which chrono do you prefer

[unknown]

Would be great if you could give me some reasons WHY you prefer the 5070 or 5170

I know which one I would take but I'm biased ….
I made this poll because somebody asked me which one I prefer …. I am unable to give an unbiased answer because one of these two is just the perfect watch for me

So which one would you take and why ?



a few examples of the 5170











reference 5070

[HL65]

Even as owner of 5170G there is no comparison....5070 all day long in any metal! My biggest regret is parting with my 5070P :(

PS not a fan at all of the 5170J

[topcat30093]

Though, I know from several points, such as Lemania movement and future investment price. The 5070 would probably be the winner.

But for me, who is not a fan of Roman Numerals, I have voted for the 5170, as that are the options.

But given a wider choice, then I would go for the new L&S Datagraph

[dysondiver]

on looks , 5170 , but as an all round decision , it would be the 50 .

so no help from me.

[travisb]

5070. Especially in RG.

[unknown]

Originally Posted by HL65

Even as owner of 5170G there is no comparison....5070 all day long in any metal! My biggest regret is parting with my 5070P :(

PS not a fan at all of the 5170J

why not hunt for another one.
I know they are expensive but that won't change in the future …. on the contrary
You paid your 5970R for sure also more than it's list price back in 2006 or 2008

[HL65]

Originally Posted by unknown

why not hunt for another one.
I know they are expensive but that won't change in the future …. on the contrary
You paid your 5970R for sure also more than it's list price back in 2006 or 2008

I am Bruno....Looking at P and R.

[Vipes]

I've never seen the 5070 in the flesh. I have handled the 5170g a few times and based on my limited experience, I would chose the 5170. Based on looks, I don't like the wide stepped bezel of the 5070. The 5170 has a better proportioned dial/bezel, IMO. I also like the Breguet numerals better.

[goog53]

I tried on both and in my comparison the 5070 is on another level. I prefer the look and the shape of the case

[benlee]

Its hard to decide. 5070 if purely on looks and better resale. However, I tend to prefer inhouse movement.

[venom43]

First Patek I ever looked at was a 5070p....that blue dial was amazing. That saying I really like the new 5170G.

[JorgeCCW]

Is there a case size difference ?

[jonathan17]

Originally Posted by benlee

Its hard to decide. 5070 if purely on looks and better resale. However, I tend to prefer inhouse movement.

I agree with this plus i think breguet numbers helps the 5170 look awesome.

[JorgeCCW]

Originally Posted by jonathan17

I agree with this plus i think breguet numbers helps the 5170 look awesome.

That VC on the back is the only VC, I really like. Gorgeous


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[SearChart]

5170j

[RussW]

Originally Posted by HL65

I am Bruno....Looking at P and R.

Ken, just curious, why did you let the 5070p go?

[RussW]

Depends on the metal for me. 5070p would be my first choice, no question. If the p was not an option I would go 5170g. I would then revert back to the 5070 in any metal.

[HL65]

Originally Posted by RussW

Ken, just curious, why did you let the 5070p go?

Everyone makes mistakes in life.

This one of the biggest!

[RussW]

Originally Posted by HL65

Everyone makes mistakes in life.

This one of the biggest!

All part of the journey. I have no doubt you'll get one back

[HL65]

Originally Posted by RussW

All part of the journey. I have no doubt you'll get one back

If not P then R!

[MrJ320]

I recently tried on a 5070R and 5170J, and I must say 5070 all the way for me. I love the larger size and also the details and balance of the dial on the 5070. I also really like the different levels of beveling of the bezel on the 5070.

There is more detail on the caseback of the 5170 which is a nice touch, but all in all, hands down 5070 for me after seeing both in person.

[el1125]

I own both and choose 5070

[unknown]

Originally Posted by HL65

If not P then R!

Isn't 5070R the smarter move ?
The 5070P is gorgeous, no question

But it is damn expensive, probably because this one is very rare.
But on the other hand, is it worth the same as a 5070R AND 5070G ?

Look at the 5970 …. a P will be more or less 30 till 40% % more expensive than J/R/G
When looking at the 5070P …. its 100% more than the other 5070's.

[HL65]

Originally Posted by unknown

Isn't 5070R the smarter move ?
The 5070P is gorgeous, no question

But it is damn expensive, probably because this one is very rare.
But on the other hand, is it worth the same as a 5070R AND 5070G ?

Look at the 5970 …. a P will be more or less 30 till 40% % more expensive than J/R/G
When looking at the 5070P …. its 100% more than the other 5070's.

Precisely why I am leaning towards R also to go wth my 5970R which I chose over the P as love the sliver dial and warm RG case!!

[2muchtimeonmyhands]

Love the 5170g, if they come out with more variations all the better

[AK797]

5070P otherwise Dato.

[JorgeCCW]

Dato up/down platinum, the magic of Patek 5170 has vanished with all the low demand/supply issue.


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[HL65]

Originally Posted by JorgeCCW

Dato up/down platinum, the magic of Patek 5170 has vanished with all the low demand/supply issue.


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Pay $91K for an Up Down and it is worth mid 50's the day you walk out the shop. Had one on last week and have to say was underwhelmed. I thought the original Dato Platinum was much nicer. I did own it though and didn't like proportions. It was small and thick and wore strangely IMHO. The 5070 on the other hand pure Patek Chrono perfection.

[JorgeCCW]

Originally Posted by HL65

Pay $91K for an Up Down and it is worth mid 50's the day you walk out the shop. Had one on last week and have to say was underwhelmed. I thought the original Dato Platinum was much nicer. I did own it though and didn't like proportions. It was small and thick and wore strangely IMHO. The 5070 on the other hand pure Patek Chrono perfection.

The old Dato has weird proportions, the new Dato has better proportions plus has a big date. In my eyes the Dato is always been the best Chrono, and the only reason we put it lower to the 5170 is because Patek has better Resale than Lange. But if both models are suffering in resale, I see no reason to go Patek in that case.
5070 is discontinued and therefore in a different category. But if I have the opportunity to buy a 5070 LNIB, in that case yes the Patek is a better buy . To each is own, and that's my humble opinion on the matter.




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[HL65]

Originally Posted by JorgeCCW

The old Dato has weird proportions, the new Dato has better proportions plus has a big date. In my eyes the Dato is always been the best Chrono, and the only reason we put it lower to the 5170 is because Patek has better Resale than Lange. But if both models are suffering in resale, I see no reason to go Patek in that case.
5070 is discontinued and therefore in a different category. But if I have the opportunity to buy a 5070 LNIB, in that case yes the Patek is a better buy . To each is own, and that's my humble opinion on the matter.




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Actually Jorge believe it or not the 5170 also has awful resale value similar to Lange. The 5070 is the one with great collector demand and strong resale value.