Are all F series 16610lv's Flat Four's?

[Zed82]

Originally Posted by dcash0615

I think I remember a thread where someone had a D serial LV with a flat 4, Mark III dial and oval O.

There are D-serials available with flat four inserts. I have seen two myself and this is also indicated in the reference guide to 16610LV that’s often linked here.

[springer]

Originally Posted by Zed82

There are D-serials available with flat four inserts. I have seen two myself and this is also indicated in the reference guide to 16610LV that’s often linked here.

The Y and early F serials had the attributes for the first generation anniversary 16610LVs. Now that they are the most valuable, we see claims the D serials had the same attributes? You might have seen a D serial with a flat four but did it have the correct dial? I don't have to tell you that it has been 14 years since these watches were released and anything could have been changed on them to enhance the value. I have never heard of a D serial-numbered having the correct dial and insert as the early anniversary watches. It would be a "red flag" to most collectors I'm sure.

[rootbeer7]

Originally Posted by springer

The Y and early F serials had the attributes for the first generation anniversary 16610LVs. Now that they are the most valuable, we see claims the D serials had the same attributes? You might have seen a D serial with a flat four but did it have the correct dial? I don't have to tell you that it has been 14 years since these watches were released and anything could have been changed on them to enhance the value. I have never heard of a D serial-numbered having the correct dial and insert as the early anniversary watches. It would be a "red flag" to most collectors I'm sure.

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[Duey]

Originally Posted by springer

The Y and early F serials had the attributes for the first generation anniversary 16610LVs. Now that they are the most valuable, we see claims the D serials had the same attributes? You might have seen a D serial with a flat four but did it have the correct dial? I don't have to tell you that it has been 14 years since these watches were released and anything could have been changed on them to enhance the value. I have never heard of a D serial-numbered having the correct dial and insert as the early anniversary watches. It would be a "red flag" to most collectors I'm sure.

Major Red Flag -

Also the LV's were not available until after the 3rd week of Nov 2003 - So if you find one dated September 2003, like it says in the little chart, that's another Red Flag -

Here's the Rolex USA letter dated November 14 2003 (that was a Friday too). So they can't be dated before then (earliest I've seen is 11/21/2003) ...

[Zed82]

Originally Posted by springer

The Y and early F serials had the attributes for the first generation anniversary 16610LVs. Now that they are the most valuable, we see claims the D serials had the same attributes? You might have seen a D serial with a flat four but did it have the correct dial? I don't have to tell you that it has been 14 years since these watches were released and anything could have been changed on them to enhance the value. I have never heard of a D serial-numbered having the correct dial and insert as the early anniversary watches. It would be a "red flag" to most collectors I'm sure.

This was my understanding as well until I saw an original D-series from the first owner with a fat four insert. Add to that the information in the reference guide that there are D-serials with fat four inserts and that I saw one more D-serial 16610LV with fat four after that. Who knows, maybe Rolex found a batch of old inserts and decided to use them up. Rolex have done so before.