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Somehow you are assuming MMJ growers are not into quality. Nothing could be further from the truth. They operate near pharmaceutical quality operations that are held to higher standards of purity than smaller artisanal recreational growers. You are also assuming that they are growing outdoors like the craft growers in Humboldt County, but that is actually not accurate. Their greenhouse and indoor grow facilities are extremely sophisticated and capable of segregated harvests via multiple grow rooms...for obvious reasons. It just happens to be that they have the funded capital to expanded more rapidly than the smaller craft growers you were describing. At the end of the day, there will be multiple segments within each product category. As an an investor, I am most concerned about a companies ability to scale as quickly as posdible while simultaneously reducing cost of production via efficiencies. Reducing cost is not synonymous with cutting corners nor compromising product quality...actually, quite the opposite. They are more stringent, better organized, more concerned about quality, consistency of dosing, etc...due to their focus surrounding being a medical product provider. Only time will tell which approach wins, but so far, over a billion dollars of capital has been raised by the top 4 Canadian companies, and they are best positioned to meet the demand once Health Canada flips the recreational switch on or before July 1, 2018. The one thing we can all agree on is that Cannabis is a fast growing industry gaining increasing global acceptance by the day. Hope the trend continues. |
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I support the smaller 'boutique growers' + it will now be legal to 'grow your own' (up to a certain amount) where both medical/recreational usage is allowed.
The mass commercialization/industrialization/investment speculation/taxation of cannabis seems kind of tacky and IMO reeks of avarice. Perhaps it's another new 'gold rush'. Watch the advertising world grab hold of this lucrative cash cow with their contrived portrayals of pot smokers and the various idyllic lifestyles associated with the pastime. Viagra and Cialis were only the beginning. |
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Great thread OP!
I also just bought a small position (500 shares) into Aphria. I am more of an “average up” kind of a guy and prefer to do creeping purchases. I like to invest in longer term bets and my portfolio is largely tech names (mainstream ones - nothing exotic), Asian names and funds, and some luxury names like Richemont and LVMH (cos I just love watches!) I can see the impact this change in social and legal acceptance of cannabis and the longer term potential. Thanks for this thread. |
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And the rise continues...
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And nobody questions the legalization of this evil drug,
its not the stuff that john, paul, George, and ringo puffed in the 60s, I find it hard to believe that the industry behind this vile poison has slowly but surely been allowed to chip away all the barriers and controls that once were, the police gave up on it in the uk years ago, it took 50 odd years, but they won in the end. sickening. |
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It’s much cleaner and better for you than it was back in the day. And huge amounts of medical benefits. Certainly a more valuable set of benefits than any alcoholic beverage.
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With over 100 beneficial compunds in Cannabis and Hemp, now is the time to research how they can be corralled to replace Opioids, Tobacco, Alcohol, ...and Main Stream Media...kidding! |
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As Dennis Peron, author of California Prop 215 (legalized medical marijuana) once said, "All use is medicinal."
The irony is that while many affluent people smoke pot, the majority of them do not want marijuana dispensaries (medical or recreational) in their neighborhoods/towns. Another ongoing juvenile concern. In the old days, kids use to raid their parent's liquor cabinet. Now many of them are raiding their parent's stash. |
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Regarding cell towers, I always thought when some rich dude who dies of a heart attack while jogging in a NIMBY town(cell tower ban town), people will change their minds about the tiny virtually invisible towers on church steeple and chimneys. Would be great to one day live in a world where the vocal minority no longer terrorizes the silent majority. Here’s to hoping... |
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This threads givin' me the munchies!
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Next question: Should the counterpersons at these medical and recreational marijuana dispensaries be licensed or board certified like pharmacists and pharmacy technicians or is it OK for them to be just another Joe Blow like you see at most liquor stores?
I suspect that the majority of these current retail marijuana salespeople are simply potheads who have landed a fun job (in their minds). How else could one provide empirical details and comprehensive descriptions of the product and its overall characteristics? It would be akin to selecting a fine wine based on the recommendations of an 'expert' who doesn't drink wine. It's probably OK for recreational pot sales but not particularly desirable for those seeking medicinal relief (unless hyperbole and BS are the key selling tools in this new industry). Besides, marijuana affects everyone differently and along with its natural variances in phenotypes, consistency will always present a challenge regardless of cultivation environment. It's like that old adage, same parents/different children. Or to clarify things even simpler, some apples (or any fruit for that matter) often taste better than others off the same tree. Pot is agriculture. No different than growing high-quality fruits and vegetables. The only difference is that it has become a 'cash cow' for saavy investors now that it is legal in many states. As aforementioned, I'm sticking with the 'small growers' rather than conglomerates cranking out tons of weed. It's a similar approach to opting for a weekend 'farmer's market' or boutique brewery. No 'BUD-weiser' for me. |
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All kidding aside, you state the very reasons when Cannabis and Hemp need to be re-scheduled and researched thoroughly to exploit its potential benefits to the fullest. The anecdotal evidence is already there, but now the ignorant obstructionists like Jeff Sessions have to be over-ruled. The compounds in this plant may literally cure cancer, but we may never know as long as the government continues to be influenced (double-entendre!!) by the alcohol and pharmaceutical lobby. Only time will tell where it all goes, but in the interim, Canada, Germany, Italy, Australia, Spain, Uruguay, Argentina, Mexico, etc... aren’t going to wait for the U.S.’ blessing any longer. Either they get with the program, or risk following behind the what will be the fastest growing industry over the next five years. Yet another case for smaller government. |
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Whether pot is for you or not, this industry is just getting started. I bet you are going to be able to buy some at your local 7-11 soon enough. |
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Reading this thread with interest as I own a few hundred shares of APHQF.
