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Auto16610 · 3 May 2010, 11:42 AM

On my sub I notice that the magnifier cyclops is a bit off to the right of the date window. I have looked at others here and they all seem to do that. Does anyone know if that is by design and if so why?
Thanks,
Scott

mfer · 3 May 2010, 11:46 AM

Mine is dead on. Just move your head a little. If it is really off, go back to AD!

Auto16610 · 3 May 2010, 12:06 PM

It looks like your camara is pointed at the watch on an angle. Is that a straight on shot?

FlyingMoose · 3 May 2010, 12:11 PM

Look at the watch and tilt it so that the rehaut looks the same thickness all the way around, then you'll know you're looking at it straight on, and see if it still looks off. If I just look at it, the cyclops looks like you described, but it's because I'm not looking at it straight on just by estimating by eye.

Brad2000 · 27 July 2010, 10:24 AM

Similar curiosity here. Notice how the date window and the cyclops aren't perfectly aligned below? Close, sure, but even the naked eye can see they're a bit off. The cyclops needs to rotate a hair counter-clockwise.

If the rest of my watch weren't so perfect this wouldn't stand out with me...but it does.

Dan2010 · 27 July 2010, 10:30 AM

Yet another reason why I hate the cyclops. Love the no date watches and love the Sea Dweller but I am not one with the cyclops. I seem to be in the minority on here though.

RoleXavier · 27 July 2010, 11:07 AM

I always thought that the Cyclops and the crystal were one piece altogether!

I never thought that was a piece attached to the glass!

springer · 27 July 2010, 11:24 AM

The photo in post #5 indicates the crystal is off just a little. This happens, and is very easy to correct by a watchmaker. Most of the time when you see this, it is not the cyclops, but the crystal that is off the mark.

Brad2000 · 27 July 2010, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by springer

The photo in post #5 indicates the crystal is off just a little. This happens, and is very easy to correct by a watchmaker. Most of the time when you see this, it is not the cyclops, but the crystal that is off the mark.

Makes sense. I'll take it in when I have a chance. Thanks.

Brad2000 · 20 November 2010, 04:41 AM

Update on this.

I went to my AD and asked if they could adjust the alignment between the crystal and date window. They said my watch model was too new and they didn't have the right tools to make the adjustment on-site. They'd have to send it to Rolex.

I was fine with that even though they estimated I'd be without my watch for up to two weeks. Well, it ended up being almost a month before I'd get my watch back. Apparently the AD didn't include my watch's warranty paperwork in the shipment to Rolex, so Rolex had to go back to them and request the info be mailed before they'd start work. That added an extra week to the process.

My watch finally came back, though, and the cyclops was aligned to the date window to absolute perfection. The wait sucked but I'm happy now.

Cannop · 20 November 2010, 05:33 AM

Did you get charged for that adjustment?

Cannop

snog · 20 November 2010, 07:56 AM

a before and after pic would be good

Brad2000 · 20 November 2010, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannop

Did you get charged for that adjustment?

Cannop

Nope. Warranty service with a smile.

Brad2000 · 20 November 2010, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by snog

a before and after pic would be good

Maybe tomorrow morning when the sun's coming through the window.

GradyPhilpott · 20 November 2010, 11:40 AM

Mine seems to be a bit low, but that's such a minuscule issue. I simply move my wrist or my head to see the date and a micron or two really doesn't matter.

Now if it were at about 3:30 that'd be an issue.

I really could do without the cyclops completely because without my glasses, I have no hope of reading the date even with the cyclops and with my glasses I don't need a cyclops.

It does seem to be integral to the DJ design, though, so there'd be no advantage to removing it, even if I were so inclined.

r00t · 21 November 2010, 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by springer

The photo in post #5 indicates the crystal is off just a little. This happens, and is very easy to correct by a watchmaker. Most of the time when you see this, it is not the cyclops, but the crystal that is off the mark.

Do they need to disassemble the watch and remove gaskets to do this? How long it takes?

jmsrolls · 21 November 2010, 02:15 AM

The Cyclops is off on my Explorer II as well:

Fr. John†

Brad2000 · 21 November 2010, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Brad2000

Maybe tomorrow morning when the sun's coming through the window.

