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fmc000 · 27 July 2017, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by KarlS

Get via US AD - will save lots of headaches...insurance costs are a nightmare...import duties etc. Same price do the AD and start buiding arelationship which may do well for the future

Very sound advice.

watchucallit · 28 July 2017, 05:14 AM

Gronefeld said they would pay for those things.. so do you think any advantage to USA dealer vs direct...

lapince · 28 July 2017, 07:00 AM

Depends on level of customization you want, for my KV no way I could have gone through dealer, if you want something easier go AD

KarlS · 28 July 2017, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by watchucallit

Gronefeld said they would pay for those things.. so do you think any advantage to USA dealer vs direct...

In that case tell them that with VAT at 19%, insurance Costing on shipping just over $1000 to give you the same discount, u will collect have a holiday on the savings

With an AD you could get quicker. I can only speak for KV but he certainly will look after his US distributor first as they supported him when he was unknown and thus it's pay back

watchucallit · 28 July 2017, 03:51 PM

My understanding is that if you ship to USA no VAT but USA import fee that is generally less than 19% but exact percentage dependent on country of import. However I am not sure what the AD take is but a lot of savings there. But the USA taxes are also charged to the AD so major savings is the AD cut.

KarlS · 28 July 2017, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by watchucallit

My understanding is that if you ship to USA no VAT but USA import fee that is generally less than 19% but exact percentage dependent on country of import. However I am not sure what the AD take is but a lot of savings there. But the USA taxes are also charged to the AD so major savings is the AD cut.

What price has the AD quoted and what pice Netherlands 🇳🇱?

watchucallit · 28 July 2017, 04:37 PM

USA AD and Netherlands direct the same 57,500 Euros

lapince · 28 July 2017, 09:38 PM

A member from US said that importing a watch there you were recquired to pay 5 or 7%, if they can give you the 20% tax refund in Holland might be interesting. Not sure about the US import, just what a member said...

KarlS · 28 July 2017, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by watchucallit

USA AD and Netherlands direct the same 57,500 Euros

The price on the website excludes VAT so does the Netherlands price include or exclude. If it excludes the USA is way cheaper and if includes VAT then if you claim it back there's about EUR 10000 you can get back by taking a holiday

watchucallit · 29 July 2017, 12:38 AM

Karl..My price is inclusive of taxes and delivery. So you make a good point. I travel overseas about 6x per year and about half to Europe. I hope that perhaps one of my work meetings can correlate in time with completion of the watch. Truthfully I love coming to Europe but so tired of being on planes..

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Originally Posted by KarlS

The price on the website excludes VAT so does the Netherlands price include or exclude. If it excludes the USA is way cheaper and if includes VAT then if you claim it back there's about EUR 10000 you can get back by taking a holiday

lapince · 29 July 2017, 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by watchucallit

Karl..My price is inclusive of taxes and delivery. So you make a good point. I travel overseas about 6x per year and about half to Europe. I hope that perhaps one of my work meetings can correlate in time with completion of the watch. Truthfully I love coming to Europe but so tired of being on planes..

Get to know first if you go there if they can do tax refund, in France many shops and others don't do it, my grey dealer friend does it but he told me it's a headache accounting and paperwork wise, most don't do it...

watchucallit · 29 July 2017, 06:49 AM

Well its a done deal now.. I wired the deposit today. .Now i will discuss dials with them and post a poll thread once i am down to top choices

texex91 · 29 July 2017, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by watchucallit

Well its a done deal now.. I wired the deposit today. .Now i will discuss dials with them and post a poll thread once i am down to top choices

Congrats

lapince · 29 July 2017, 08:08 AM

Congrats, can't wait to see it

GB-man · 29 July 2017, 08:14 AM

Congrats

PJ S · 29 July 2017, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by watchucallit

Well its a done deal now.. I wired the deposit today.

Well done.

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Originally Posted by watchucallit

Now i will discuss dials with them and post a poll thread once i am down to top choices

Nope, make the decision yourself once Tim or Bart send you images of the available designs – don’t turn it into a designed by committee.
You know what looks good and which colours you prefer, etc – we’ll just wait in anticipation to see what you ended up ordering.

watchucallit · 29 July 2017, 11:14 AM

Well i dont mind getting comments because i will post the ones i cannot decide between ... but in the end will decide.. regardless of the vote

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Originally Posted by PJ S

Well done.

Nope, make the decision yourself once Tim or Bart send you images of the available designs – don’t turn it into a designed by committee.
You know what looks good and which colours you prefer, etc – we’ll just wait in anticipation to see what you ended up ordering.

watchucallit · 29 July 2017, 11:16 AM

When i read the invoice.. it is a little unclear .. will have to clarify but if they ship to USA wont have to pay any shipping or tax.

