Edited - Timepiece Gentleman

[desmomini]

I can't wait to hear that they're rebranding as Gentlemen Timepiece Gentleman.

[ganiccus]

Originally Posted by chocopeluche

My vote is for CPG (Crimepiece Gentleman) :)

Almost as bad as their other grey dealer friends who hanged around in one of their videos, the fatso twins called the Wolves of Watch Street. I mean really? You are supposed to inspire confidence and trustworthiness to your client base, not make it look like you are gonna rip them off Jordan Belfort style.

[spikep]

Wow between reading this thread and reading the thread above this about a well known grey dealer (Bobs) selling supposed complete watches with a link removed (“fits up to 7.5 inch wrists”) only to re sell the removed link. I’m glad I’ve only, with one exception for BRLO, purchased from an AD (even on a couple used pieces). I for one will keep dealing only with an AD.

[bwakus23]

Originally Posted by spikep

Wow between reading this thread and reading the thread above this about a well known grey dealer (Bobs) selling supposed complete watches with a link removed (“fits up to 7.5 inch wrists”) only to re sell the removed link. I’m glad I’ve only, with one exception for BRLO, purchased from an AD (even on a couple used pieces). I for one will keep dealing only with an AD.

No kidding. I did one transaction via Chrono24 that turned out fabulous, and aside from that specific seller, I might be AD-only from here on out.


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[sparksgmt]

If the big announcement is a media deal, I cant see it going well. A recipe for disaster 1) anger most of your business colleagues and customers 2) announce a personal victory causing rampant jealousy. It could be a show about a dealer who no longer has access to inventory for filming.

[Etschell]

50 1 star reviews since this fiasco started. Not good.

[trout_thumper21]

This YouTube series opened my eyes to the sheer disarray of this business (tracking inventory on spreadsheets, etc.), a bunch of college-age kids parading inventory around to lunch, reckless spending, and many signs of cash flow issues (“hold that payment until this wire comes in”)…seeing guys in basketball shorts and hoodies come in to buy/sell/flip watches really cheapened the whole experience and I would go as far as to say has dmaged the allure of the Rolex brand. All of that is more than enough to ensure I’ll never be buying from or selling to these guys.

[sgwatchguy]

Originally Posted by trout_thumper21

… and I would go as far as to say has dmaged the allure of the Rolex brand…

Huh? So Rolex hired/invested in these guys? What am I missing here???

[trout_thumper21]

Originally Posted by sgwatchguy

Huh? So Rolex hired/invested in these guys? What am I missing here???

I’m saying Rolex always had this prestige in my opinion, something you work a long time to one day purchase. Seeing people come in to “flip” watches dressed like they played video games all night and then rolled out of bed really has damaged that prestige, at least to me. The Timepiece Gentlemen youtube really put that on blast for the world to see

[Fleetlord]

Originally Posted by trout_thumper21

I’m saying Rolex always had this prestige in my opinion, something you work a long time to one day purchase. Seeing people come in to “flip” watches dressed like they played video games all night and then rolled out of bed really has damaged that prestige, at least to me. The Timepiece Gentlemen youtube really put that on blast for the world to see

I had a feeling these "behind the scenes" videos would have that effect, even before the recent TPG shenanigans.

I posted a video of a dealer trader show a few months back and put a WARNING disclaimer that the watches will be handled and traded among individuals who are dressed like adolescents about to go skateboarding and that the watches will NOT be in glorious showcases and displayed in private rooms with perfectly chilled diet cokes.

If that environment is what is more comfortable, then BETHTEE is the one to watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJp9B7Wta4Y&t=6s

But the reality of the watch aftermarket is not any of that pomp and circumstance. The watches are commodities and are traded as quickly as possible. I can see how the contrast from the world that the AD portrays vs the market can be alarming..

I will say that I think less people were as concerned about the grey dealers looking the part back when they could get a Sub with stickers for 20% off retail...but now their is a big premium, the expectations are...different.

There are plenty of awesome grey dealers out there, so don't let the shenanigans of TPG and the BS of Bob's watches deter anyone from using that channel to acquire a watch...that is if you can do without the complementary Diet Coke...

[WatchEater666]

Originally Posted by trout_thumper21

This YouTube series opened my eyes to the sheer disarray of this business (tracking inventory on spreadsheets, etc.), a bunch of college-age kids parading inventory around to lunch, reckless spending, and many signs of cash flow issues (“hold that payment until this wire comes in”)…seeing guys in basketball shorts and hoodies come in to buy/sell/flip watches really cheapened the whole experience and I would go as far as to say has dmaged the allure of the Rolex brand. All of that is more than enough to ensure I’ll never be buying from or selling to these guys.

