo · 8 January 2011, 01:33 PM

I love my Pam.....:)

Andad · 8 January 2011, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Voss

I've just been browsing the web and finding a lot of people disliking panerai's saying they aren't real watches, how they will end up dying out because it is just a trend/fad etc etc. I find myself laughing at some of the responses saying that other brands are far more superior then Panerai because they use ETA's movements. I know that Panerai decorates the ETA movements that are put in there watches but, I have been told ETA movements that are decorated by Panerai are movements that are just as reliable as most in-house movements.

I am fairly new to Panerai's and recently bought a 297 :). Just wondering if the Panerai folks here can shed some light on why these people would say such things of a watch company that has so much history ? O_o

Hi Voss,

The Valjoux 7750-P1 blueprinted by Panerai is one of the most reliable and accurate watch movements available.

Don't read too much into Web opinions.

Voss · 8 January 2011, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by directioneng

Hi Voss,

The Valjoux 7750-P1 blueprinted by Panerai is one of the most reliable and accurate watch movements available.

Don't read too much into Web opinions.

And thank you for clarifying that it was much needed :)

mike · 8 January 2011, 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directioneng

Hi Voss,

The Valjoux 7750-P1 blueprinted by Panerai is one of the most reliable and accurate watch movements available.

Don't read too much into Web opinions.

Couldn't agree more. What a workhorse.

jamesbondOO7 · 9 January 2011, 12:03 AM

Because they are bloody ugly!

dukerules · 9 January 2011, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by jamesbondOO7

Because they are bloody ugly!

I'm betting you are as well! Nice username BTW!

Puffy · 11 January 2011, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by jamesbondOO7

Because they are bloody ugly!

i wouldn't call them bloody ugly, but i'd never buy one myself...

JJ Irani · 16 February 2011, 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Puffy

i wouldn't call them bloody ugly, but i'd never buy one myself...

x2!!

marcinthemiddle · 20 January 2011, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by jamesbondOO7

Because they are bloody ugly!

Whatever Mr. Positive...

jrd21 · 20 January 2011, 10:27 AM

I'm considering reducing my collection that includes Rolex, AP, Omega and Zenith but my 88 and 251 will stay with me. They're just fun watches to have and most people don't have a clue as to what they are.

Voss · 8 January 2011, 02:00 PM

Haha I see :), well i guess you guys are right haters will be haters :D

Spencer · 8 January 2011, 02:54 PM

I think people who aren't well informed think the watches are over priced for their simple look, plus I think alot of Afliction-esque meat head guys that tend to like Panerai give the brand a bad name.

GoreX5 · 8 January 2011, 03:41 PM

Whenever I look down at one of my PAMs, I always get a big smile on my face. While the designs may look simple to some, but for me (and I'm sure other collectors) each piece is a work of art and not everybody appreciates fine art. Just look at Van Gogh and Picasso whose original works of art were disliked by many and now are worth in millions.

Enjoy your 297 and welcome to TRF!

Cheers.
W.G.

esm · 8 January 2011, 04:06 PM

As mentioned already, haters will always be haters.

I'm sure many people are aware that the more/most collectable watches ATM don't usually have their in-house movement. Rolex is one of them.

Now that Panerai is moving towards full in-house movement models, this move will probably make those ones with ETA more "desirable" in the future... :wink:

Kapture1 · 9 January 2011, 12:08 AM

I think they are classy.

mike · 9 January 2011, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Kapture1

I think they are classy.

Yes they are. Much more so than some who comment.

Nica64 · 9 January 2011, 03:15 AM

Love Panerai!!

drtooth73 · 9 January 2011, 12:10 AM

I hate Panerai!
The strap changes are killing me..

