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Old 15 January 2020, 03:59 AM   #1
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Hi , I am new here . And from India .
I spoke to my AD and he’s willing to let me have a hulk by March OR a Batman by May/June provided I buy two Nomos from him having a combined retail price of $7000 USD and he’s willing to give me a discount of 25 % on the Nomos .

Is it a good deal ? Or you think that’s plain arm twisting ?
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Old 15 January 2020, 04:02 AM   #2
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Old 15 January 2020, 04:02 AM   #3
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No . I just want the Rolex !!
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Old 15 January 2020, 04:04 AM   #4
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No . I just want the Rolex !!


Then you’re wasting $7000 in order to get a Rolex. Absolutely not. Cheaper to go grey.


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Old 15 January 2020, 04:05 AM   #5
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Yes,theyre arm twisting you. If your ok with taking the Nomos twist back and wait until they can bundle all three.
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Old 15 January 2020, 04:06 AM   #6
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No . I just want the Rolex !!
So the answer should be obvious.
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If you don't want the other watches, just buy gray market for about the same money and get the Hulk right now....
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Old 15 January 2020, 04:06 AM   #8
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Then you’re wasting $7000 in order to get a Rolex. Absolutely not. Cheaper to go grey.


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Same here. Finding a buyer for the other watches will be very difficult and you'll lose more money. If they have grey dealers there, I think it will be cheaper for the LVC at least.
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Old 15 January 2020, 04:08 AM   #9
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That's called extortion is some circles.
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Old 15 January 2020, 04:13 AM   #10
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That's called extortion is some circles.


Common practice with Rolex...


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Old 15 January 2020, 04:16 AM   #11
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Just seems it’s an artificial scarcity created by the ADs . If they can supply me with a hulk in March , they probably don’t have a very long wait list .
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Old 15 January 2020, 04:17 AM   #12
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Well, if you get a 25% discount on the $7000 MSRP of the two Nomos then you will be into those watches for $5,250. If you were to take both unworn, fully stickered watches and trade them into a dealer you'll probably be able to get ~30% of retail back. Say, $2,250 to keep the math clean. At this point, you're out $3000. Is the grey market price of a Hulk more than $3000 higher than MSRP? If not, then the answer is clear, go grey. If it is, then it really comes down to how you value your time relative to the remaining price gap.
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Old 15 January 2020, 04:17 AM   #13
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Go grey and be done. ADs adopting these strategies are just feeding the beast.

I have absolutely zero tolerance for AD games. And those are some pretty specific delivery dates...they probably already have the watches in stock and they will miraculously appear once you’ve bought the Nomos watches.


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Old 15 January 2020, 04:28 AM   #14
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At this point, you're out $3000.
Maybe it would simpler to just buy the wife/husband/partner a $25 (whatever that is in Rupees) ring for $3000 and bundle in the watch.

Alternatively, Oris makes a very nice Swiss automatic watch in green for about what that premium is.

I don't pay over MSRP, period, for anything. I know it's a relative number, but you have to draw the line somewhere. Otherwise it's just anarchy.
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Old 15 January 2020, 04:29 AM   #15
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Old 15 January 2020, 04:32 AM   #16
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Hi , I am new here . And from India .
I spoke to my AD and he’s willing to let me have a hulk by March OR a Batman by May/June provided I buy two Nomos from him having a combined retail price of $7000 USD and he’s willing to give me a discount of 25 % on the Nomos .

Is it a good deal ? Or you think that’s plain arm twisting ?
Bhai, please go Gray. You will save money and not end up with two Nomos that it does not seem you want (plus they are toxic on the secondary market if you try to sell them down the line). It's not worth playing these AD games, pay the premium (which is undoubtedly less than 7k) and have the watch sooner so you can enjoy it.
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Old 15 January 2020, 04:33 AM   #17
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No . I just want the Rolex !!
Then it is an absolutely terrible deal for you.
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Old 15 January 2020, 04:33 AM   #18
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Tell the AD their proposition makes you angry, and that they wouldn't like you when you're angry...

