Car Love Thread

[BraveBold]

Originally Posted by SMD

Question for the car aficionados here:

Anyone have experience with the McLaren/Merc SLR? Thinking of buying one as I think their under appreciated, but also its fun as shit to drive for a car of its vintage. Any feedback would be appreciated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7fz-ZPWM24

Also, have an outgoing and incoming later in the week/next week once the ppf and other stuff gets completed.

Toyed with the idea of adding one as it was the least appreciated of the trinity of its era. Seemed a good “value” - at least relatively speaking. Unfortunately the styling and overall driving characteristics (automatic transmission) were too great a sacrifice to justify consolidating my cars to add this one.

Someone I know has one in addition to the Enzo and CGT. I think at that stage it makes sense…

[strettyend]

Originally Posted by 7sins

If you are going McLaren, go 675LT, no better car under $250k. Great car on and off the track as close as you can get to a P1 and long term should be a good investment.

Echo this. 675LT is the best car I have ever driven.

[SMD]

Originally Posted by 7sins

If you are going McLaren, go 675LT, no better car under $250k. Great car on and off the track as close as you can get to a P1 and long term should be a good investment.

The SLR is more of an investment car. Not your typical McLaren.

[SMD]

Originally Posted by BraveBold

Toyed with the idea of adding one as it was the least appreciated of the trinity of its era. Seemed a good “value” - at least relatively speaking. Unfortunately the styling and overall driving characteristics (automatic transmission) were too great a sacrifice to justify consolidating my cars to add this one.

Someone I know has one in addition to the Enzo and CGT. I think at that stage it makes sense…

That is kind of my thought process. Transmission is the weak spot for sure, front mid is fine as I am used to it. Right now they are trading around 300, which is a lot of car for the price.

[Schmed]

Originally Posted by SMD

Question for the car aficionados here:

Anyone have experience with the McLaren/Merc SLR? Thinking of buying one as I think their under appreciated, but also its fun as shit to drive for a car of its vintage. Any feedback would be appreciated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7fz-ZPWM24

Also, have an outgoing and incoming later in the week/next week once the ppf and other stuff gets completed.

My buddy had a 722S. Incredible car. Fastest car I've been in (until I drove a Tesla).

[SMD]

Originally Posted by Schmed

My buddy had a 722S. Incredible car. Fastest car I've been in (until I drove a Tesla).

Thanks for the info. Driving it later this week. We shall see.

[7sins]

Originally Posted by SMD

The SLR is more of an investment car. Not your typical McLaren.

Maybe for the 722s, otherwise they only made 500 each spyder/coup for the 675lt and I think ~2200 SLR Mclaren. I would suspect the 675lt does better than the regular SLR. Also, the 675lt was only a 2yr run compared to a 8 year run for the SLR. Just my .02

[1st amg]

Originally Posted by 7sins

Maybe for the 722s, otherwise they only made 500 each spyder/coup for the 675lt and I think ~2200 SLR Mclaren. I would suspect the 675lt does better than the regular SLR. Also, the 675lt was only a 2yr run compared to a 8 year run for the SLR. Just my .02

Great points Brian....spoken like a true investment banker!

[rmlovett1]

Originally Posted by m3tek44

Since i was a child, I have been wanting 911 Turbo S and, after a few decades, I have fulfilled my dream this weekend. Yes, I'm camera shy.

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Such a beauty! Big congratulations! Love it!!

[rmlovett1]

Some may call it crazy….
Those who know mid-engine Ferrari may still may call it crazy, or understand for sure.. (given the circumstances/collection)

Went to the F1 Grand Prix in Miami a couple weeks ago, as I sat and watched, loving that beautiful sound coming from the cars, I realized how much I miss having that true F1/ferrari sound. I didn’t have that in my garage at that time. I do now.

After adding the Roma a few months ago, using it for all activities…date nights, cars & coffee, weekday driving, etc…. It’s a great do it all front engined GT Ferrari. Absolutely brilliant car.
However…I’ve always had something for truly spirited mountain drives in Atlanta/N GA area, something that I could actually use the power and enjoy on twisty or normal roads, something I’m not going to track, with great driver engagement and feedback….and proper (IMO) sound!

The F8 is good for most of that, it’s a stellar and gorgeous F car.
But given the fact the Roma is louder than the F8, and the F8 is hard to enjoy the power (I’m not taking it to the track), it’s scary fast IMO, too much for my skills to enjoy especially on public roads, … I made a change.
This led me back to a 458, (I posted at one point that I would get this car back), and ATL Ferrari happened to take one in that was perfect for me. The 458 is a car I’ve owned before and just followed the natural progression to a 488 then F8. Had the F8 almost 3yrs, enjoyed it (not as much as I should’ve), but adding the Roma really pushed me back into the 458 for all the reasons I’m sure many may be aware of…N/A, 9k rpm, screaming good sound, last Pininfarina design, etc..

Ended up finding a perfect spec (for me), the year I wanted, perfect miles (for my wants), perfect story/maintenance record, replacement for my F8.

Enough blah, blah, blah







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[BraveBold]

Gorgeous car and not crazy at all. I’m a lifelong enthusiast and very particular about my choice of car. I am considering a 458 and prefer it over almost all current (and more recent) offerings.