I used my crappy phone cam for these but you can see the results. I angled the camera so you can see the edge-to-edge alignment, both top and bottom.

r00t · 21 November 2010, 07:24 AM

Thanks for photos, Brad2000!

Does anybody know how crystal is attached to the case? I just bought new Sub and crystal/cyclope is little bit turned clockwise (few degrees i think). If it's easy to fix, i will go to AD to do this, but i am afraid about dust under the crystal and damage to gaskets that this "fix" can do. It's a minor problem and i'm not sure about this operation.

What you guys think?

Sorry foк my bad english. ;)

snog · 21 November 2010, 07:29 AM

it's not something you want to be doing yourself unless you don't mind paying to fix any mistakes you may make,it's glued on the glass,a bit of heat will free it.

r00t · 21 November 2010, 07:41 AM

snog, cyclope is fine, but whole crystal need to be turned counterclockwise by 2-3 degrees.

snog · 21 November 2010, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by r00t

snog, cyclope is fine, but whole crystal need to be turned counterclockwise by 2-3 degrees.

would think your AD would do that for free for you.

globalmedia33 · 21 November 2010, 08:17 AM

My cyclops is a little off on my GMTII Ceramic too but I don't worry about it too much. will have them fix it when I send it in for overhaul.

r00t · 21 November 2010, 08:46 AM

Im worrying to much about my timepieces.

And worst of it, that i have decent 10x LED loupe.

And i have only one watch that i can't find any reason for worrying even with my loupe - Lange & Sohne.

gt3pilot · 21 November 2010, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by r00t

Thanks for photos, Brad2000!

Does anybody know how crystal is attached to the case? I just bought new Sub and crystal/cyclope is little bit turned clockwise (few degrees i think). If it's easy to fix, i will go to AD to do this, but i am afraid about dust under the crystal and damage to gaskets that this "fix" can do. It's a minor problem and i'm not sure about this operation.

What you guys think?

Sorry foк my bad english. ;)

There is a metal crystal ring(under the rotating bezel) and a gasket that is pressed on with a special press. The watch then needs to be re checked to make sure it's still waterproof to the specified depth. Not something you would want to try to do yourself.

They can't just turn the crystal with out removing it. It would then need a new gasket at the same time. I'd just live with it if it's not a big deal.

-Scott B.

r00t · 21 November 2010, 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gt3pilot

There is a metal crystal ring(under the rotating bezel) and a gasket that is pressed on with a special press. The watch then needs to be re checked to make sure it's still waterproof to the specified depth. Not something you would want to try to do yourself.

They can't just turn the crystal with out removing it. It would then need a new gasket at the same time. I'd just live with it if it's not a big deal.

-Scott B.

Big thanks, Scott!

I think it doesn't worth removing crystal for such small alignment, especially when is not trivial task.

3 May 2010, 11:42 AM	#1
Auto16610 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Scott Location: Santa Cruz Watch: RolexOmegaPanerai Posts: 1,174	Question about the cyclops: On my sub I notice that the magnifier cyclops is a bit off to the right of the date window. I have looked at others here and they all seem to do that. Does anyone know if that is by design and if so why? Thanks, Scott

3 May 2010, 11:46 AM	#2
mfer "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Real Name: Mik Location: USA Posts: 13,723	Mine is dead on. Just move your head a little. If it is really off, go back to AD! __________________ member#3242

3 May 2010, 12:06 PM	#3
Auto16610 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Scott Location: Santa Cruz Watch: RolexOmegaPanerai Posts: 1,174	Ya but... It looks like your camara is pointed at the watch on an angle. Is that a straight on shot?

27 July 2010, 11:24 AM	#8
springer 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: jP Location: Texas Watch: GMT-MASTER Posts: 17,234	The photo in post #5 indicates the crystal is off just a little. This happens, and is very easy to correct by a watchmaker. Most of the time when you see this, it is not the cyclops, but the crystal that is off the mark. __________________ Member of NAWCC since 1990. INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.

