Movement moving around the case?

[irish36]

Newbie here. Just purchased a older Datejust (16014) and brought it in for a service.

I just got a call back telling me that "when winding the crown the whole movement is moving around and the oscillating weight is spinning". I am not sure what that means and the watch was keeping perfect time.

Does this make sense?

Would this type of problem be corrected by a standard rebuild or would it require additional new parts to be ordered?

Thanks for any help on this. This forum is a great community for Rolex lovers.

[madmole]

Sounds like the clamps holding the movement in the body arn't tight. The oscillating weight is supposed to spin!!! that's how the watch winds

Who did you give it to for service?, the local car dealer? go get it back and take it to somebody who has seen an automatic watch before

[irish36]

Thanks for the reply. I took it to the local Rolex AD for service. I forget how to diagram sentences, but I think he was implying that the oscillating weight was rotating when the crown is wound. That doesn't seem right to me, but I'm far from an authority on the subject.

[irish36]

Spoke to the servicer again, and he indicated the entire movement inclusive of the oscillating weight was moving inside the case when the crown is wound.

He also told me that there were nicks on the hands and those would need to be replaced per Rolex specs because parts of the hands could "flake off" and get into the movement. He said they could not do the repair without replacing the hands.

Does this part make any sense?

[michigan.watches]

Originally Posted by irish36

Spoke to the servicer again, and he indicated the entire movement inclusive of the oscillating weight was moving inside the case when the crown is wound.

He also told me that there were nicks on the hands and those would need to be replaced per Rolex specs because parts of the hands could "flake off" and get into the movement. He said they could not do the repair without replacing the hands.

Does this part make any sense?

My guess is that the entire movement is not moving, but rather, the automatic device is engaging while manually winding the movement. This can cause the rotor to spin around when manually winding the watch. It can be the result of lubrication problems or worn parts. If worn parts are the issue, there will probably be an additional charge.

I don't think the hands themselves will "flake" but the luminous material might, if it's in poor condition or has been damaged in some manner.

[irish36]

Thanks for the reply. That makes sense.

Do you know if Rolex requires a change of hands if the lume has flaked off? I'd prefer to leave them original, but the AD told me they would have to do it.


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[michigan.watches]

Originally Posted by irish36

Thanks for the reply. That makes sense.

Do you know if Rolex requires a change of hands if the lume has flaked off? I'd prefer to leave them original, but the AD told me they would have to do it.


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Yes, if the hands are damaged or the lum is missing, Rolex will usually require that they be replaced.

[Dishpro01]

So go to a watchsmith that won't demand service that your not ok with. Its your watch and it certainly isnt under warranty any longer. Just choose your watch guy wisely.

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[77T]

Originally Posted by Dishpro01

So go to a watchsmith that won't demand service that your not ok with. Its your watch and it certainly isnt under warranty any longer. Just choose your watch guy wisely.

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A good choice is one that is cw21 certified. Rolex trained, and has a parts account.

As for the hands, if they are truly flaking, you should replace them. That watch isn't rare and the phosphorus paint can cause a mess.

The other option is re-luming them but has chance of something turning out poorly.

[timelord]

Need either lubricating or replacing!!!