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6 September 2011, 07:58 PM | #31 |
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1665 luminova service dial made also for Comex :
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6 September 2011, 08:17 PM | #32 |
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To add to the confusion, here's yet another white 1680 dial that is not well documented. It looks alot like a Mark I but look closely at the crown (spikes go outward) and the SCOC alignment. It is probably a Lemerich but does not match the Mark I exactly. No S/N info is given :
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6 September 2011, 08:18 PM | #33 |
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Ciao Ragazzo,
Good to see you online. Thanks alot for the pic of the Lemerich because I have this exact dial on my 16660 and it has a similar "stardust" effect. By the way, is this a replacement/service dial or just an example to show the "F"? Kayvan |
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the tritium dial for sapphire seadweller I have posted above was on a comex 16660 ;
so this dial is : 1) a replacement for early 16660 produced before 1985 circa ( passage from matte to glossy dials ) 2) standard dial for later 16660 and ALL 16600 ( untill Rolex has moved from tritium to lumi ). |
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Thanks for the reply Marcello.
Now back to the initial debate: Here are more of the infamous open 6 mark IV dials I've spotted on the net. The serials range from 5.39mil to 5.78mil and one even states punched papers putting them all in the 1978 range. Do you see a pattern emerging? : 1. 5398804 serial on e-bay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/ROLEX-SUBMAR...tem27bce2a4881 2. 5.4mil serial on E-bay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rolex-Submar...item4aae5c0d42 3. Punched papers dated 1978 on Chrono24: http://www.chrono24.fr/rolex/oyster-...esultIndex=138 4. 578... serial from Italy on Chrono24 (The pic is lousy but its the "Mark IV" allright): http://www.chrono24.fr/rolex/rolex-s...ch%2Findex.htm |
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Which ever way this goes, service dial or not, I applaud everyones input. For me this is what I love about TRF. For those wanting to learn and seeking knowledge this is a great place to meet and discuss Rolex dial, case, movement, or insert minutiae. That this is done in a friendly environment is rare. So a big thanks to those seeking to uncover the mysteries of the 1680 white dials.
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That is a significant part of the fun in collecting Rolex (all the subtle details, variations, and anonalies one must learn about and investigate) and its great to have a place to share this crazyness. I'm going to take the hands and dial off soon to end this mystery but first I want to know how one creates a poll on this site to vote "Service-dial" or "Non-service dial". |
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Caro Espertissimo Signore Pisani,
Do you have pics of the backs of any of the three 1680 dials you've posted? Would love to see them. Kayvan |
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Hi just want to post and check what mark my dial is.
I can clearly see it’s an mk2 or mk3. But I cannot see the difference between them. My 1680 is a 5,27 Mill serial. |
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no it's a mk1 ( see the very tiny fonts and the shape of the letters "f" and "t" in the word "feet" ).
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Then there's the tritium marked service dial that's actually luminova. Is that the Mark "V" that you were talking about?
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Marcello, in your opionion what dial MK is this one? Serial # 5092XXX
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That's a beautiful watch Frogman. Look at those chamfers! As if it left the factory yesterday afternoon.
Gents I'm looking for a 1680 white to add to the lineup. What Mark would you recommend getting? I am aware that overall state might be more important than dial being from a certain Mark, but let's please have your thoughts. |
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Great Thread and info
Thanks gents HAGWe |
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Intresting post. As far as I knew all dials with the L of Rolex to the left of the coronet were always replacement dials. As usual, I will keep on learning!
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are the blue submariner dial made od gold? I saw one with the blue paint damaged and the metal without the paint looks like shining gold ! ,
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Springer, would it be posdible to tell us more of what you know on this dial? Please ....I've seen it on a number of 1978,79 1680's but doesn't seem to appear on earlier models. The ones I've seen have no trace of any glow / lume apparent.
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Gentlemen, is this a repainted dial? And which one is it?
Good morning, and thanks to all of you for the most valuable expertise herein. I just acquired a 1680 with this dial here and am currently wondering (after having it under a loupe, on the beautiful shots the chrono24-trusted seller had posted the R and the X were hiding behind the hands) whether this is a) indeed a Lemerich and whether it b) has maybe been repainted?!?
To quote the seller, "The dial is 100% original and mint tritium from the 1970s, ... so are the hands, perfect match. You can also tell by the thick porous texture of the indexs." Reasons for maybe not taking this face-value, my local watchmaker suggested yesterday: 1. The R and the X both carry paint run down from the bottom of the letters. 2. The 5 of the "25" has been smeared between straight and curve. 3. The general thickness of the paint. 4. A large dirt particle enshrined into the "1" index probably while redoing it. I'd be most happy to keep the watch, but I'd like it to be what it is said to be. May I ask your advice? Thanks very much in advance! |
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I doubt very much that that dial has been 're-painted' or refinished in any way.
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dial and indexes ...
look untouched and in pristine conditions , so please don't worry !!
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Thanks, oh knowledgeable ones, that was a great and most welcome relief for the weekend :))
You wouldn't have an explanation what has made the R and X "bleed" downwards on their respective right err legs? And am I correct in assuming this is a Lemrich Mk I, due to the centered "L" and the genereral appearance? I may add it finds itself on a single red case with a 2.8 mio. number (and no, the idea of the purchase was not scoring a red dial from dark places and selling again, the idea was having a 1680 daily on my wrist with whatever period dial on it, the stealth factor adding to my joy, which probably is a very stupid move, but still..), now I've noticed this is not the only french fried watch (red beneath white) out there, any idea how these specimens come into existence? Is there a general theory or habit I'm currently not aware of? Thanx again, much appreesh!! |
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Thank you for reviving one of my favourite threads!
Two with much greater knowledge than I have already given you the re-assurance that this is a correct dial in good condition, the R and L look exactly the same as other dials of the same Mark which is indeed a Mk1. As you have already identified, if you have a 2.8m, it would have been a Red originally, not a white. I couldn't agree more about having it as a daily wearer, a great choice |
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Couldnt resist. My 5.23 from Andrew Shear. L and crown are positioned like Buffy's 5.27.
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Thanks again to all of you!
My pleasure! Totally great forum, magnificent people. Real aficionados are indeed the best brand ambassadors - maybe Rolex would do a better job in having you guys design the current lineup of watches. Been to the last two Basel worlds (wrote part of the IWC campaign for some time), those fortresses of tastelessness and pretentiousness make you think twice about loyalty, plus most of the hardware sucks big time (literally ha ha).http://www.rolexforums.com/images/smilies/agree.gif
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