Anyone know more to this F.P.Journe story?

[vliberman]

Why is there 2 pages thread about nothing???? Once there is something, let’s discuss… otherwise, there is NOTHING…

[RTG]

Originally Posted by vliberman

Why is there 2 pages thread about nothing???? Once there is something, let’s discuss… otherwise, there is NOTHING…

We were all going to let it go but you just made it 3 pages. Now this is serious

[enjoythemusic]

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[Jmaster]

Originally Posted by vliberman

Why is there 2 pages thread about nothing???? Once there is something, let’s discuss… otherwise, there is NOTHING…

Originally Posted by RTG

We were all going to let it go but you just made it 3 pages. Now this is serious

We are here at a watch forum contributing to nothingness if you ask 99% of the world’s population anyway…

[ILoveFerrari]

Originally Posted by WatchEater666

There’s nothing concrete. I am friends with a few FPJ collectors that have attending events with FPJ and nobody has said anything bad about him.

I don’t think it’s fair to accuse someone of being racist as per comments above based on some clickbait YouTuber scumbags….

+1000

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[ILoveFerrari]

Originally Posted by rcwatchcollector

Meh. Who cares about FPJ. He will be bankrupt in 10 years.


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what are your basis?

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[ILoveFerrari]

Originally Posted by Ichiran

I have dinner with FP for dinner 3 times over the past 2 years. He is not so comfortable conversing in English but I don't find him rude in any way. I can't imagine people leaving halfway during a dinner with him based on my own experience. After all, he is selling his watches to us collectors.

finally, someone said exactly what I wanted to say. Journe is a watch maker making watches for us. I am anti woke, anti snowflake, and do not care if Journe is an ass or not. Why, because he is not my son in law. I don't care if he likes to mate with animal closed door. I am not here to judge his moral character. That is the job of his parents, lover(s), families and close friends. For those who are on high moral grounds or horses, feel free to punish him by not buying his watches. I would love to see that so that I can have more allocations. Hehhe.

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[thesingularity7]

Originally Posted by ILoveFerrari

I don't care if he likes to mate with animal closed door. I am not here to judge his moral character.

I can't wait for the next Reddit thread to claim this is what happened at that dinner, and then a few more TRF threads confirming this as fact

[llngoc]

Originally Posted by thesingularity7

I can't wait for the next Reddit thread to claim this is what happened at that dinner, and then a few more TRF threads confirming this as fact

Power of Internet

Spreading of regurgitated hearsay without responsibility is indeed very powerful

[DGB]

Lot of nonsense, just amplifying a rumour.
I met FP in Paris in the boutique, he seemed absolutely charming.
The moment he sees you a watch enthusiast, he could talk hours with you.
Yes he prefer talking in French rather than English so what?
Ultimately he makes beautiful watches, that’s the most relevant.


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[dauster]

Originally Posted by ILoveFerrari

what are your basis?

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Because he will drink all the fine burgundy in his own restaurant ;)


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[John Doyle]

Originally Posted by DGB

Lot of nonsense, just amplifying a rumour.
I met FP in Paris in the boutique, he seemed absolutely charming.
The moment he sees you a watch enthusiast, he could talk hours with you.
Yes he prefer talking in French rather than English so what?
Ultimately he makes beautiful watches, that’s the most relevant.


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That's the thing - he doesn't.

[DGB]

Originally Posted by John Doyle

That's the thing - he doesn't.

Interesting, why would you say that?


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[John Doyle]

Originally Posted by DGB

Interesting, why would you say that?


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Just my personal opinion / taste, he has a unique style that definitely makes his watches recognizable as to me they more or less all look the same dial wise albeit with a twist, but I happen to not like this style at all...

[rolexandlange]

Originally Posted by ILoveFerrari

I don't care if he likes to mate with animal closed door. I am not here to judge his moral character.
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If I learn my watchmaker molests border collies I'm finding a new watchmaker. To each his own, I prefer Lange anyway

[ChetBaker]

It’s not just border collies unfortunately. There’s talk of horses too.

