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Old 5 October 2017, 02:01 AM   #121
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Of course the DJ is a dressier watch and there are a lot of other dressier watches out there, but the Sub, and especially the ceramic ones, is a dressy looking watch. Hence the description versatile that has followed this watch everywhere.
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Old 5 October 2017, 03:19 AM   #122
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I think very little difference is made here between (i) a suit, where in our day, we’d have to admit, pretty much any watch is admissible, and (ii) black tie, where would be poor form to wear any watch. For what good is knowing the time when one is enjoying whatever function commends a tux.

And while those various Rolex ambassadors or Danny Craig may not look silly with their bow ties out, shilling product on one’s wrist at any real world black tie event outside of Hollywood would hardly qualify as polite.
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Old 5 October 2017, 03:37 AM   #123
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As long as the king of Norway (Harald Rex) can wear his GMT Master 1675 to formal events like May 17th in Norway - I rest my case.

And he also wears it at other formal events too.





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Old 5 October 2017, 04:11 AM   #124
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Nice mic drop !

There can be no better example to proof that you can now wear whatever you like.

We know now that traditionally, to wear no watch is required, but who cares anymore ?

Today you can wear a orange Omega Co-Axial and some will find it trendy.
Wear a SS bracelet and you will see some rolling eyes.
Wear a dress watch, it's still a watch.
Wear no watch and some will say:" look at him, he don't even have a watch.".

To each his own.
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Old 5 October 2017, 04:22 AM   #125
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Absolutely. Here's the secret - no one cares! Wear what you enjoy.
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Old 5 October 2017, 04:44 AM   #126
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+1 for wearing whatever you want....but I definitely have other preferences than a sub for formal wear. Wouldn't ding someone for it though if they did it....I've seen classic Casios with suits and I don't think there's much wrong with that.
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Old 5 October 2017, 04:54 AM   #127
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Ill be wearing it casual...sport and suited up
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Old 5 October 2017, 05:04 AM   #128
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Got new french cuff shirts so could wear DSSD every day

People don't notice anyway, and any sports Rolex will look better than an Apple watch
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Old 5 October 2017, 07:11 AM   #129
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This comes up in one form or another on every watch forum every so often. It always goes the same.

Dive watches are not dress watches so some of us simply think it's a combination we wouldn't make for ourselves and are very unlikely to be convinced otherwise.

Others think it's fine or even believe they are trend setters. They will also not change their minds.

Some boldly say they not only wear dive watches with a suit, they wear plastic watches with a Tux. These people just might be trying a little too hard.

I don't think any of us care what anyone else does. Like many I am in the camp of "not something I'd do but you can do whatever you want". The original question was actually "Is it a dress watch?"....No, it absolutely isn't. "Can I wear it with a suit?"....Of course you can, and nobody will likely notice, care or question it.
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Old 5 October 2017, 07:21 AM   #130
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Old 5 October 2017, 08:03 AM   #131
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Old 5 October 2017, 09:00 AM   #132
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I just went to a wedding...wore a suit..didn't think twice about wearing my SD.
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Old 5 October 2017, 09:35 AM   #133
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The sub is one of the most versatile watches. Goes well with a white t-shirt and jeans and peaking under a nice shirt cuff. Even looks good when in the buff (jk) Can't go wrong...

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Old 5 October 2017, 10:52 AM   #134
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Wear the sea dweller for casual and with suits,
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Old 5 October 2017, 11:58 AM   #135
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The original question was actually "Is it a dress watch?"....No, it absolutely isn't.
Haha. I like how you state to each their own, but then state an opinion as an absolute.

James Bond (for the previous generation) and the shiny ceramic bezel (for this generation) disagree with you.
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Old 5 October 2017, 12:07 PM   #136
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No way, need an excuse to buy another watch! 'Shucks a Sub isn't proper for wearing with a suit in this situation, I need to look at the PP site again.' :)
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Old 5 October 2017, 12:23 PM   #137
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Haha. I like how you state to each their own, but then state an opinion as an absolute.

James Bond (for the previous generation) and the shiny ceramic bezel (for this generation) disagree with you.
It's clearly an attractive and luxurious watch and yes it doesn't look completely out of place with a suit. I get it, but it's all that while still being a dive watch at it's core. Are you suggesting you would put it in the dress watch and not the dive watch category?
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Old 5 October 2017, 12:38 PM   #138
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Do you wear SUBs, as a dress watch?