Nice bump today. I agree that pot's medicinal qualities far out-way any real harm for recreational users. I don't indulge anymore (I was a stoner in my 20s) but still think it's much safer than alcohol. |
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I am not ignorant, I am not closed of mind,
I have known many people who have bought into this muck, they became shadows of their former selves, its called 'dope' for a reason. Speak to mental health professionals, they will tell you all about the devastation this drug causes, you wont hear of these peoples first hand experiences, as the 'industry' doesn't want this publicised. The alcohol argument is just a red herring, and my answer to that would be that yes, we have enough issues with alcohol, so how is legalising cannabis going to help? it wont, it will make (and already has) a big society problem, many times bigger. I am disgusted at how we hear of this B/S 'the war on drugs has failed'. There never has been a war, its just a brainwashing soundbite to make the public think legalisation is inevitable, the medicinal benefits are the biggest lie going, this lie is essential to get this poison legalised, another red herring, so theres my informed view, if you have family you are their last defence against this terrible drug, your leaders (that's the west) are an absolute disgrace, nah, you can stick the shares in this lunacy where the sun doesn't shine. |
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you are most certainly entitled to your opinions. but your views are extreme and as with most extreme views there are inherent flaws in logic. for what is it worth, I smoked for nearly two decades. I stopped only because I was noticing that would get anxious. I know of literally hundreds of extremely successful smokers. that includes, lawyers, doctors, and engineers. and from my own personal experience, I recently did smoke when my gout medicine knocked me on my ass. I smoked at the urging of my father in law. I felt better almost immediately. my buddies father is dying from cancer. he has days, maybe weeks to live. they are certain he won't see Christmas. and he is in tons of pain. he says the edibles are the only thing that gives him a sense of comfort and an appetite. while you certainly have valid reasons for your point of view, your views are not all encompassing and they are flawed.
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I literally have 3 friends who are psychiatrists and 4 who are therapists. With the exception of 1, they are all thrilled at the prospect of legalized marijuana... especially cbd oil. The one dissenter is sure that his practice will lose money because he won't need to prescribe as many anti-anxiety medications. There is a reason why hospitals have pharmaceutical alcohol on hand. My friend showed me the hospital booze that they keep on hand for alcoholics so that they don't die of withdraw while in hospital care. Alcohol is so much worse for your body than marijuana. I firmly believe (anecdotal) that there will be less alcohol abuse with mj is more readily available. I live in CA and my uncle has already said he will drink less starting on January 1st. That has nothing to do with a resolution. The medical benefits are there my friend... no denying that. There are so many legitimate studies done on this subject. It isn't going to cure cancer, but mj can replace opioids in a lot of instances. Opioid addiction is the real issue that we face today. Many kids are getting their first taste of it from their parents' medicine cabinet. Less opioid prescriptions written means less access to the stuff by kids. I get that you personally don't want to partake, and that is fine... but to have such a strong negative perception of it is a little strange. |
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However, you have to agree there are an unusual number of anecdotal incidents of stage 4 cancers being killed off by high-concentration CBD oils. Obviously, there is something going on when the doctors who treat the patients themselves proclaim the rapid disappearance of active cancer cells as a miracle. Let’s shine a light on this phenomenon by opening it up to additional research. |
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This statement above however I believe to be ill informed. I'll quickly explain why. My wife was born with Scoliosis. I'll spare you the long and winding road of pain management she has endured. Suffice it to say that after 15+ years of an ever increasing opioid based treatment with diminishing results her pain specialist suggested that she try medicinal cannabis. 2 consultations later and 6 months into it she is absolutely amazed how well this works. She uses a high CBD level product which does not make her high in any way. She can function normally without any residual side effects plus the benefit of a reduction in GI track issues that opioids complicate. You can call her a convert to this form of treatment.
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This isn't weed from 1970s either. The indica strain is great for me at night and Sativa is better for day or late afternoon. I don't smoke it, it's edible or an oil |
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There is a war on drugs. I was on the front lines of it for over 20 years as a street police officer. Retired Police Captain Peter Christ sums up and ties all the loose ends on this. Please have a look. Eye opening. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8yYJ_oV6xk |
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