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nylawbiz · 23 March 2009, 08:34 AM

Great advice Martin. Thanks so much!

ijen0311 · 23 March 2009, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by nylawbiz

Great advice Martin. Thanks so much!

Brian... remember about getting the Air-King thrown in for your friend Jen...

onkyo · 23 March 2009, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Deep Sea

Don't show the manager this thread...what would it gain you, other than tipping your hand?

Offer him the cash deal at 25% off...the rationale is you get the watches for 17% off retail, assuming you don't have them shipped out of state to avoid the tax.

The DSSD retails for $9250, and they're selling used for $6750-$7250 or so. Figure that number will probably hold, maybe drop a little, but not much below 30% off retail in excellent condition.

The Daytona is $9925, and is not selling for much less, even used in excellent condition. Figure it'll probably never drop more than 10%.

The GV sells for $6575, and I've not seen too many in the used market that weren't NIB resales, and they usually were listed for about retail, maybe 5% less. Who knows what the future holds for them as they become more available, but use the Sub LV as a benchmark, and figure they'll probably hold to 20-25% of retail.

So, if you get 17-25% off, net, you'll probably not lose much, and get to enjoy all three. If the deal is predicated on you buying all 3, at the same discount, you can unload the one you don't want for the same discount you got from the AD, and probably sell it fairly fast.

For me, the magic number would be 17% off, or 25% off if I had to pay 8% sales tax.

Good luck.

Agree with Deep Sea!

Brian, give the AD those options.....

And don't show him this thread. It won't help the deal.

nylawbiz · 23 March 2009, 08:40 AM

Gotcha Pav

kcmo · 23 March 2009, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ijen0311

Brian... remember about getting the Air-King thrown in for your friend Jen...

And something pretty for Karis!

ijen0311 · 23 March 2009, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by kcmo

And something pretty for Karis!

Shoo! I called it first!

How about... we will share custody of it?

onkyo · 23 March 2009, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by nylawbiz

Gotcha Pav

AD will probably throw in an AirKing for Jen for free also.

kcmo · 23 March 2009, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ijen0311

Shoo! I called it first!

How about... we will share custody of it?

Yeh I like your idea so I'm jumping on the bandwagon!

OK OK, I'll back off....you can have the AK!!! Then you can give me your Chrono Cockpit.....

ijen0311 · 23 March 2009, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by kcmo

Yeh I like your idea so I'm jumping on the bandwagon!

OK OK, I'll back off....you can have the AK!!! Then you can give me your Chrono Cockpit.....

yikes! You are a tough negotiator!

kcmo · 23 March 2009, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ijen0311

yikes! You are a tough negotiator!

Oh, I actually thought my offer was quite fair.....

ijen0311 · 23 March 2009, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by kcmo

Oh, I actually my offer was quite fair.....

Poor Brian is going to ban us from his thread

kcmo · 23 March 2009, 09:03 AM

Sorry Brian!!!! Back to you........!

ijen0311 · 23 March 2009, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by kcmo

Sorry Brian!!!! Back to you........!

(yes but don't forget about my AK and maybe somthing for Karis too)

kcmo · 23 March 2009, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ijen0311

(yes but don't forget about my AK and maybe somthing for Karis too)

onkyo · 23 March 2009, 09:15 AM

(wise move Brian keeping quiet)

nylawbiz · 23 March 2009, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by onkyo

(wise move Brian keeping quiet)

Out of curiosity, why do you think it would work against me if th AD saw this thread? I was wondering what your thought process was. Thanks again.

ijen0311 · 23 March 2009, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by nylawbiz

Out of curiosity, why do you think it would work against me if th AD saw this thread? I was wondering what your thought process was. Thanks again.

He'd think you're listening to a bunch of know-it-all Rolex owners

I'd just arm yourself with all the knowledge from here. You're a lawyer, you can make it work!