Beautiful car.

Originally Posted by rmlovett1

Some may call it crazy….
Those who know mid-engine Ferrari may still may call it crazy, or understand for sure.. (given the circumstances/collection)

Went to the F1 Grand Prix in Miami a couple weeks ago, as I sat and watched, loving that beautiful sound coming from the cars, I realized how much I miss having that true F1/ferrari sound. I didn’t have that in my garage at that time. I do now.

After adding the Roma a few months ago, using it for all activities…date nights, cars & coffee, weekday driving, etc…. It’s a great do it all front engined GT Ferrari. Absolutely brilliant car.
However…I’ve always had something for truly spirited mountain drives in Atlanta/N GA area, something that I could actually use the power and enjoy on twisty or normal roads, something I’m not going to track, with great driver engagement and feedback….and proper (IMO) sound!

The F8 is good for most of that, it’s a stellar and gorgeous F car.
But given the fact the Roma is louder than the F8, and the F8 is hard to enjoy the power (I’m not taking it to the track), it’s scary fast IMO, too much for my skills to enjoy especially on public roads, … I made a change.
This led me back to a 458, (I posted at one point that I would get this car back), and ATL Ferrari happened to take one in that was perfect for me. The 458 is a car I’ve owned before and just followed the natural progression to a 488 then F8. Had the F8 almost 3yrs, enjoyed it (not as much as I should’ve), but adding the Roma really pushed me back into the 458 for all the reasons I’m sure many may be aware of…N/A, 9k rpm, screaming good sound, last Pininfarina design, etc..

Ended up finding a perfect spec (for me), the year I wanted, perfect miles (for my wants), perfect story/maintenance record, replacement for my F8.

Enough blah, blah, blah







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[strettyend]

Congrats! Love that interior spec.
Was on the road with a white 458 spider yesterday and damn does the 458 look amazing in motion

[rmlovett1]

Originally Posted by BraveBold

Gorgeous car and not crazy at all. I’m a lifelong enthusiast and very particular about my choice of car. I am considering a 458 and prefer it over almost all current (and more recent) offerings.

Beautiful car.

Originally Posted by strettyend

Congrats! Love that interior spec.
Was on the road with a white 458 spider yesterday and damn does the 458 look amazing in motion

Thank you both very much!

[Jackie Daytona]

Originally Posted by rmlovett1

Some may call it crazy….
Those who know mid-engine Ferrari may still may call it crazy, or understand for sure.. (given the circumstances/collection)

Went to the F1 Grand Prix in Miami a couple weeks ago, as I sat and watched, loving that beautiful sound coming from the cars, I realized how much I miss having that true F1/ferrari sound. I didn’t have that in my garage at that time. I do now.

After adding the Roma a few months ago, using it for all activities…date nights, cars & coffee, weekday driving, etc…. It’s a great do it all front engined GT Ferrari. Absolutely brilliant car.
However…I’ve always had something for truly spirited mountain drives in Atlanta/N GA area, something that I could actually use the power and enjoy on twisty or normal roads, something I’m not going to track, with great driver engagement and feedback….and proper (IMO) sound!

The F8 is good for most of that, it’s a stellar and gorgeous F car.
But given the fact the Roma is louder than the F8, and the F8 is hard to enjoy the power (I’m not taking it to the track), it’s scary fast IMO, too much for my skills to enjoy especially on public roads, … I made a change.
This led me back to a 458, (I posted at one point that I would get this car back), and ATL Ferrari happened to take one in that was perfect for me. The 458 is a car I’ve owned before and just followed the natural progression to a 488 then F8. Had the F8 almost 3yrs, enjoyed it (not as much as I should’ve), but adding the Roma really pushed me back into the 458 for all the reasons I’m sure many may be aware of…N/A, 9k rpm, screaming good sound, last Pininfarina design, etc..

Ended up finding a perfect spec (for me), the year I wanted, perfect miles (for my wants), perfect story/maintenance record, replacement for my F8.

Enough blah, blah, blah







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Totally makes sense! Awesome car! Congrats

Side note and I guess a question really.

The F8 and Roma have the same base engine being the F154, except the F8 is a more aggressive variant of that engine being bored out a bit, and ultimately more power. It’s really curious that it sounds less aggressive and raw than the Roma which is a bit more of GT car. I’m just curious why that may be. It’s just seems kinda strange or contradictory to expectations.

To be clear that isn’t a knock on anything at all, just sort of noting it’s a bit odd.
Amazing cars all of them (F8,Roma,458)

[rmlovett1]

Originally Posted by Jackie Daytona

Totally makes sense! Awesome car! Congrats

Side note and I guess a question really.

The F8 and Roma have the same base engine being the F154, except the F8 is a more aggressive variant of that engine being bored out a bit, and ultimately more power. It’s really curious that it sounds less aggressive and raw than the Roma which is a bit more of GT car. I’m just curious why that may be. It’s just seems kinda strange or contradictory to expectations.

