Brando's GMT Master from Apocalypse Now sells for 1,952,00

[daveo5]

Does the man emulate the watch, or the watch emulate the man?
Is the particular watch endowed with mystical properties that wearer might be exposed to?
For myself, a watch is just a watch, be it plain and simple, or with multiple complications.
To connect a watch with a movie star: first consider what is a movie star. An individual who acts out fantasies created by a writer, author, screenplay writer.
What would be the bid for a watch worn by; Stalin, Hitler or Mao? Three real individuals remembered, not as movie stars, but as three men who changed the course of history in the 20th century. As new generations of movie goers, flocking to see fictitious action figures, how many will even know of Newman or Brando.
To pay huge sums of money for a watch, not valued for its own qualities, but for having been the property of a Hollywood actor is to me ridiculous.


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[inadeje]

Originally Posted by daveo5

Does the man emulate the watch, or the watch emulate the man?
Is the particular watch endowed with mystical properties that wearer might be exposed to?
For myself, a watch is just a watch, be it plain and simple, or with multiple complications.
To connect a watch with a movie star: first consider what is a movie star. An individual who acts out fantasies created by a writer, author, screenplay writer.
What would be the bid for a watch worn by; Stalin, Hitler or Mao? Three real individuals remembered, not as movie stars, but as three men who changed the course of history in the 20th century. As new generations of movie goers, flocking to see fictitious action figures, how many will even know of Newman or Brando.
To pay huge sums of money for a watch, not valued for its own qualities, but for having been the property of a Hollywood actor is to me ridiculous.


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Well said

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by Macnavara

Id say he was twice the actor newman was and to be fair outside golf no ones heard of jack

You're entitled to your opinion, but I disagree ... and so does the watch world

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[Seibei]

Originally Posted by brandrea

He’s no Paul Newman

True. Marlon Brando was one of the finest actors of all time. Paul Newman was good, but not quite in the same league. In terms of celebrity value and importance Brando is far ahead of Newman and that will probably be reflected in the future value of watches previously owned by them.

[Macnavara]

Originally Posted by brandrea

You're entitled to your opinion, but I disagree ... and so does the watch world

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Fair comment

[absoluteczech]

Originally Posted by gerobak

Can somebody explain why the final sale became 1,952,000? I believe when I watched it live yesterday it sold for 1,610,000. Do they add extra fees and commission?

perhaps after fee's. with auctions there's always fee's/premium.

[Eagle dunes 75]

Originally Posted by Macnavara

Id say he was twice the actor newman was and to be fair outside golf no ones heard of jack

I beg to differ on your point regarding Jack. He is well known throughout the world among both golf fans and the general public. He has been a class act for his 60+ years as a golfer and for his charitable contributions.

[doctoryellow]

I think Jack Nicklaus shouldn’t have tried selling his watch so soon. $1 million seems disappointing in comparison

[enjoythemusic]

PLN was also a very successful race car driver and racing team owner/co-owner. Have met him a few times... Would personally value PLN's Daytona over Brandos, though that's jmho.

Virtually no one knows of a Rolex Brando model, yet many know the Rolex Paul Newman :)

[meyers]

There's something to be said for the look of a bezel-less GMT Master. I for one dig it

[joli160]

Originally Posted by Eagle dunes 75

I beg to differ on your point regarding Jack. He is well known throughout the world among both golf fans and the general public. He has been a class act for his 60+ years as a golfer and for his charitable contributions.

Seriously, I never heard of Jack until the news that his watch was going to be auctioned. Than I googled him and understood.
I think he is big in the US but outside not so much.

[Eagle dunes 75]

Originally Posted by joli160

Seriously, I never heard of Jack until the news that his watch was going to be auctioned. Than I googled him and understood.
I think he is big in the US but outside not so much.

Jack will be 80 next month so his name and legacy may have faded somewhat especially with the younger generation but he is well known throughout the world with anyone over 40. He is arguably the greatest golfer who ever lived and is revered in many countries throughout the world.

[Tangier11]

Originally Posted by eagle dunes 75

i beg to differ on your point regarding jack. He is well known throughout the world among both golf fans and the general public. He has been a class act for his 60+ years as a golfer and for his charitable contributions.

x2

[Tangier11]

I am 46 years old, other than the Godfather, I think of Brando as the very overweight supporting actor unfortunately. To be honest I never knew anything about the Rolex/Brando connection until now. After the Paul Newman auction I think everything else will pale in comparison.

[RFBHD]

Originally Posted by Tangier11

I am 46 years old, other than the Godfather, I think of Brando as the very overweight supporting actor unfortunately. To be honest I never knew anything about the Rolex/Brando connection until now. After the Paul Newman auction I think everything else will pale in comparison.

Apocalypse Now.. On The Waterfront... Nominated for 7 Oscars,, won 2 best actors .... Brando is big time Hollywood.... but also a major idiot pain in the ass wack job....His best friends were Wally Cox and Michael Jackson ... Newman loved all over the place for sure... but 17 million for that watch ??? Just insane. Maybe the guy who got it just loved his salad dressing too.

[breitlings]

Originally Posted by AK797

I don't know if this applies in the real world, the PN and the man is folkloric for WIS, but for actors Brando is the King

Agreed. And it was prominently in the movie too iirc. I think it gains value vs next time it flips.

PN value I think will remain higher. But this is a cool watch.

[101031-28]

Originally Posted by daveo5

does the man emulate the watch, or the watch emulate the man?
Is the particular watch endowed with mystical properties that wearer might be exposed to?
For myself, a watch is just a watch, be it plain and simple, or with multiple complications.
To connect a watch with a movie star: First consider what is a movie star. An individual who acts out fantasies created by a writer, author, screenplay writer.
What would be the bid for a watch worn by; stalin, hitler or mao? Three real individuals remembered, not as movie stars, but as three men who changed the course of history in the 20th century. As new generations of movie goers, flocking to see fictitious action figures, how many will even know of newman or brando.
To pay huge sums of money for a watch, not valued for its own qualities, but for having been the property of a hollywood actor is to me ridiculous.

+1

[AK797]

Originally Posted by Tangier11

I am 46 years old, other than the Godfather, I think of Brando as the very overweight supporting actor unfortunately. To be honest I never knew anything about the Rolex/Brando connection until now. After the Paul Newman auction I think everything else will pale in comparison.

Brando, Newman and James Dean when they were young were three of the best looking and coolest men who ever lived, and then on top of that one of them goes on to invent modern acting in the naturalistic style that every actor tries to emulate today, so that is why Brando is regarded above all other actors; and Hollywood is a huge industry, bigger than any other really, certainly in entertainment, so a watch worn by Brando in a huge film would be expected to sell very well. The PN watch for WIS is thus like Brando's Oscar for On the Waterfront which I presume would today sell for crazy numbers for an award, if it was allowed.