H. Moser & Cie - general thoughts

[mps354]

i really like it, even the date placement. the date, power reserve, and crown are all aligned. i didn't warm to the streamliner center seconds immediately, and now own and love it

[snarkq]

Hodinkee took terrible photos of this watch but otherwise looks like a stunner


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[dchang81]

Originally Posted by snarkq

Hodinkee took terrible photos of this watch but otherwise looks like a stunner


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man haven't really been on hodinkee much but nice to see most of the releases on one site. reading the comment section there is pretty painful not just for this but for anything. not sure there's a watch that will satisfy any of them.

[Starwalker]

Originally Posted by snarkq

Hodinkee took terrible photos of this watch but otherwise looks like a stunner


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Stopped reading Hodinkee ages ago, all their content feels overtly sponsored. It's like they charge $25,000 a paragraph. Once in a while, they will write up a paragraph about some new release to legitimize their crap content. And the comments section read like youtube comments.

[mongrelnomoad]

I really like the dial. Don’t like the date or the implementation of the perpetual calendar (I want to be able to read it at a glance which I can’t here) or the size. Solid release though, and a good evolution of the line, though I still think the centre seconds is the way to go.

How lovely would that be with a slate grey dial like this?

[pp3355]

I just wish the centre seconds had a date

[GreenLantern]

Originally Posted by pp3355

I just wish the centre seconds had a date

[Severund]

Not trying to hijack but if anyone can source me a pre-owned or discounted pin buckle I would greatly appreciate it?!

[fwoomp]

I've been reading through this thread and noticing that not too many people have been showing the Endeavour PC. That model has been really appealing to me recently and they seem to be very hard to find now that Moser is focusing more on the Streamliner, but I've managed to track down a couple of them. The main thing I'm going back and forth on is the dial layout-- the minimalist concept dial vs. the more traditional dial with full indexes and small seconds.

I really like the uniqueness of the minimalist dial because I feel like it's more signature Moser and goes along well with the idea of a very understated PC presentation, plus the fume dials are so great that the more I can see of it, the better. On the other hand, it does seem a lot less practical. It seems like it would take a bit more effort to determine the minute, and I do occasionally use the seconds hand. The up/down indicator also seems nearly impossible to read reliably without markings (although with a 7+ day power reserve it may not really matter, I guess).

I'd be curious to hear from folks who have either one how they like it for day-to-day wear, especially for the concept layout. Fortunately it seems like one of those cases where you can't go wrong either way, though.

[shafran]

I traded into the pioneer pc and really like it. Great take on a perpetual, supposedly they are becoming harder to find.

[Yobrooks]

Any thought on the very rare limited edition (#50 pieces) Bronze Heritage "Since 1812" with Cyrillic letters that was just announced at Dubai week? I really like the dial, bezel and both black and grey straps. I think it's a great Limited Edition Heritage to add to the line up.. I Doubt we will see another Bronze Moser for quite some time.

[swaini3]

Originally Posted by Yobrooks

Any thought on the very rare limited edition (#50 pieces) Bronze Heritage "Since 1812" with Cyrillic letters that was just announced at Dubai week? I really like the dial, bezel and both black and grey straps. I think it's a great Limited Edition Heritage to add to the line up.. I Doubt we will see another Bronze Moser for quite some time.

I like it. The burgundy dual time is nicer IMO. They both look like Zenith Pilots though.

[Yobrooks]

Originally Posted by swaini3

I like it. The burgundy dual time is nicer IMO. They both look like Zenith Pilots though.

I think the fit and finish is night and day compared to the Zenith. Obviously, Pilot watches do have that similar look but it's all about the subtle differences imo. The smokey grey fume dial is gorgeous, the hands, the lume and that grainy bronze case is a beauty. I'll go for it if I get the opportunity. Would be my first moser.

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[tigerpac]

Rebooting the thread ---

What does everyone think of the Streamliner Small Seconds Blue Enamel?