20 November 2010, 11:40 AM	#15
GradyPhilpott 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: New Mexico Watch: 116710 BLNR Posts: 34,353	Mine seems to be a bit low, but that's such a minuscule issue. I simply move my wrist or my head to see the date and a micron or two really doesn't matter. Now if it were at about 3:30 that'd be an issue. I really could do without the cyclops completely because without my glasses, I have no hope of reading the date even with the cyclops and with my glasses I don't need a cyclops. It does seem to be integral to the DJ design, though, so there'd be no advantage to removing it, even if I were so inclined. __________________ JJ Inaugural TRF $50 Watch Challenge Winner

3 May 2010, 12:11 PM	#4
FlyingMoose "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: New York, USA Posts: 502	Look at the watch and tilt it so that the rehaut looks the same thickness all the way around, then you'll know you're looking at it straight on, and see if it still looks off. If I just look at it, the cyclops looks like you described, but it's because I'm not looking at it straight on just by estimating by eye.

27 July 2010, 10:24 AM	#5
Brad2000 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: California Posts: 12	Similar curiosity here. Notice how the date window and the cyclops aren't perfectly aligned below? Close, sure, but even the naked eye can see they're a bit off. The cyclops needs to rotate a hair counter-clockwise. If the rest of my watch weren't so perfect this wouldn't stand out with me...but it does.

27 July 2010, 10:30 AM	#6
Dan2010 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: South Carolina Watch: Panerai 914 Posts: 6,540	Yet another reason why I hate the cyclops. Love the no date watches and love the Sea Dweller but I am not one with the cyclops. I seem to be in the minority on here though.

27 July 2010, 11:07 AM	#7
RoleXavier Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Coconut Creek, Fl Posts: 212	I always thought that the Cyclops and the crystal were one piece altogether! I never thought that was a piece attached to the glass!

20 November 2010, 04:41 AM	#10
Brad2000 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: California Posts: 12	Update on this. I went to my AD and asked if they could adjust the alignment between the crystal and date window. They said my watch model was too new and they didn't have the right tools to make the adjustment on-site. They'd have to send it to Rolex. I was fine with that even though they estimated I'd be without my watch for up to two weeks. Well, it ended up being almost a month before I'd get my watch back. Apparently the AD didn't include my watch's warranty paperwork in the shipment to Rolex, so Rolex had to go back to them and request the info be mailed before they'd start work. That added an extra week to the process. My watch finally came back, though, and the cyclops was aligned to the date window to absolute perfection. The wait sucked but I'm happy now.

20 November 2010, 05:33 AM	#11
Cannop "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Duncan Location: UK Watch: Lots Posts: 443	Did you get charged for that adjustment? Cannop

20 November 2010, 07:56 AM	#12
snog "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: UK Posts: 908	a before and after pic would be good

21 November 2010, 02:15 AM	#17
jmsrolls Banned Join Date: May 2008 Location: USA Posts: 3,185	The Cyclops is off on my Explorer II as well: Fr. John†

21 November 2010, 07:24 AM	#19
r00t "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: World Posts: 50	Thanks for photos, Brad2000! Does anybody know how crystal is attached to the case? I just bought new Sub and crystal/cyclope is little bit turned clockwise (few degrees i think). If it's easy to fix, i will go to AD to do this, but i am afraid about dust under the crystal and damage to gaskets that this "fix" can do. It's a minor problem and i'm not sure about this operation. What you guys think? Sorry foк my bad english. ;)

21 November 2010, 07:29 AM	#20
snog "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: UK Posts: 908	it's not something you want to be doing yourself unless you don't mind paying to fix any mistakes you may make,it's glued on the glass,a bit of heat will free it.

21 November 2010, 08:17 AM	#23
globalmedia33 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Thien Location: Frisco,TX/Saigon Watch: All Rolex Posts: 2,754	My cyclops is a little off on my GMTII Ceramic too but I don't worry about it too much. will have them fix it when I send it in for overhaul. __________________ Sub. 5513 116710LN 116610LV “I THINK PERFECTION IS UGLY. SOMEWHERE IN THE THINGS HUMANS MAKE, I WANT TO SEE SCARS, FAILURE, DISORDER AND DISTORTION" - YOHJI YAMAMOTO

21 November 2010, 08:46 AM	#24
r00t "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: World Posts: 50	Im worrying to much about my timepieces. And worst of it, that i have decent 10x LED loupe. And i have only one watch that i can't find any reason for worrying even with my loupe - Lange & Sohne.

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