I know companies doing $50M+ tracking inventory on spreadsheets. Surprisingly effective if you know your VLOOKUP ;)

[sgwatchguy]

Originally Posted by Fleetlord

But the reality of the watch aftermarket is not any of that pomp and circumstance. The watches are commodities and are traded as quickly as possible. I can see how the contrast from the world that the AD portrays vs the market can be alarming..

well said.

All that these clowns have done is bring more audiences insight into how greys operate. All watches are commodities for them, they don’t discriminate between brands.

This is like losing your appetite seeing how that beautiful wagyu landed on your plate.

[dauster]

Originally Posted by Fleetlord

I had a feeling these "behind the scenes" videos would have that effect, even before the recent TPG shenanigans.

I posted a video of a dealer trader show a few months back and put a WARNING disclaimer that the watches will be handled and traded among individuals who are dressed like adolescents about to go skateboarding and that the watches will NOT be in glorious showcases and displayed in private rooms with perfectly chilled diet cokes.

If that environment is what is more comfortable, then BETHTEE is the one to watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJp9B7Wta4Y&t=6s

But the reality of the watch aftermarket is not any of that pomp and circumstance. The watches are commodities and are traded as quickly as possible. I can see how the contrast from the world that the AD portrays vs the market can be alarming..

I will say that I think less people were as concerned about the grey dealers looking the part back when they could get a Sub with stickers for 20% off retail...but now their is a big premium, the expectations are...different.

There are plenty of awesome grey dealers out there, so don't let the shenanigans of TPG and the BS of Bob's watches deter anyone from using that channel to acquire a watch...that is if you can do without the complementary Diet Coke...

I feel the same way. While some ADs are better than others I don’t feel exactly like I’m shopping in the PP Salon really anywhere in the States. It’s all very pedestrian…

[macrowatch]

Originally Posted by WatchEater666

I know companies doing $50M+ tracking inventory on spreadsheets. Surprisingly effective if you know your VLOOKUP ;)

Selling one piece of artwork for 50M can most def be tracked on a spreadsheet. Even I could manage that complexity. Ha.

[NickD1975]

Originally Posted by WatchEater666

I know companies doing $50M+ tracking inventory on spreadsheets. Surprisingly effective if you know your VLOOKUP ;)

True. Excel works better than most people think if you know how to use it. However, it usually comes with key man dependency, if the person who wrote the spreadsheet leaves then you can be a little bit screwed.

[Moondoggy]

Out of popcorn got nuts…….waiting.

[desmomini]

For everyone speculating about a deal with Netflix, etc, do note that the majority of television is a relatively low margin arena. High production budgets get eaten up quickly by the army of personnel on payroll. While the outliers get the attention (REAL HOUSEWIVES, etc) the vast majority of reality TV "stars" get little to nothing personally in compensation, and benefit from the notoriety in pushing their personal brands.

[rambo99]

12 hours until that big reveal, or there's actually no reveal at all.

[desmomini]

Originally Posted by rambo99

12 hours until that big reveal, or there's actually no reveal at all.

Or a reveal that there will be a reveal next week. "Just give me a few more days. I'm not stupid and I'm not a crook."

[EconTigerOrange]

I didn’t see Netflix picking up a series on a watch dealer, but maybe this is what TPG is angling for…




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[bob99]

Today's the day! The Timepiece (Crimepiece) Gentlemen are going to present everyone their SUPER BIG MEGA DELUXE LOL MILLENNIAL GOTCHA REVEAL!

Our minds are all going to be blown! After watching this vid, we'll all order 10 Daytonas each (with full stickers!) They will be rolling in the dough!

I've got my wire transfers ready!

[herts9]

I unsubbed their channel. I will check back here with beverage in hand to partake in the roasting though.

[Hollie_Rollie]

Originally Posted by Etschell

50 1 star reviews since this fiasco started. Not good.

Tanking their own business


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[V25V]

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[enjoythemusic]

Originally Posted by bob99

Today's the day! The Timepiece (Crimepiece) Gentlemen are going to present everyone their SUPER BIG MEGA DELUXE LOL MILLENNIAL GOTCHA REVEAL!

OMG OMG OMG this is soooo exciting!!!

[eddiemonster]

Perhaps some deep thoughts or not so deep, but I feel that TPG is just exactly a product of two things- his surroundings and accomplishments (or lack of).

I've only watched a couple episodes before losing interest, but from what I gather, he is from "the Land of keeping up with the (Jerry) Jones' " i.e. DFW, Texas. Nothing against Texans, I was married to a smart, gorgeous firecracker from Plano and even she always used the phrase $30K millionaires. While DFW does indeed have a disproportionately high number of millionaires per capita with many corporate HQ's based there (cheap real estate/ cost of living) there are so many living beyond their means with the illusion of wealth being on plastic (credit) or beauty made of plastic (silicone), HAHA! It's no wonder that Nieman Marcus was founded there and it thrives!

