The 3235 Movement and The Fix (3 years out)

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by omar-rye

So what is the problem with this calibre?

Please PLEASE don’t start this from the beginning

[Kevin of Larchmont]

Originally Posted by Jack T

I don’t agree. Why buy a product with a known (probable) design flaw, only to discount the price for the cost of servicing said flaw? The hassle of sending to a RSC, weeks or months out of hand, and even then, not a sure fix.

Rolex built its reputation on tank like build quality and set it and forget it reliability. Many people’s confidence has been undermined, you can’t blame them.

Maybe the problem is being dealt with, and close to a solution, if the reduction in warranty repairs is accurate, but it’s still a shot in the dark when buying preowned from a private seller. No thanks.

Fair enough but you realize you aren’t disagreeing with me, right? You are disagreeing with the gentleman in post #136. He’s the guy who made the 32XX risk/benefit analysis which lead him to meet the seller at the watchmaker to have the watch tested and had the watch tested favorably he would’ve bought it knowing the risk with a 32XX movement. My point is entirely about leverage, not about the movement. Since he already decided to buy the watch pending positive results the pivot play here is to offset the cost of the service in his offer so he ends up with the watch he already intended to buy at the price he already intended to pay but with a fresh RSC service and two years of RSC warranty, a net win. That’s my point.

[East of Eden]

Originally Posted by Jack T

I don’t agree. Why buy a product with a known (probable) design flaw, only to discount the price for the cost of servicing said flaw? The hassle of sending to a RSC, weeks or months out of hand, and even then, not a sure fix.

Rolex built its reputation on tank like build quality and set it and forget it reliability. Many people’s confidence has been undermined, you can’t blame them.

Maybe the problem is being dealt with, and close to a solution, if the reduction in warranty repairs is accurate, but it’s still a shot in the dark when buying preowned from a private seller. No thanks.

And what happens when it slows down again when it’s out of warranty?

[Kevin of Larchmont]

Originally Posted by East of Eden

And what happens when it slows down again when it’s out of warranty?

If, not when.

Then he had two years of owning the watch that he wanted and he moves on, as we do from time to time, much like the ongoing current thread where people buy watches they don’t necessarily intend to keep but rather for the experience of owning them.

[East of Eden]

Originally Posted by Kevin of Larchmont

If, not when.

Then he had two years of owning the watch that he wanted and he moves on, as we do from time to time, much like the ongoing current thread where people buy watches they don’t necessarily intend to keep but rather for the experience of owning them.

Wait, your answer is you might sell it so it won’t be a problem? What about the guy who buys it?

[Kevin of Larchmont]

Originally Posted by East of Eden

Wait, your answer is you might sell it so it won’t be a problem? What about the guy who buys it?

We aren’t talking about me, we are talking about the guy who met the seller at the watchmaker to test the watch and who was planning to buy the watch if it had favorable regulation results. I’m consistently talking about leverage here, careful reading confirms that I am not the buyer. I’m not making a case for the troubled 32XX movement and I’m not going to be drawn into an argument about it, there are plenty of those already and nobody needs another. I’m making a case for leveraging the circumstances this particular buyer found himself in to buy a watch that he already established that he wanted.

[Dirt]

Originally Posted by East of Eden

Wait, your answer is you might sell it so it won’t be a problem? What about the guy who buys it?

I never looked at it from that perspective

I suppose it's entirely up to the buyer to do their due diligence as is always the case and if they're across the full spectrum of the situation and making a fully informed decision, then good on them
As people say, it's just a watch. Not a house, nor should it be an investment decision and if the Mothership is finally able to gain traction on the problem then it's all good regardless.
It's basically the buyers problem.

[Napalm]

My Q1 2018 purchased DJ41 experienced this issue a couple of years into ownership, and I had it serviced under warranty (i think around Q2 or Q3 2020). It's been running great since.

I also have a DJ41 that was purchased in Q3 2021 and its starting to run really slow. I've noticed it for a few months but I rarely wear this DJ41 so it could've been a problem for much longer. Dropped it off for service last week.

[colonelpurple]

Originally Posted by Kevin of Larchmont

If, not when.

Then he had two years of owning the watch that he wanted and he moves on, as we do from time to time, much like the ongoing current thread where people buy watches they don’t necessarily intend to keep but rather for the experience of owning them.

Like the Tudor GMT issue, it seems that Rolex has fixed it quietly in new watches. So some watches made before a certain date might exhibit the problem but they might not.

I suspect that Rolex will always correct this fault free of charge. It’s a reputation thing and my brief fliers with Rolex service have been very positive .

[Eric88]

Here's a few thoughts from my experience with my 126610LN that is nearly two years old. I've always noticed with any prior Rolex watches I've owned, some new, some vintage that the watches have trended towards running a tiny bit fast (well within COSC) and this has been my measuring stick. I've been comfortable with a watch that gains a bit of time, as it makes me early or closer to on time vs. a watch that runs slow.

The first 6 months or so with my 126610 had me noticing that it was losing time and this was weird for me. I don't know if that's just part of how these watches go...it wasn't outside of COSC expectations, yet if I didn't adjust it for a month or two, I'd suddenly be looking at a few minutes slow overall.

I debated about getting it checked at the AD or RSC and never had time to mess with that.

Fast forward to the last 6-12 months and my 126610 is running similar to my other Rolex watches - it runs slightly fast, maybe .5 seconds per day. I haven't touched it since November 30 to December 1 to adjust the date. That's about 90 days and I'm looking at .3 seconds fast as of right now. I will obviously adjust it tomorrow between February 29 to March 1.

I'm pretty happy to see that my 32xx movement has shown signs of "improvement" from my perspective, the longer I've owned it.

[Sir Scuba]

Hello all, first time posting on one of these threads. I’ve been reading about the 32XX movement issue on every thread I can find and am hopeful my 126610LN does not develop it. I’ve only owned my watch for a couple of weeks (since February 10), and in my limited experience, my watch gains about 2-3 seconds per day when left face up and gains about 0.5 seconds per day when on my wrist or in a winder. I’ll be happy to report back in a few months to see if I notice any changes along with testing on a timegrapher I hope to get soon. One thing I’ve noticed is that a lot of people whose watch develops the issue initially lost about 0.5 - 1 second per day instead of gaining, so I’m hopeful Rolex has fixed the issue, but as the old cliché goes: only time will tell.

[Easy E]

Originally Posted by Sir Scuba

Hello all, first time posting on one of these threads. I’ve been reading about the 32XX movement issue on every thread I can find and am hopeful my 126610LN does not develop it. I’ve only owned my watch for a couple of weeks (since February 10), and in my limited experience, my watch gains about 2-3 seconds per day when left face up and gains about 0.5 seconds per day when on my wrist or in a winder. I’ll be happy to report back in a few months to see if I notice any changes along with testing on a timegrapher I hope to get soon. One thing I’ve noticed is that a lot of people whose watch develops the issue initially lost about 0.5 - 1 second per day instead of gaining, so I’m hopeful Rolex has fixed the issue, but as the old cliché goes: only time will tell.

You can get a Weishi 1900, pretty basic unit for just over $200 on Amazon. I know that topic gets some to rattle their sabres, but I have learned a great deal about how my watches work by playing with it. Possibly a touch on the odd side, but I also find playing with my machine a little therapeutic, YMMV. Good luck.

https://www.amazon.com/Multifunction...ps%2C84&sr=8-6

[Sir Scuba]

Thank you, Easy_E, that is actually the exact one I’m hoping to get. Once I can mess around with one, I’ll post my findings here if they are worth sharing. Cheers🍻