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Old 16 April 2024, 11:34 AM   #1
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I have been trying for a year to find a GMT II at an AD. As a pilot it’s the pinnacle of watches. I have an oyster perpetual that is my everyday watch. Am I crazy for trying to obtain a GMT at retail with only a OP? You won’t hurt my feelings by saying yes. My friend in NYC said his AD said there are no more GMTs being allocated for the rest of the year at retail. Has anyone heard anything?
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Old 16 April 2024, 11:45 AM   #2
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I sure hope not. I'm still waiting for my wife's batgirl, and we only purchased Tudor and did a service at this AD that I'm waiting for.

Which color bezel did you ask for?
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Old 16 April 2024, 11:50 AM   #3
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Good luck! I have three GMT's - the latest I just got in January and the first one I purchased in 2019. The VTNR (Sprite) I just got I was on the waitlist for 2 years. The other two (CHNR and BLNR) took an average of 6 months. People will tell you they know how long it will be, but nobody really knows. The availability - judging from the forum - is getting better. I suggest getting on the waitlist at multiple AD's - there are any number of ways AD's manage their waitlists - and this will increase you chances.
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Old 16 April 2024, 11:56 AM   #4
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Thanks! That’s reassuring! I asked for any as gmt. Beggers can’t be choosers.
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Old 16 April 2024, 12:08 PM   #5
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I just went grey market. How much do you want it? Sounds like you really want it. I am assuming grey market is too steep? (About a 50% mark up) It is what it is.

For me I just realized paying retail was just not going to happen and for me I considered it a false choice - if I wanted a GMT the price is the grey market price.
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Old 16 April 2024, 12:50 PM   #6
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I’m going to give it some time and see what happens. I do really want it, but I just don’t feel comfortable jumping into the used market with out putting forth a noble effort at the ADs.
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Old 16 April 2024, 12:54 PM   #7
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Old 16 April 2024, 03:48 PM   #8
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I can understand the attraction of the GMT for a pilot they are brilliant watches maybe for this one you might have to go grey or have you considered going backwards and going for a 5 digit reference 16710
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Old 16 April 2024, 03:56 PM   #9
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Is this the AD who said Rolex was going to kill the PEPSI this year?
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Old 16 April 2024, 03:58 PM   #10
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Good luck hope you get your GMT, explorer ii can offer GMT functionality and is a stunning watch …
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Old 16 April 2024, 04:07 PM   #11
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I have been trying for a year to find a GMT II at an AD. As a pilot it’s the pinnacle of watches. I have an oyster perpetual that is my everyday watch. Am I crazy for trying to obtain a GMT at retail with only a OP? You won’t hurt my feelings by saying yes. My friend in NYC said his AD said there are no more GMTs being allocated for the rest of the year at retail. Has anyone heard anything?
I’d go grey, you’ll get a root beer or steel and gold GMT (jubilee) for around list price (once you’ve factored in tax etc)
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Old 16 April 2024, 04:08 PM   #12
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Keep bugging your AD. Persistence, enthusiasm, and a good attitude about extended wait times will pay off.
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Old 16 April 2024, 04:14 PM   #13
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Good luck hope you get your GMT, explorer ii can offer GMT functionality and is a stunning watch …
I have a polar, but the latest gen black wears smaller, and more like jewelry. I love it. Should be easier to get than a GMT and is more masculine, imho. This might lead to a GMT for the next watch. Also, the black exp2 looks good on rubber, so you don’t have to worry about banging the bracelet reaching for stuff in the cockpit.
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Old 16 April 2024, 04:28 PM   #14
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I have a polar, but the latest gen black wears smaller, and more like jewelry. I love it. Should be easier to get than a GMT and is more masculine, imho. This might lead to a GMT for the next watch. Also, the black exp2 looks good on rubber, so you don’t have to worry about banging the bracelet reaching for stuff in the cockpit.
I say never settle for an alternative. You'll waste time and money IMHO