[enjoythemusic]

Interesting, there's a heck of a lot of FPJ for sale online. Some have far more inventory than I've seen previously. How many watches does FPJ claim to make a year?

[EEpro]

Originally Posted by enjoythemusic

Interesting, there's a heck of a lot of FPJ for sale online. Some have far more inventory than I've seen previously. How many watches does FPJ claim to make a year?

I've heard 900

[dchang81]

Originally Posted by EEpro

I've heard 900

From my visits to the boutique that was what I was quoted a few years ago, but they don't include elegante in that number

[codecow]

The fat guy Federico has a video on this now, didn’t watch it yet.

[FrugalGreubel]

Originally Posted by codecow

The fat guy Federico has a video on this now, didn’t watch it yet.

I’ll save you the click.

Quick Breakdown:

- half the video is him shitting on RM.

- mentioned Journe’s personality bothering some people but not him personally

- he referenced that alleged incident at the collectors dinner. You know the one that every YouTuber has talked about but none were actually there?

- hinted at some shady practices at the sales and executive level (not Journe himself). Such as giving money under the table to get a watch faster and paying a full deposit but being made to wait years.

- Journe supposedly blacklisting people who sell their watches

- says the brand needs to be more friendly and less snobby or they might lost customers

- prices have come down significantly

- you can get pieces faster than you used to

[codecow]

Thanks. Hard to watch that guy.

[Ichiran]

Federico is a dealer but he started off his video on FP Journe by saying Journe watches are artisanal and handmade

[John Doyle]

Originally Posted by FrugalGreubel

I’ll save you the click.

Quick Breakdown:

- half the video is him shitting on RM.

- mentioned Journe’s personality bothering some people but not him personally

- he referenced that alleged incident at the collectors dinner. You know the one that every YouTuber has talked about but none were actually there?

- hinted at some shady practices at the sales and executive level (not Journe himself). Such as giving money under the table to get a watch faster and paying a full deposit but being made to wait years.

- Journe supposedly blacklisting people who sell their watches

- says the brand needs to be more friendly and less snobby or they might lost customers

- prices have come down significantly

- you can get pieces faster than you used to

Quite accurate indeed

[GB-man]

I can tell you my opinion if you’re seeing more dealers with FPJ in stock it’s because post covid a lot of dealers observed that the market for Journe was much more stable than a lot of the stuff they were stocking from 2018-2022 (Patek,AP,RM) so they are more comfortable taking it in on trade. Classic flight to safety. There’s a higher floor with FPJ and the collector base is more dedicated than the people who were buying hype Patek/AP/RM.

[enjoythemusic]

Thx GB Man, interesting.

[jessiethe3rd]

Waiting on my second piece, Chronometre Optimum… the pace of waiting for this watch is measured in years. Not in woke canceled dinners.

[WatchEater666]

Originally Posted by FrugalGreubel

I’ll save you the click.

Quick Breakdown:

- half the video is him shitting on RM.

- mentioned Journe’s personality bothering some people but not him personally

- he referenced that alleged incident at the collectors dinner. You know the one that every YouTuber has talked about but none were actually there?

- hinted at some shady practices at the sales and executive level (not Journe himself). Such as giving money under the table to get a watch faster and paying a full deposit but being made to wait years.

- Journe supposedly blacklisting people who sell their watches

- says the brand needs to be more friendly and less snobby or they might lost customers

- prices have come down significantly

- you can get pieces faster than you used to

For what it's worth, I found the NYC boutique for FPJ to be very straightforward and honest relative to other brands. Not snobbish at all.

Same with their dealers in Canada.

This was pre & post COVID.

[codecow]

Originally Posted by jessiethe3rd

Waiting on my second piece, Chronometre Optimum… the pace of waiting for this watch is measured in years. Not in woke canceled dinners.

Hahaha woke canceled dinners!

[Goupax]

None of these gossipers on social media has a clue of what he said exactly, it is most likely overblown as most things are on the internet.