My contribution to absolutely yes!

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Old 5 October 2017, 01:07 PM   #139
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Of course you can wear a sports rolex to a formal event. It goes with everything suit, tux, casual wear.
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Old 5 October 2017, 02:04 PM   #140
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It's clearly an attractive and luxurious watch and yes it doesn't look completely out of place with a suit. I get it, but it's all that while still being a dive watch at it's core. Are you suggesting you would put it in the dress watch and not the dive watch category?
Agree completely.

Whether it's appropriate to wear with a suit may be a matter of opinion, whether it's a dress watch is not.

I wouldn't wear a Sub with a tux any more than I'd wear a Calatrava sport fishing.


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Old 5 October 2017, 02:14 PM   #141
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Lots of good arguments on both sides of the aisle. I always say, "Wear what you like and like what you wear." A wise man once said, "Life is not a dress rehearsal."
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Old 5 October 2017, 02:24 PM   #142
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One thing that does bug me: the idea that an expensive watch is a substitute for dressing well

My take is that if someone doesn't care enough to read and follow the dress code, then they are disrespecting the host. However, watches are not relevant to modern dress codes IMO

I kicked a guest out of my wedding for wearing a short sleeve polo and no jacket. "Seriously, man? Just because of my outfit?" Yeah, dude. Seriously.
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Old 5 October 2017, 03:15 PM   #143
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Yep, all the time. Good more casual alternate to my normal JLC


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Old 5 October 2017, 04:45 PM   #144
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I only got my sub date less than a month ago and have worn it every single day with absolutely everything.

I personally find that because of the shiny ceramic bezel and shiny crystal glass it actually looks more "dressy" than "sporty".
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Old 5 October 2017, 05:13 PM   #145
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It's clearly an attractive and luxurious watch and yes it doesn't look completely out of place with a suit. I get it, but it's all that while still being a dive watch at it's core. Are you suggesting you would put it in the dress watch and not the dive watch category?
I would suggest that 'dress watch' isn't a real category in the same way a dive or pilot watch is, but rather a marketing term.

Watch categories used to reflect categories of what a watch could be used for: a dive watch is at least 100m water resistant with (usually) a bezel and could be taken underwater by a diver; a pilot's watch is big and legible and is useful (apparently) when doing what a pilot did when pilots needed big watches; a chronograph, well, has a chronograph, and with a tachymeter can time race cars. With dive computers, digital timers etc. those previous tool categories are just vestige terms of the original purpose. To say something was a pilot watch doesn't mean one would look ridiculous wearing one if one wasn't a pilot, just that back in the day if you were a test pilot having a big watch was useful so you would go to the store and buy a pilot watch.

A 'dress' watch is just a catch-all term for a watch that looks more elegant than a standard tool watch and has no historical specific job function. It doesn't mean that if a guy is getting dressed up, he needs to go buy a dress watch like a pilot would buy a pilot watch for his job. To say that is to let a marketing category dictate reality. It's like saying a doctor shouldn't wear a Brooks Brothers regent fit suit because he is a doctor and not a regent.

Men have been wearing watches en masse since around the WWI/WWII, and by 1965 Rolex was being advertised as something a man could wear with a suit, so that's like 57 out of 80-100 years that wearing a tool watch with a suit has been a thing for men to do (and since dive watches as we know them today weren't around until the early 1950s, that's almost the entire life of dive watches). Some watch people and the occasional cranky fashion writer may complain about it, but it's as relevant as complaining about the d$#n kids listening rock -n- roll and waiting for it to go away and for things to get back to normal.

Not sure why I end up posting so much about this, it must be some kind of mental disorder I have (-:.
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Old 5 October 2017, 06:43 PM   #146
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Personally I'd prefer something with a bit more sparkle for dress. Likely a DJ, DD or their ilk.
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Old 6 October 2017, 01:25 AM   #147
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I wear it most of the time with casual or sport dressy.
But it's most versatile watch
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Old 6 October 2017, 11:26 PM   #148
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I have worn my sub with a suit but usually I'll wear either my datejust or explorer with a suit.
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Old 7 October 2017, 02:23 AM   #149
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Old 7 October 2017, 11:36 AM   #150
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I have worn my sub with a suit but usually I'll wear either my datejust or explorer with a suit.
I'm with you.
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