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Originally Posted by lapince

A member from US said that importing a watch there you were recquired to pay 5 or 7%, if they can give you the 20% tax refund in Holland might be interesting. Not sure about the US import, just what a member said...

lapince · 29 July 2017, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by watchucallit

When i read the invoice.. it is a little unclear .. will have to clarify but if they ship to USA wont have to pay any shipping or tax.

You better get to know, Kari has tax free prices, so you need to add your country's taxes and duties

KarlS · 29 July 2017, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by lapince

You better get to know, Kari has tax free prices, so you need to add your country's taxes and duties

It's the same. They price before VAT ....or you are in for another surprise!

jenniferjanef · 29 July 2017, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by texex91

I have a headache now.

Glad I just buy watches I like.

This who did what first, or who is or is not a god is too much work for me.

OP let us know what you decide.

LOL

watchucallit · 30 July 2017, 02:06 AM

I know i am not paying tax they made that clear--- it is on the invoice. What I am confused about is what taxes would be charged to the company if sent to the USA from the Netherlands. I told them i wanted to leave open the option of picking up in person vs having them ship to me in USA. But it is clear I pay no tax and the price was inclusive.

I am also not sure if i pick it up in person if i would have to pay them VAT and then they expect me to get it back or if they are paying the VAT and I could get that back if I go through the process at the airport and like was suggested I could use the delta to pay for the trip to Europe.. That is what is not clear to me.

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Originally Posted by KarlS

It's the same. They price before VAT ....or you are in for another surprise!

KarlS · 30 July 2017, 03:10 AM

^^dont worry let's get that watch...think it will be s first on TRF

archer75 · 30 July 2017, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by watchucallit

Well its a done deal now.. I wired the deposit today. .Now i will discuss dials with them and post a poll thread once i am down to top choices

Congrats.
I like their work too and if I will hv time my next trip to Netherlands, I will try to visit their atelier.

fmc000 · 31 July 2017, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by watchucallit

Well its a done deal now.. I wired the deposit today. .Now i will discuss dials with them and post a poll thread once i am down to top choices

Congrats in advance!

beshannon · 1 August 2017, 09:36 AM

Congrats and beautiful watches.

I am almost sorry I became aware of them because they are out of my price range.

watchucallit · 1 August 2017, 11:18 AM

thanks for the congrats but wait until I get it :). I am discussing dials with them right now.

beshannon · 1 August 2017, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by watchucallit

thanks for the congrats but wait until I get it :). I am discussing dials with them right now.

Understood.

Making it this far down the path is worthy of congratulations in itself!

watchucallit · 2 August 2017, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by beshannon

Understood.

Making it this far down the path is worthy of congratulations in itself!

29 July 2017, 08:14 AM	#105
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1 August 2017, 09:36 AM	#116
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28 July 2017, 05:14 AM	#92
watchucallit "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: San Fran Posts: 2,214	Gronefeld said they would pay for those things.. so do you think any advantage to USA dealer vs direct...

28 July 2017, 07:00 AM	#93
lapince "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Mars Watch: 5712 Posts: 11,509	Depends on level of customization you want, for my KV no way I could have gone through dealer, if you want something easier go AD

28 July 2017, 03:51 PM	#95
watchucallit "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: San Fran Posts: 2,214	My understanding is that if you ship to USA no VAT but USA import fee that is generally less than 19% but exact percentage dependent on country of import. However I am not sure what the AD take is but a lot of savings there. But the USA taxes are also charged to the AD so major savings is the AD cut.

28 July 2017, 04:37 PM	#97
watchucallit "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: San Fran Posts: 2,214	USA AD and Netherlands direct the same 57,500 Euros

28 July 2017, 09:38 PM	#98
lapince "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Mars Watch: 5712 Posts: 11,509	A member from US said that importing a watch there you were recquired to pay 5 or 7%, if they can give you the 20% tax refund in Holland might be interesting. Not sure about the US import, just what a member said...

29 July 2017, 06:49 AM	#102
watchucallit "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: San Fran Posts: 2,214	Well its a done deal now.. I wired the deposit today. .Now i will discuss dials with them and post a poll thread once i am down to top choices

29 July 2017, 08:08 AM	#104
lapince "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Mars Watch: 5712 Posts: 11,509	Congrats, can't wait to see it

30 July 2017, 03:10 AM	#113
KarlS Banned Join Date: Nov 2015 Real Name: Karl Location: Kuwait Posts: 5,228	^^dont worry let's get that watch...think it will be s first on TRF

1 August 2017, 11:18 AM	#117
watchucallit "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: San Fran Posts: 2,214	thanks for the congrats but wait until I get it :). I am discussing dials with them right now.

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