To be clear that isn’t a knock on anything at all, just sort of noting it’s a bit odd.
Amazing cars all of them (F8,Roma,458)

Yes, odd as it may seem….definitely a better sound out of the Roma.


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[Jackie Daytona]

Originally Posted by rmlovett1

Yes, odd as it may seem….definitely a better sound out of the Roma.


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Interesting. Just found it curious. Well congrats again! Awesome cars!

[Ftech1]

Originally Posted by Jackie Daytona

Totally makes sense! Awesome car! Congrats

Side note and I guess a question really.

The F8 and Roma have the same base engine being the F154, except the F8 is a more aggressive variant of that engine being bored out a bit, and ultimately more power. It’s really curious that it sounds less aggressive and raw than the Roma which is a bit more of GT car. I’m just curious why that may be. It’s just seems kinda strange or contradictory to expectations.

To be clear that isn’t a knock on anything at all, just sort of noting it’s a bit odd.
Amazing cars all of them (F8,Roma,458)

F8 has GPF filters, catalytic converters, turbos and a muffler. Lots of things to kill exhaust noise. F8 is the same engine as a Pista, but Pista does not have a Gas Particulate Filter so the sound is better on Pista.

Roma has turbos, Cats, and GPF (both cats and GPF are together in a smaller combined package). No mufflers, only a valve on each side for back pressure and sound control.

Also it seems to make a difference when the GPF’s are upstream on the exhaust as opposed to downstream. Example: 812 GTS and Roma are upstream. F8, SF90 are downstream and don’t sound as great

Hope this helps as to why they sound different.

[1William]

Congratulations. Great looking car.

[Jackie Daytona]

Originally Posted by Ftech1

F8 has GPF filters, catalytic converters, turbos and a muffler. Lots of things to kill exhaust noise. F8 is the same engine as a Pista, but Pista does not have a Gas Particulate Filter so the sound is better on Pista.

Roma has turbos, Cats, and GPF (both cats and GPF are together in a smaller combined package). No mufflers, only a valve on each side for back pressure and sound control.

Also it seems to make a difference when the GPF’s are upstream on the exhaust as opposed to downstream. Example: 812 GTS and Roma are upstream. F8, SF90 are downstream and don’t sound as great

Hope this helps as to why they sound different.

Awesome answer man! Love the tech info side of it all. I knew there had to be significantly more to it.

Ferrari doesn’t seem to mess up exhaust notes much so it just seemed a curiosity out of the line just based on what’s on paper. It totally makes sense on that end. Thanks for appeasing my mechanical sort of intrigue. Really curious from an engineering standpoint why Ferrari made that call to suppress the F8 and SF90 a bit further. Just for passenger comfort potentially with the mid engine layout?

[Chiboy]

Richard:

1) You have impeccable taste in cars and watches.

2) You trade in and out of cars and watches with incredible speed and frequency.

[BraveBold]

Richard, if you ever decide to trade out of that 458… keep me in mind ;-) I may still be looking lol

[SMD]

Out with the old (RS6 Avant) and in with the new (Cayenne Turbo GT). This is my family/bad weather car. Portofino M is my nice weather car. It's a dark blue, ti Akropovic exhaust. Still not sure what I think of it yet.

[SMD]

Originally Posted by Ftech1

F8 has GPF filters, catalytic converters, turbos and a muffler. Lots of things to kill exhaust noise. F8 is the same engine as a Pista, but Pista does not have a Gas Particulate Filter so the sound is better on Pista.

Roma has turbos, Cats, and GPF (both cats and GPF are together in a smaller combined package). No mufflers, only a valve on each side for back pressure and sound control.

Also it seems to make a difference when the GPF’s are upstream on the exhaust as opposed to downstream. Example: 812 GTS and Roma are upstream. F8, SF90 are downstream and don’t sound as great

Hope this helps as to why they sound different.

Correct. Same as Portofino M, added GPF and removed silencers, which allowed them to redesign the back end. Sounds pretty good all things considered, although obviously not as good as the v12s.

[rmlovett1]

Originally Posted by Chiboy

Richard:

1) You have impeccable taste in cars and watches.

2) You trade in and out of cars and watches with incredible speed and frequency.

I appreciate it.
I will go on my streaks and runs for sure… Lol!

[rmlovett1]

Originally Posted by SMD

Out with the old (RS6 Avant) and in with the new (Cayenne Turbo GT). This is my family/bad weather car. Portofino M is my nice weather car. It's a dark blue, ti Akropovic exhaust. Still not sure what I think of it yet.

That turbo GT is a hell of a vehicle! Congrats

[Ftech1]

Originally Posted by Jackie Daytona

Awesome answer man! Love the tech info side of it all. I knew there had to be significantly more to it.

Ferrari doesn’t seem to mess up exhaust notes much so it just seemed a curiosity out of the line just based on what’s on paper. It totally makes sense on that end. Thanks for appeasing my mechanical sort of intrigue. Really curious from an engineering standpoint why Ferrari made that call to suppress the F8 and SF90 a bit further. Just for passenger comfort potentially with the mid engine layout?

F8 and SF90 were a packaging issue. No where else to put them. Next time you see one of these models in person, look into the tailpipe, and you will see the metal honeycomb of the GPF.