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Old 13 June 2015, 12:58 AM   #151
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Old 13 June 2015, 01:02 AM   #152
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Sorry to say the panerai is also fake
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Old 13 June 2015, 01:03 AM   #153
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hahaha, what a clown!
That laser gengraving is soooo wrong and if you wear it a bit longer like that, you'll lose your "unique" crap
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Old 13 June 2015, 01:06 AM   #154
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I suspect the OP was duped, too. I don't think a counterfeiter would use a forum to try to "improve" his fakes. I also don't think one would stick around and take the abuse once detected.

I also think posts about fakes are educational. I would not tolerate a post trying to sell a fake, but discussions about what marks a counterfeit as a fake are useful, I think.
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Old 13 June 2015, 01:07 AM   #155
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I suspect the OP was duped, too. I don't think a counterfeiter would use a forum to try to "improve" his fakes. I also don't think one would stick around and take the abuse once detected.

I also think posts about fakes are educational. I would tolerate a post trying to sell a fake, but discussions about what marks a counterfeit as a fake are useful, I think.
There's a section on the forum for that, called Watch Out!
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Old 13 June 2015, 01:14 AM   #156
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I suspect the OP was duped, too. I don't think a counterfeiter would use a forum to try to "improve" his fakes. I also don't think one would stick around and take the abuse once detected.

I also think posts about fakes are educational. I would not tolerate a post trying to sell a fake, but discussions about what marks a counterfeit as a fake are useful, I think.
Exactly.

Not sure why people think counterfeiters in this age need to go on the internet to "test" their fakes. There are a million ways to compare a real Rolex to a fake and someone really doesn't need to post on a forum and get abused to find those differences. I'm sure the people making fake watches can get the real thing. What they can't get are the precision machines required to make a real Rolex. That's why the details are always wrong.

I would feel bad for the guy, but I'm also starting to think that the guy got scammed. Hopefully he didn't pay too much. Judging by his profile, he seems like a young guy who doesn't really know what he is doing when it comes to this stuff.

Still a great thread though. The things lost in translation have been amusing.
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Old 13 June 2015, 01:30 AM   #157
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Exactly.

Not sure why people think counterfeiters in this age need to go on the internet to "test" their fakes. There are a million ways to compare a real Rolex to a fake and someone really doesn't need to post on a forum and get abused to find those differences. I'm sure the people making fake watches can get the real thing. What they can't get are the precision machines required to make a real Rolex. That's why the details are always wrong.

I would feel bad for the guy, but I'm also starting to think that the guy got scammed. Hopefully he didn't pay too much. Judging by his profile, he seems like a young guy who doesn't really know what he is doing when it comes to this stuff.

Still a great thread though. The things lost in translation have been amusing.
Agreed. All these people are yamming about closing the thread are uptight. This is relevant, interesting stuff and you can't make it go away just by closing your eyes or asking the moderator to close the thread!!
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Old 13 June 2015, 01:35 AM   #158
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I suspect the OP was duped, too. I don't think a counterfeiter would use a forum to try to "improve" his fakes. I also don't think one would stick around and take the abuse once detected.

I also think posts about fakes are educational. I would not tolerate a post trying to sell a fake, but discussions about what marks a counterfeit as a fake are useful, I think.
Agree. Knowing what to look out for is very helpful especially buying pre-owned.
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Old 13 June 2015, 01:37 AM   #159
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The OP may very well have gotten scammed, but if he did, by now there should be a post relaying what happened when he took the watch back to the "AD" he bought it from. The fact that there isn't makes me doubt that he got scammed is a possibility. If it were my $7,000 (give or take) on the line, you can bet I'd have dropped everything and gotten to the bottom of it.
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Old 13 June 2015, 01:37 AM   #160
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There's a section on the forum for that, called Watch Out!
I had not seen this. Thanks
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Old 13 June 2015, 01:44 AM   #161
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Thank you so much guys! I am sure that so many people can not be wrong! Watches necessarily shall open and tell what was inside. again, thank you all!
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Old 13 June 2015, 01:45 AM   #162
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I logged on this morning shocked this thread is still open...
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Old 13 June 2015, 01:51 AM   #163
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Timir22-someday if you save and work real hard you can get a real one!! LOL
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Old 13 June 2015, 02:04 AM   #164
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Old 13 June 2015, 02:11 AM   #165
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Old 13 June 2015, 02:17 AM   #166
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Old 13 June 2015, 02:58 AM   #167
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Yes. And the only reason I posted is because it's disgusting how you people are making fun of a person who just can't speak Merican well enough. And who was so happy just yesterday and now is facing the harsh reality of having paid about $5K cash for what is 99% fake, a franken at best. What a difference a day makes.
Does he have 2 accounts or just a friend?

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He can't be, that's the worst pearl I've ever seen, much better ones on $10 street market fakes, if anyone was to believe this was real they frankly deserve to be parted from their money.

I think the OP has bought this and paid full price and is now bricking it.
He lied about buying from a official dealer.. he lies about several stuff. He didn't get scammed. He is a wannabe posing here.
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Old 13 June 2015, 03:10 AM   #168
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Sorry to say the panerai is also fake
Looks like a gen Pam 098 to me....
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Old 13 June 2015, 03:14 AM   #169
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If he's naive or on a fishing expedition is still a mystery, but in a world full of fake watches if you think your Rolex is 'unique' it means you're in trouble.
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Old 13 June 2015, 03:15 AM   #170
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Does he have 2 accounts or just a friend?



He lied about buying from a official dealer.. he lies about several stuff. He didn't get scammed. He is a wannabe posing here.


We look after our own, Starsky. Pay attention, I'm educating you. He didn't say it was HE who bought it from the AD. It was what he was told and what the paperwork said.

And don't judge people by yourself. People don't normally seek to impress foreigners they can't even communicate with properly with questions about why their Rolex issue suspiciously different from the rest
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Old 13 June 2015, 03:33 AM   #171
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If he's naive or on a fishing expedition is still a mystery, but in a world full of fake watches if you think your Rolex is 'unique' it means you're in trouble.
its both.

the op's story doesn't seem consistent on the russian forum either. where bought, price paid, dates...?

the most important post on that site finally put 2&2 together when the low price the op seems to have paid likely proves its a fake. therefore, an "autopsy" (that word is used a lot there. think it means open the caseback) is not required.

its overall an interesting read but, there's no doubt we should be proud of our forum members and mods. this is the best watch forum!
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Old 13 June 2015, 03:41 AM   #172
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Agreed. All these people are yamming about closing the thread are uptight. This is relevant, interesting stuff and you can't make it go away just by closing your eyes or asking the moderator to close the thread!!
Except that it is a clear violation of forum rules

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Old 13 June 2015, 03:42 AM   #173
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its both.

the op's story doesn't seem consistent on the russian forum either. where bought, price paid, dates...?

the most important post on that site finally put 2&2 together when the low price the op seems to have paid likely proves its a fake. therefore, an "autopsy" (that word is used a lot there. think it means open the caseback) is not required.

its overall an interesting read but, there's no doubt we should be proud of our forum members and mods. this is the best watch forum!

He should do the "autopsy" anyways just to get it over with...
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Old 13 June 2015, 04:00 AM   #174
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Old 13 June 2015, 04:06 AM   #175
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Old 13 June 2015, 05:18 AM   #176
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Old 13 June 2015, 05:49 AM   #177
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Old 13 June 2015, 06:11 AM   #178
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Old 13 June 2015, 07:33 AM   #179
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I see people posting "ibtl" what does that stand for?
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Old 13 June 2015, 08:05 AM   #180
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