I think they did a great job with an amazing artisanal dial and slimmed down proportions.

[ChetBaker]

I love the Streamliner line and own the chrono with blue dial. Before I purchased it I was going back and forth between the Streamliner, an Overseas or a 15450. In the end I went with the Moser, as the Overseas wears a little big on my 17cm wrist and the RO has become so ubiquitous it felt like the lazy choice. I have not seen the new blue in person, but from pics it looks great and it has a much nicer movement than the Green Dragon.

[enjoythemusic]

Big thumbs up here for the Streamliner.

[Chrasmus]

Originally Posted by tigerpac

Rebooting the thread ---

What does everyone think of the Streamliner Small Seconds Blue Enamel?

I think they did a great job with an amazing artisanal dial and slimmed down proportions.

I absolutely love the new movement, but prefer the looks of the Smoked Salmon and Green Dragon Dials. Something about the small seconds makes the new dial less appealing to me.

[991C4S]

I have an Endeavour. Its a little large for a dress piece. At 40.8mm (all dial and plain), it wears big. Oddly enough, looks larger than my 43mm LUC Quattro.

I'd like to size down and trade for a RG Mayu with chocolate dial.

Nonetheless, I highly recommend the brand. They have a great range.

[usmc_k9_vet]

Guesses as to what will be released (if anything) next month at W&W? I think we will see more options in the Pioneer lineup in both 42.8mm and 40mm.


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[salnuaimi]

Originally Posted by usmc_k9_vet

Guesses as to what will be released (if anything) next month at W&W? I think we will see more options in the Pioneer lineup in both 42.8mm and 40mm.


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I think new streamliner green

[salnuaimi]

Originally Posted by Chrasmus

I absolutely love the new movement, but prefer the looks of the Smoked Salmon and Green Dragon Dials. Something about the small seconds makes the new dial less appealing to me.

Me too dont like the small second

[usmc_k9_vet]

Originally Posted by salnuaimi

I think new streamliner green

They already did a Streamliner in green. Are you thinking a green dial Streamliner with a different complication?


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[salnuaimi]

Originally Posted by usmc_k9_vet

They already did a Streamliner in green. Are you thinking a green dial Streamliner with a different complication?


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The gonna make it this time with hidden logo . dont know if they gonna use the new movement though.. but green is 100%

[usmc_k9_vet]

Originally Posted by salnuaimi

The gonna make it this time with hidden logo . dont know if they gonna use the new movement though.. but green is 100%

Are you saying you know this and have heard it somewhere? Seems strange to me that they would re-release the green dial Streamliner Centre Seconds with those minor tweaks.


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[FrugalGreubel]

Originally Posted by usmc_k9_vet

Are you saying you know this and have heard it somewhere? Seems strange to me that they would re-release the green dial Streamliner Centre Seconds with those minor tweaks.


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I stopped by Watches of Switzerland a few days ago and I was told they were doing another Green dial Streamliner as well.

[usmc_k9_vet]

Originally Posted by FrugalGreubel

I stopped by Watches of Switzerland a few days ago and I was told they were doing another Green dial Streamliner as well.

Very interesting. Will be excited to see it. Just seems a bit strange.


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[FrugalGreubel]

Originally Posted by usmc_k9_vet

Very interesting. Will be excited to see it. Just seems a bit strange.


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Yea I thought it was odd too. But who knows how or why these decisions are made.

[salnuaimi]

Lets not forget they stopped the funky blue chrono . refinished the movement and removed the logo and then released it again !

also the salmon apparently its the transition color between models officially ..

nothing makes sense at this moment for me too .

[salnuaimi]

Originally Posted by FrugalGreubel

I stopped by Watches of Switzerland a few days ago and I was told they were doing another Green dial Streamliner as well.

Same info I got from the brothers

[dchang81]

Definitely not specific to Moser but isn't that the play? Discontinue something to drive fomo then come out with a similar variation later?