Personally, going gray or this AD game, 16K for a hulk is just crazy to me.
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Old 15 January 2020, 04:35 AM   #19
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Just seems it’s an artificial scarcity created by the ADs . If they can supply me with a hulk in March , they probably don’t have a very long wait list .
Being blunt, they don’t want to just sell you a hulk on its own.
Go grey market
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Old 15 January 2020, 04:35 AM   #20
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Tell the AD their proposition makes you angry, and that they wouldn't like you when you're angry...

Personally, going gray or this AD game, 16K for a hulk is just crazy to me.
I agree with this. I don't buy other things just so I can get what I want. I would rather buy from someone else who is not taking an advantage of me.

$16K, $17K, $18K for something people can buy new for half that is nuts to me. If it was a discontinued piece nobody could get anymore I could maybe see the value.
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Old 15 January 2020, 04:38 AM   #21
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I think I am gonna wait it out . Thanks anyway guys !!!!
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Old 15 January 2020, 04:46 AM   #22
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Well, if you get a 25% discount on the $7000 MSRP of the two Nomos then you will be into those watches for $5,250. If you were to take both unworn, fully stickered watches and trade them into a dealer you'll probably be able to get ~30% of retail back. Say, $2,250 to keep the math clean. At this point, you're out $3000. Is the grey market price of a Hulk more than $3000 higher than MSRP? If not, then the answer is clear, go grey. If it is, then it really comes down to how you value your time relative to the remaining price gap.


Absolutely agree with this. Plus your time and energy that it’d take to off load the 2 Nomos. I’d just go Grey at that point and I’m not the biggest fan of paying over MSRP
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Old 15 January 2020, 04:48 AM   #23
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I think I am gonna wait it out . Thanks anyway guys !!!!
Wait what out?
Sounds like the AD won’t sell you one without a “bundle deal”
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Wait what out?

Sounds like the AD won’t sell you one without a “bundle deal”


Maybe he is waiting for price on secondary market to come down


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Old 15 January 2020, 07:08 AM   #25
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Personally I don’t see that happening on HULK.
I think it’s in a slight dip and will go back up. If discontinued it will absolutely rocket (although nothing is certain)
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Old 15 January 2020, 07:16 AM   #26
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Personally I don’t see that happening on HULK.

I think it’s in a slight dip and will go back up. If discontinued it will absolutely rocket (although nothing is certain)


Completely agreed. Don’t think it will happen either. Only way I see it going is either stabilizing or rocketing up if it’s discontinued come Basel.
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Old 15 January 2020, 07:31 AM   #27
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I think I am gonna wait it out . Thanks anyway guys !!!!


Absolutely positively the right decision to wait for whatever it is you’re waiting for. The AD obviously can’t sell these watches and is the reason he’s trying to strong arm you into buying 2 of them.

So if he can’t sell them what chances do you have?


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Personally, going gray or this AD game, 16K for a hulk is just crazy to me.

ABSOLUTELY spot on. When I got my hulk - it had been sitting at my AD for a YEAR. It also came with a nice discount.

There is absolutely nothing special about that reference - or any of the GMTs — unless you want a Professional model with the jubilee bracelet.

I would love to know how many of those who bought into the hype were underwhelmed - and turned around and unloaded it. same with some of the Pateks etc.



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Old 15 January 2020, 08:05 AM   #29
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Well, if you get a 25% discount on the $7000 MSRP of the two Nomos then you will be into those watches for $5,250. If you were to take both unworn, fully stickered watches and trade them into a dealer you'll probably be able to get ~30% of retail back. Say, $2,250 to keep the math clean. At this point, you're out $3000. Is the grey market price of a Hulk more than $3000 higher than MSRP? If not, then the answer is clear, go grey. If it is, then it really comes down to how you value your time relative to the remaining price gap.
ha that is exactly what i was thinking...guess its the mountain air.
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