STEELINOX · 23 March 2009, 09:27 AM

not matter wether the AD sees this or not; what matters is what you are prepared to go with in the deal. The AD will find this thread amusing to say the least. Show it to him, you aint "tippin nothin" by doin so !

kcmo · 23 March 2009, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ijen0311

He'd think you're listening to a bunch of know-it-all Rolex owners

I'd just arm yourself with all the knowledge from here. You're a lawyer, you can make it work!

Agree! Sharing the comments here won't do you any good. We're giving you our advice to better equip YOU to 'state your case'

STEELINOX · 23 March 2009, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by kcmo

Agree! Sharing the comments here won't do you any good. We're giving you our advice to better equip YOU to 'state your case'

matter what is said here at all. The AD knows these numbers, he knows what he can afford to discount. Brian knows what his hand is; all which is what he can or would like to do. Just b/c he thought to get some outside input on the deal doesnt make a bit of difference - all it is to him is "entertainment value" and all that will happen is smiles and laughs, sheeze !
Thanks,
Randy

EDIT: Dont put too much stock into comments made here as you all know full well that the deal could go either way and has no real value to anyone except your own big inflated "ROLEX wearin" typin as fast as you can, fat egos !
Hmm !

hooliganhooker · 23 March 2009, 09:41 AM

This is too weird. I walked in to an AD yesterday here in Iowa looking for an Explorer and the AD pulled those same watches out of his safe. Asked him why they weren't in the case and he said he just got them and hadn't had a chance to do all the paperwork, etc. on them.

I wonder if Rolex just pushed a bunch of inventory out getting ready for Basel?

onkyo · 23 March 2009, 09:45 AM

Brian, I would keep the negotiation fairly simple.

Have all the numbers in hand to support you thinking and see if he bites.

Remember, in these tough times the buyer has the upper hand. Many of his watches have been sitting. I know, I have seen them sitting.

onkyo · 23 March 2009, 09:47 AM

One more thing Brian....

Make sure to examine the pieces in the display case carefully. They may have scratches from going in and out of the case each day. I have seen them with my own eye bang Rolex's into each other and the case.

STEELINOX · 23 March 2009, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by onkyo

One more thing Brian....

Make sure to examine the pieces in the display case carefully. They may have scratches from going in and out of the case each day. I have seen them with my own eye bang Rolex's into each other and the case.

forget about the keys.
Sales peeps are always handling watches and keys together ~

Welshwatchman · 23 March 2009, 10:02 AM

I hope that you get a really good deal but I must say I'd be surprised if you get 20-25% off the three.

After all, out of a probable extensive display of Rolex watches these three are probably the most sale able watches he has.

Even though the UK is in trouble financially the dealers are not budging on price.

In a moment of madness yesterday I nearly pulled the trigger on a Patek 5146 and it was only the dealer's stingy 8% "best discount" that scuppered the deal. He played hardball and I walked.

ROLEXOFMIAMI · 23 March 2009, 10:08 AM

dont buy the watches with the thought of selling them , in this market is though .

nylawbiz · 23 March 2009, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by onkyo

One more thing Brian....

Make sure to examine the pieces in the display case carefully. They may have scratches from going in and out of the case each day. I have seen them with my own eye bang Rolex's into each other and the case.

Short of a gas or something, would you skuttle the deal over scratches, or just use i as a bargaining point? I don't plan on negotiating on that level More like, whats your best price? Then, well, this is what I have to spend. Something like that. What's your take?

nylawbiz · 23 March 2009, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ROLEXOFMIAMI

dont buy the watches with the thought of selling them , in this market is though .

No, not with the thought of selling them now, but the thought of preserving value. I think we all like to believe that we have some equity in our Rolexes (I mean they're not TAG's!!!)