Secondly, his narcissistic behavior is exactly what I would expect from someone whose highest level of education is high school, highest level of formal work is bartending in nightclubs and has spent time in prison for behaving badly (all of this he divulged in two episodes, LOL!) Nothing wrong with the first two (I am in the hospitality industry) and some have even overcome the latter to find success. Unfortunately, for others the set of circumstances is too much to handle and they lash out akin to 'roid rage! He is that stereotype of insecurity, with a chip on his shoulder of his inadequacies; that he tries to compensate with superficial and material "one upmanship".

As for his gym attire, I feel it's an attempt of deliberate artificial juxtaposition of his pseudo lavish lifestyle with an offset affect i.e. "look at me, I wear a watch worth more than your car, but I'm really a humble, down-to-earth guy that shops at Old Navy" LOL! The astute people can see thru this act...

[goodolejr]

Originally Posted by eddiemonster

Perhaps some deep thoughts or not so deep, but I feel that TPG is just exactly a product of two things- his surroundings and accomplishments (or lack of).

I've only watched a couple episodes before losing interest, but from what I gather, he is from "the Land of keeping up with the (Jerry) Jones' " i.e. DFW, Texas. Nothing against Texans, I was married to one and even she always used the phrase $30K millionaires. While DFW does indeed have a disproportionately high number of millionaires per capita with many corporate HQ's based there (cheap real estate/ cost of living) there are so many living beyond their means with the illusion of wealth being on plastic (credit) or beauty made of plastic (silicone), HAHA!

Secondly, his narcissistic behavior is exactly what I would expect from someone whose highest level of education is high school, highest level of formal work is bartending in nightclubs and has spent time in prison from behaving badly (all of this he divulged in two episodes, LOL!) He is that stereotype of insecurity from a chip on his shoulder of his inadequacies; that he tries to compensate with superficial and material "one upmanship".

One of the most the succinct, salient posts in this 1500+ thread. Well said.

[edslee327]

Originally Posted by eddiemonster

Perhaps some deep thoughts or not so deep, but I feel that TPG is just exactly a product of two things- his surroundings and accomplishments (or lack of).

I've only watched a couple episodes before losing interest, but from what I gather, he is from "the Land of keeping up with the (Jerry) Jones' " i.e. DFW, Texas. Nothing against Texans, I was married to one and even she always used the phrase $30K millionaires. While DFW does indeed have a disproportionately high number of millionaires per capita with many corporate HQ's based there (cheap real estate/ cost of living) there are so many living beyond their means with the illusion of wealth being on plastic (credit) or beauty made of plastic (silicone), HAHA!

Secondly, his narcissistic behavior is exactly what I would expect from someone whose highest level of education is high school, highest level of formal work is bartending in nightclubs and has spent time in prison from behaving badly (all of this he divulged in two episodes, LOL!) He is that stereotype of insecurity from a chip on his shoulder of his inadequacies; that he tries to compensate with superficial and material "one upmanship".

not in defense of the guy or anyone else, nor to get too off topic, but how much is too much? what or who defines how much to spend on particular materials or experiences? i've always asked myself, what's a good cap in % of total net worth to allocate towards something like watches to remain somewhat financially responsible, while still having the room to explore your passions?...

[Nick9]

In spite of Anthony’s babbling now and then about a media deal, Netflix series and whatever else, I haven’t seen anything that would suggest a sustainable production.

Many posters have commented about how boring and repetitive his videos have become. Same watches, same hype, same “negotiations”. No plot; no conflict. Only one moderately interesting personality.

Hard to imagine that any legitimate media executive or production company would bet on it. On the other hand, plenty of idiots in show biz.

[Shazbot302]

Originally Posted by eddiemonster

Perhaps some deep thoughts or not so deep, but I feel that TPG is just exactly a product of two things- his surroundings and accomplishments (or lack of).

I've only watched a couple episodes before losing interest, but from what I gather, he is from "the Land of keeping up with the (Jerry) Jones' " i.e. DFW, Texas. Nothing against Texans, I was married to one and even she always used the phrase $30K millionaires. While DFW does indeed have a disproportionately high number of millionaires per capita with many corporate HQ's based there (cheap real estate/ cost of living) there are so many living beyond their means with the illusion of wealth being on plastic (credit) or beauty made of plastic (silicone), HAHA!

Secondly, his narcissistic behavior is exactly what I would expect from someone whose highest level of education is high school, highest level of formal work is bartending in nightclubs and has spent time in prison from behaving badly (all of this he divulged in two episodes, LOL!) He is that stereotype of insecurity from a chip on his shoulder of his inadequacies; that he tries to compensate with superficial and material "one upmanship".

So true it hurts.