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3 September 2012, 06:45 AM | #31 |
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Count me in with the 2500 group. My 42mm 2500D PO is just right! Cheers, Bill P.
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3 September 2012, 07:02 AM | #32 |
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^ love the wet pics
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2500 C - D are insanely accurate |
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3 September 2012, 07:19 AM | #34 | |
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I would like to see ANY other movement beat that accuracy. |
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3 September 2012, 08:49 AM | #35 | |
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Sooo because Panerai made crappy movements you attribute the same to Omega. Not sure if serious. Didn't here you mention personal experience so I can only assume you generalize based on a very small minority(a/b models), rumors and hearsay. My D-PO keeps amazing time, don't know exactly, but looses about two seconds a week. And mine isn't a desk diver, since I bought it in '09 it has been used daily while teaching mountaineering in freezing and sweltering N Georgia and on to two summers in the middle east bearing 100-130 degree temperatures....I've become real confident in this watch. If I had to choose between the two today I'd go with the 85 but not at all because of quality issues with my 25....and the decision would be reeeeal close. I do have some faith that the 85 is indeed an improvement but in all honesty it really hasn't proved that yet since it is a new movement, I would say that at this point the 25 proved it's worth especially at it's price point. So the 85 may be an improvement but to say the 25 has a history of failing is just ludicrously preposterous. |
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3 September 2012, 09:00 AM | #36 | |
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I've owned seven 2500 movements (A, B, & C) since 2003 without experiencing any problems. All seven were as accurate (if not more so) as any of my three 8500 watches. Admittedly, the 8500 design is awesome but I suspect Omega will have to come up with an alternative when the pendulum swings back toward smaller watches. The solution may very well be a 2500*. |
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3 September 2012, 10:15 AM | #37 |
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2500 x2 for moi, both are exceptionally accurate.
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3 September 2012, 10:19 AM | #38 |
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Like FR. John, I have/had many 2500 powered watches ( 7-8) and they all are/were fantastic timekeepers. No problems whatsoever...that said, imo, the 8500 will prove to be a great movement.
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3 September 2012, 10:30 AM | #39 |
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With the exception of perhaps the JLC Polaris with python hands, I think the Planet Ocean is the absolute best looking diver in the watch world.
Classic with timeless lines, stylish, not too blingy/ fashion like. Has just the right amount of flair. I'm a Rolex fan but I think the PO is so much more distinctive and stylish in design than the Sub. |
3 September 2012, 02:44 PM | #40 |
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3135 all the way.
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3 September 2012, 04:50 PM | #41 |
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You guys crack me up, please don't take offence to my personal opinion. I wish you all the best of accuracy and reliability with your 2500, but my hard earned money will not be spent on a watch that has had a history of movement failures. I am completely turned off by any movement that if there is a issue, it has to be shipped to another continent for a service, I want to keep my watches close to home. This is the reason I sold my Panerai with the p9000 movement, my local Panerai AD could not work on it. Different strokes for different folks, but these days, I only buy watches that my local AD's can service.
I have had a few friends that have had stoppage issues with their 2500, that is enough to keep me away from a watch with that particular movement, especially with the new fantastic 8500 on the market.
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8500 for many reasons.
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4 September 2012, 09:37 AM | #44 | |
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I agree with those statements 100%. My local master watchmaker is Omega/Rolex trained and certified. No way am I shipping any of my watches off to a nameless, faceless "technician" for service or repair. |
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4 September 2012, 11:02 AM | #45 |
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I made the decision for the 8500 recently (bought on the forum) - the rave reviews for accuracy and reliability swayed me.
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4 September 2012, 12:21 PM | #46 | |
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The Internet has a way of blowing things out of proportion. The E46 BMW M3 had an issue with blown engines when it was first released, which the manufacturer figured out, fixed, and alleviated the problem. Same thing with the early 2500, which really doesn't seem to have a plethora of failures these days, as thousands of happy owners will attest on forums like this, WUS, and others. Perfect? No, but what movement is? Even the vaunted Rolex movements have their occasional issues, as a quick search of this site will reveal, but I don't let outliers dictate my purchasing decisions. Clearly, any issues with the 2500 were sporadic at best, seem to have been confined mostly to the early releases, and are clearly not commonplace with the overwhelming majority of them; otherwise we would be inundated with reports of failures here (and elsewhere). As to accuracy, I own five Rolexes, and the only one that can match my PO's level of accuracy is the Daytona. The GMT comes close, but top three are the two Omegas with the 2500 and the Daytona. And this after the first PO had a good five foot drop onto the floor early on (carpeted, but not exactly shag, so it took a good lick), and the second is still a young pup which isn't finished breaking in yet, so it should improve over time. It also holds its own quite nicely against my GMTIIc in the looks dept:
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4 September 2012, 12:48 PM | #47 |
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can't lose with either the 2500 or the 8500
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4 September 2012, 03:27 PM | #48 | |
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Don't buy it, don't like it, stay away, save your hard earned money.........no one cares. Your apocryphal, second hand stories might be the best entertainment on these forums. They are so filled with conviction and indignation without the benefit or pleasure of owning a 2500 PO like the rest of us have. A tremendous amount of emotion for something that you are not interested in. You need to direct all that energy to something you like. Long live our 2500 Planet Oceans......... We can buy two for the price of an 8500 |
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4 September 2012, 06:20 PM | #50 |
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Absolutely! Right up until your rotor post is shagged out
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The 2500 is an ETA 2892 with the co-axial escapement added. The 8500 is fully in-house as I understand it. As Dsio pointed out, the 8500 itself is only 5.5mm thick and thus is my vote, $6k worth of it actually:
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Maybe he'll even grow up to grace our presence with OT trolling posts as well.
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Both are winners, just so happens that the 8500 PO's don't fit well under a dress shirt. Resale value is great for both IF you plan on ever getting rid of it for some reason.
The same anecdotal "failures" can be found in car buying. You never hear from the 99% that has no problems with their car, watch, or whatever. |
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Well, my '79 was gone to the point of having disintegrated, and watchmakers have shown 3135s with severe wear inside of 5 years, nothing's been done to fix it. Then again some people breed faster than others
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I own a SD and a PO2500D, so I have an opinion on both. To question the reliability or durability of the 3135 is laughable, especially based upon watchmaker hearsay. Some local watchmakers make a living from servicing and selling Omega. They will be biased. Oh, and I've been here for 4000+ posts, 5 years, and I'm a published watch writer. I don't troll. |
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So why not write something productive and contribute, rather than making snarky comments like "3135 all the way"?
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It and the 3186 are the only Rolexes I've got that'll hang with my awful Omega 2500s in accuracy, and the 4130 is the only one with more power reserve. Any more profound observations you'd care to share?
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