8 January 2011, 12:18 PM	#1
Voss Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: LA, Miami, NY Posts: 20	Why do so many people dislike Panerai's? I've just been browsing the web and finding a lot of people disliking panerai's saying they aren't real watches, how they will end up dying out because it is just a trend/fad etc etc. I find myself laughing at some of the responses saying that other brands are far more superior then Panerai because they use ETA's movements. I know that Panerai decorates the ETA movements that are put in there watches but, I have been told ETA movements that are decorated by Panerai are movements that are just as reliable as most in-house movements. I am fairly new to Panerai's and recently bought a 297 :). Just wondering if the Panerai folks here can shed some light on why these people would say such things of a watch company that has so much history ? O_o

8 January 2011, 12:55 PM	#9
mfer "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Real Name: Mik Location: USA Posts: 13,723	I say keep the hate alive, b/c if the demand get's any bigger for Panerai then the prices will just go through the roof. They are already high enough already. __________________ member#3242

8 January 2011, 01:33 PM	#13
sushisummo "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: JT Location: in a house....:) Watch: Hmmm......? Posts: 1,776	I love my Pam.....:) __________________ Collections: -- R-O-L-E-X --AP-ROO -- P-A-N-E-R-A-I -- B-R-E-G-U-E-T -- I-W-C -- B-A-L-L -- O-T-H-E-R-S WISHLIST: Too many to list...... Member #23367

9 January 2011, 12:03 AM	#17
jamesbondOO7 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Real Name: BondJamesBond Location: The Algarve Watch: Rolex or nothing Posts: 3,928	Because they are bloody ugly! __________________ ♛ 5-digit Rolex or nothing ♛ 16030, 16613, 16713, 18038.

8 January 2011, 02:54 PM	#24
Spencer "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: US Posts: 1,338	I think people who aren't well informed think the watches are over priced for their simple look, plus I think alot of Afliction-esque meat head guys that tend to like Panerai give the brand a bad name. __________________ I'm a perpetual kind of guy Resident Audemars Piguet Fanatic

8 January 2011, 12:26 PM	#2
EvEr34 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Mike Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 1,909	you could probably find a million threads on the WWW where people dislike rolex....Do you like you Panerai??

8 January 2011, 02:18 PM	#4
DCgator "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: PNW Watch: DS,BLNR,SubLV,DJ2 Posts: 8,123	I love every watch I own for different reasons. Only have one Panerai, a Pam 88, but have the gold Radiomir on my list to buy this year.

8 January 2011, 02:24 PM	#5
Speed "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Posts: 19,695	What's not to love???

8 January 2011, 12:45 PM	#6
Speed "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Posts: 19,695	FACT: Some people Love to Hate. Whoomp...there it is.

8 January 2011, 12:54 PM	#7
RedBaronF2001 Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 575	Panerai has recently become more prevalent with the "folks with too much disposable income" who snatch them up (over, say, a Rolex). Therefore more people will comment on them these days. Some of that talk is negative.

8 January 2011, 03:07 PM	#11
TRW Banned Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Tim Location: tennessee Watch: 16623 YM Posts: 3,630	I Would Love to Wear a Pam Oneday.I Love the Look

20 January 2011, 10:27 AM	#22
jrd21 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: illinois Watch: DSSD Posts: 75	I'm considering reducing my collection that includes Rolex, AP, Omega and Zenith but my 88 and 251 will stay with me. They're just fun watches to have and most people don't have a clue as to what they are.

8 January 2011, 02:00 PM	#23
Voss Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: LA, Miami, NY Posts: 20	Haha I see :), well i guess you guys are right haters will be haters :D

8 January 2011, 03:41 PM	#25
GoreX5 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: W.G. Location: US Watch: Rolex & PAMS Posts: 300	Whenever I look down at one of my PAMs, I always get a big smile on my face. While the designs may look simple to some, but for me (and I'm sure other collectors) each piece is a work of art and not everybody appreciates fine art. Just look at Van Gogh and Picasso whose original works of art were disliked by many and now are worth in millions. Enjoy your 297 and welcome to TRF! Cheers. W.G. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

8 January 2011, 04:06 PM	#26
esm "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Eric Location: Location,Location Watch: this, bro... Posts: 15,340	As mentioned already, haters will always be haters. I'm sure many people are aware that the more/most collectable watches ATM don't usually have their in-house movement. Rolex is one of them. Now that Panerai is moving towards full in-house movement models, this move will probably make those ones with ETA more "desirable" in the future... :wink:

9 January 2011, 12:08 AM	#27
Kapture1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Matt Location: Flint, MI Watch: Ω 3570.50.00 Posts: 2,058	I think they are classy. __________________ Miss you JJ Wash out this tired notion that the best is yet to come

9 January 2011, 03:15 AM	#29
Nica64 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: USA Posts: 2,596	Love Panerai!! __________________ ______________________________ You can't turn back the clock. But you can wind it up again.

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