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Old 16 April 2024, 07:56 PM   #15
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Good luck! I hope it comes through for you.
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Old 16 April 2024, 09:39 PM   #16
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There is always the chance that one will turn up at an AD and the watch gods will bestow it upon you. Not likely, but someone has to win the lottery so why not you. I would use the wait time to research the various models and styles and try to level it down to your personal preferences. With that information you can monitor secondary prices and trends. I would look at the previous generation Black GMT that came on the Oyster bracelet and was discontinued in 2019. This watch can be had as a complete set for around 12K and it is great looking. Good luck.
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Old 16 April 2024, 10:50 PM   #17
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It might depend on which GMT you are looking for. A BLRO will be next to impossible, but you might have better luck landing the others although still difficult.

IMHO, you should take a look at 16710’s from the early 2000’s. Solid end links, sapphire crystals, holes or no holes cases … best of modern and vintage all rolled up into one
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Old 16 April 2024, 10:57 PM   #18
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It might depend on which GMT you are looking for. A BLRO will be next to impossible, but you might have better luck landing the others although still difficult.
Spot on.
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Old 17 April 2024, 12:45 AM   #19
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IMHO, you should take a look at 16710’s from the early 2000’s. Solid end links, sapphire crystals, holes or no holes cases … best of modern and vintage all rolled up into one
This. The 16710 is probably the most versatile watch Rolex has made, with the solid 3185 or 3186 movement and the ability to easily switch bracelets and bezel inserts for very different looks.
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find one in grey market and enjoy it
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I am giving my son my 16750 GMT BLRO as a gift for college graduation, I bought it 35 years ago for myself when I graduate. When we take it in to get it sized for him at my AD I will put my name down for a NEW BLRO to replace it. Guessing it will be a while....

Good luck with your hunt! Don't discount the 5 digit models, mine is 35 years old and still going strong.
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Old 17 April 2024, 06:46 AM   #22
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Your chances go up if you target a specific reference. "Any GMT" suggests flipper.

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Old 17 April 2024, 07:46 AM   #23
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In my country, Malaysia, it is almost impossible to get GMT. I waited for sometime but no call ever received from AD. So a few weeks ago, I decided to get it at grey market. It was a batman by the way.
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Pilots are the coolest and always get what they want. Be patient it's just a matter of time.
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I don't think thats the case. keep trying. I've heard people heaving luck picking up the BLNR Wirth no purchase history.
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If you can, go to Tokyo and get THE GMT of your choice. I could not believe the number available for sale !

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I have been trying for a year to find a GMT II at an AD. As a pilot it’s the pinnacle of watches. I have an oyster perpetual that is my everyday watch. Am I crazy for trying to obtain a GMT at retail with only a OP? You won’t hurt my feelings by saying yes. My friend in NYC said his AD said there are no more GMTs being allocated for the rest of the year at retail. Has anyone heard anything?
Pilots go the the front of the line at my AD. I should hope the same at other ADs.
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Old 17 April 2024, 12:10 PM   #28
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Thanks for all the replies!! Y’all are great, I’m going to keep chipping away at the ADs and keep my fingers crossed. I’ll report back with how the experience goes. Today was the second time I stopped by the AD and he once again took down all my info. He said they keep track of every visit. It’s actually pretty fun stopping by, kinda like going to a car show. 😁
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Thanks for all the replies!! Y’all are great, I’m going to keep chipping away at the ADs and keep my fingers crossed. I’ll report back with how the experience goes. Today was the second time I stopped by the AD and he once again took down all my info. He said they keep track of every visit. It’s actually pretty fun stopping by, kinda like going to a car show. 😁
Best of luck to you!
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I have been trying for a year to find a GMT II at an AD. As a pilot it’s the pinnacle of watches. I have an oyster perpetual that is my everyday watch. Am I crazy for trying to obtain a GMT at retail with only a OP? You won’t hurt my feelings by saying yes. My friend in NYC said his AD said there are no more GMTs being allocated for the rest of the year at retail. Has anyone heard anything?
I was able to get a Batman in Oct 2023 with only a Sub date purchase history. I do have to say, I had to wait 3yrs on the list.
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