Strut99GT · 23 March 2009, 11:09 AM

Why has this thread focused so clearly on getting all 3? Do you have a particular affinity for two, or one alone? I know you're trying to maximize your discount but it seems the fanfare has swayed toward a detriment of logic. I'd be surprised if you couldn't get an outstanding discount on the DSSD and Milgauss together, for example. The sticky one for discounts should be the Daytona.

mdtddd2007 · 23 March 2009, 01:28 PM

I agreed. Daytona would be the least discount. Deep sea more then GV then Daytona. Good luck...

23 March 2009, 09:27 AM	#108
STEELINOX 2024 ROLEX DATE-JUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Sink-O! Location: a praire in AZ Watch: ROLEX-less atm... Posts: 14,007	it really does... not matter wether the AD sees this or not; what matters is what you are prepared to go with in the deal. The AD will find this thread amusing to say the least. Show it to him, you aint "tippin nothin" by doin so !

23 March 2009, 10:02 AM	#115
Welshwatchman "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Real Name: Paul Location: Wales, UK Posts: 14,578	I hope that you get a really good deal but I must say I'd be surprised if you get 20-25% off the three. After all, out of a probable extensive display of Rolex watches these three are probably the most sale able watches he has. Even though the UK is in trouble financially the dealers are not budging on price. In a moment of madness yesterday I nearly pulled the trigger on a Patek 5146 and it was only the dealer's stingy 8% "best discount" that scuppered the deal. He played hardball and I walked. __________________ ..33

23 March 2009, 08:34 AM	#91
nylawbiz Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Brian Location: New York Watch: too many Posts: 705	Great advice Martin. Thanks so much!

23 March 2009, 08:40 AM	#94
nylawbiz Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Brian Location: New York Watch: too many Posts: 705	Gotcha Pav

23 March 2009, 09:03 AM	#102
kcmo "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Real Name: Karis Location: USA Posts: 19,377	Sorry Brian!!!! Back to you........!

23 March 2009, 09:15 AM	#105
onkyo Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Pav Location: Manhattan Posts: 11,495	(wise move Brian keeping quiet)

23 March 2009, 09:41 AM	#111
hooliganhooker Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Robert Location: Iowa Watch: Rolex MilGauss Posts: 513	This is too weird. I walked in to an AD yesterday here in Iowa looking for an Explorer and the AD pulled those same watches out of his safe. Asked him why they weren't in the case and he said he just got them and hadn't had a chance to do all the paperwork, etc. on them. I wonder if Rolex just pushed a bunch of inventory out getting ready for Basel?

23 March 2009, 09:45 AM	#112
onkyo Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Pav Location: Manhattan Posts: 11,495	Brian, I would keep the negotiation fairly simple. Have all the numbers in hand to support you thinking and see if he bites. Remember, in these tough times the buyer has the upper hand. Many of his watches have been sitting. I know, I have seen them sitting.

23 March 2009, 09:47 AM	#113
onkyo Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Pav Location: Manhattan Posts: 11,495	One more thing Brian.... Make sure to examine the pieces in the display case carefully. They may have scratches from going in and out of the case each day. I have seen them with my own eye bang Rolex's into each other and the case.

23 March 2009, 10:08 AM	#116
ROLEXOFMIAMI Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Meir Location: Miami, Fl Watch: ROLEX Posts: 55	dont buy the watches with the thought of selling them , in this market is though .

23 March 2009, 11:09 AM	#119
Strut99GT Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Benbrook, TX Posts: 410	Why has this thread focused so clearly on getting all 3? Do you have a particular affinity for two, or one alone? I know you're trying to maximize your discount but it seems the fanfare has swayed toward a detriment of logic. I'd be surprised if you couldn't get an outstanding discount on the DSSD and Milgauss together, for example. The sticky one for discounts should be the Daytona.

23 March 2009, 01:28 PM	#120
mdtddd2007 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: U.S Watch: Rolex, PP, AP, GS Posts: 5,663	I agreed. Daytona would be the least discount. Deep sea more then GV then Daytona. Good luck...

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