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31 May 2016, 12:38 PM | #91 | |
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Is there a brand that you think is superior to Patek Philippe?
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Dufour has to be my favourite, great family, small and independent. Each individual parts are pretty much hand polished by the man himself. If one has deep enough pockets and enough connection to get on his waiting list, I would most likely get one. I heard he is passing the reins to his daughter, not sure if they will retain the same quality. So it's probably a really good time to get one now. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk |
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31 May 2016, 01:09 PM | #92 |
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So how many angels can dance on the head of a pin?
I'm just going to go ahead and state what's probably obvious to many, but with all respect to the level of finishing posted in these photos, is it really that important if it requires such a macro view? I've read this thread with interest, and respect the varied views expressed, even some which I vehemently disagree or barely understand. I think if we are going to examine these watches on a microscopic level though, somehow the overall aesthetic gets lost. My vision's not perfect, but I would propose that if the differences can't be appreciated with corrected 20/20 acuity, perhaps it's not really all that important. I'm not sure that even with the benefit of a loupe would I be able to discern some of these differences. |
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Out of the 157,319 members, perhaps everyone else has noted your position in previous posts, it does not stand out with me and as the OP has only been a member since last December with ~200 posts maybe you could share it with him in the interest of the discussion?
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31 May 2016, 01:18 PM | #94 |
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Agree the level of magnification is quite high, I do not find it to be at the top of my list.
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Sadly whilst I am sure Dufour and GB are the pinnacle. On an emotional level I don't lust after either, so no need to sell the house or press my nose wistfully against the AD window
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Meanwhile in the PP boardroom.. Thierry Stern: *Wipes off his sweat* *Heaves a huge sigh of relief* Alright guys, calm down! Business as usual! |
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Seriously sure having a perfectly finished movement is great, but the most important is what your eyes can see, if you see a beautiful girl with beautiful skin, but then take a microscope to look at her skin it will be a horror movie, better not to, and the same goes for the watches, if it looks great using only your eyes then it's fine, and the 240 I had did look great IMO |
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I think these things are extremely important, and they are a large part of the whole appeal of Haute Horology. I have a couple of Pateks, but I can recognise and concede that they are not at the very pinnacle of modern watchmaking as regards the finish. |
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While I share your appreciation for quality of finish, there are limits of resolution to which I subscribe. Viewed in proper lighting and acuity, I would expect perfection from my timepiece, front, back, and side, discounting of course the inevitable marks incurred though my years of enjoyment. What isn't important to me however, are imperfections observed under extreme magnification that I will never see or appreciate. So as to avoid further confusion, please allow me to illustrate my point over the next 3 posts. Imagine a day a the beach with your supermodel girlfriend... |
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... And she playfully sticks out her tongue...
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1 June 2016, 04:01 AM | #102 |
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Let's take a closer look, shall we...
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What's that? You still want closer? Okaaay....
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No way she's coming anywhere near me with that thing!
Oh, wait.... Never mind Maybe you understand better now? Sorry, Hollister, for the confusion that my initial post created. I'll try to express myself more clearly going forward. |
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lol. great explanation!!! I could not have done any better myself!! Even though just posting a pic of that chick would have been enough for me.
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One thing I've learned in my short time here is that there are certain brand owners who won't tolerate any criticism of "their" brand. Oh well. |
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Definitely not Chopard |
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*they are both amazing looking timepieces (the submariner suffers a bit because it is By comparison, commonly available.) *they can both be confidently worn in a variety similar circumstances and perform as expected. (The nautilus is somewhat limited due to the rigidity of its bracelet, I had a Japanese guy walking on my back and suddenly maneuvered to my wrist with disregard for my watch, as it was my sub, no harm done...the 5711 most definitely would have been damaged) (I don't take off my watch unless it happens to have a leather strap and would never wear that option out if I expected I might need to remove it) *in the end I decided to choose one, the submariner it is different but just as nice imho, it is 1/4 the price, a bit more capable and has a no date option. to much of the point in this thread, I Would prefer the nautilus without a see through case back, the 324 movement is not that impressive Quote:
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To address your most recent comments specifically, I apologize for what you have described as an absurd argument. It was neither my intent to argue nor to be absurd. Hopefully you and the other forum members can forgive me this once. My message, apparently extremely obtuse and poorly demonstrated, was simply to point out that micro analysis is not always such a good thing when it comes to matters of beauty. Unless you're suggesting that these micro enhanced images covey any sense of functional significance, then I assume our discussion regards our own personal aesthetic view of perfection. As I am no more likely to view the back of my watch thru these micro lens images than I am to view the SEM images of the supermodel's tongue, I will stand by my analogy - poor as it may be. I sincerely hope that your experiences on this forum improve, as I'm sure that there is much that you can contribute! |
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No, the macros do not show "functional significance", what they show is the quality of finishing, care and workmanship. Again, what's the point of a PP vs a Rolex? Functionally, the Rolex is on a par with PP, so it's not that... |
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Well, I tried.
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Tried to do what? How about answering the PP vs Rolex question.
BTW, I've been collecting watches for many years, and have done a lot of research as a result. I may be a "newbie" on this forum, but I'm not wet behind the ears. |
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Just like in your other posts, you are spewing negative comments to everybody on everything...
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Sorry for the confusion. |
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What is your meaning? What does haute horology mean to you? Explain why PP is the best brand. I strongly suspect it's a just brand thing for you, refute this.
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As an interesting point of reference, here is a close-up shot of the Rolex Daytona movement. Ok, not total eye candy yet nicer in some ways than the recent Pateks. BTW, the ceramic Everose Daytona here is +/-1 second every week or so. Far and away more accurate than any Patek I've had here, and have had over 10.
And since this thread seems to be degrading to....
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