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Old 18 December 2017, 12:06 AM   #61
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I have been eyeing your black Pam chrono for awhile now. I think I may have to add a black Pam to my collection. I have a kings fortune in 44mm Panerai straps so it’s a easy sell in my mind.
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Old 18 December 2017, 12:17 AM   #62
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I have been eyeing your black Pam chrono for awhile now. I think I may have to add a black Pam to my collection. I have a kings fortune in 44mm Panerai straps so it’s a easy sell in my mind.


Will be perfect, Panerai and Porsche goes well together


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Old 18 December 2017, 12:17 AM   #63
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You have no idea about watches,before you say crap about Panerai go and learn there history, I’m sure you don’t even own a Rolex to start with?


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Old 18 December 2017, 12:18 AM   #64
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I own and love both brands.

I'd been looking for something different than Rolex for quite some time. I sort of rotated through most of the Rolex popular sport models and frankly became a bit bored.

Then I stumbled on this one ... I'm so glad I took the leap into the Panerai brand.

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Old 18 December 2017, 12:19 AM   #65
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Old 18 December 2017, 12:22 AM   #66
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Old 18 December 2017, 12:49 AM   #67
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Old 18 December 2017, 01:03 AM   #68
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I also own both. It is fun to change the strap on the Panerai to give it different looks. But my go to are my Rolex watches.
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Old 18 December 2017, 01:07 AM   #69
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They both belong in a collection...they compliment each other very nicely.
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Old 18 December 2017, 02:25 AM   #70
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I’ve had three Panerai dating back to 1998 and nine Rolex since 1984 so I’m in the “both are great” camp. The only negative thing that applies to both brands I think is the “good old boy” system that limits distribution of the most desirable models so that a more casual buyer can never hope to get one at the dealer level.
Back in 2012 I attended a Paneristi gathering in NJ while visiting NYC on vacation. What an eye popping collection of PAMS, from one of the original 40’s versions to all of that year’s LE’s. Alas, said owners seemed to be spending $100K+ a year on their hobby, I am not in that stratosphere so will forever have to choose from the more pedestrian choices.
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Old 18 December 2017, 02:50 AM   #71
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The Panerai are popular with the new rich in LA from what I’ve seen. I guess something new, different and expensive. A surgeon wearing his was very proud when I asked about his watch in his office. A gift from his wife he said. Looked like a 44mm black face. List $12K.
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Old 18 December 2017, 03:18 AM   #72
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Both capable and robust tool watches.

IMHO panerai pricing and abundance of LE have made them less of an enduring choice.

and of course the diameter of Panerai can be something for many to get used to.
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Old 18 December 2017, 03:38 AM   #73
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I own and love both brands.

I'd been looking for something different than Rolex for quite some time. I sort of rotated through most of the Rolex popular sport models and frankly became a bit bored.

Then I stumbled on this one ... I'm so glad I took the leap into the Panerai brand.

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Old 18 December 2017, 04:00 AM   #74
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Old 18 December 2017, 04:38 AM   #75
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I've looked at the Paneria watches and find them attractive, but too large for my 7" wrist. In the 36mm to 40mm is my comfort zone. I also think twice about spending that much on a Paneria when, for a little more, I could buy a Rolex. A watch dealer friend advised me that I'd take a much bigger hit on resale going with a Paneria than with a Rolex. I don't flip watches, but I have sold a few to fund others. I've had expensively poor luck with Pateks over the years and extremely good luck with Rolex.
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Old 18 December 2017, 04:53 AM   #76
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Old 18 December 2017, 04:57 AM   #77
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Old 18 December 2017, 04:58 AM   #78
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Had to look up on YouTube how to pronounce Panerai. Owners have fun correcting you on the enunciation. Never did get what they said.

I had to listen to the YouTube more than once. It is a tricky Italian sounding name.

I’ll stick with Rolex. That’s easy.
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Old 18 December 2017, 05:05 AM   #79
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Panerai in house movements can have a lot of issues, they just put out too many in too short of time. Followed up by a not the best after sales service quality.

Rolex is better all around, quality, service, resale value.
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Old 18 December 2017, 05:15 AM   #80
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Old 18 December 2017, 05:29 AM   #81
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The first movements Panerai used were Rolex. Eventually the brand went asunder and was rescued by Richemont. So Richemont grabbed an old brand name and slapped it to a new watch aimed to a market niche.

Rolex has been the same brand, following the same tradition since it was founded. I much prefer Rolex. I never have owned nor do I believe I'll ever own a Panerai. Substance over gimmick.
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Old 18 December 2017, 05:50 AM   #82
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I agree that the Due line was a mistake. I don’t see it as the nail in their coffin though.


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I feel like Panerai watches are more for beating on (heavy rugged use), whereas rolex are more diving although panerai practically started the diver watch


Certainly never heard anyone panerai was more rugged than Rolex.
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Old 18 December 2017, 10:26 AM   #85
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They both belong in a collection...they compliment each other very nicely.

I agree. My personal collection would be incomplete unless they were both represented. Funny thing about the Pam though, I didn't "get it" at first. It wasn't until a friend insisted I wear his for a week. When I gave it back I started looking for one the next day.
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Old 18 December 2017, 10:55 AM   #86
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I agree. My personal collection would be incomplete unless they were both represented. Funny thing about the Pam though, I didn't "get it" at first. It wasn't until a friend insisted I wear his for a week. When I gave it back I started looking for one the next day.


Yeah same here...never really thought it would be for me. But took a chance and purchased a 510 to “test the waters” with Panerai. And while I no longer have it, it’s been replaced with the 422 which I anticipate will be a mainstay.




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Old 18 December 2017, 11:04 AM   #87
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I own and love both brands.

I'd been looking for something different than Rolex for quite some time. I sort of rotated through most of the Rolex popular sport models and frankly became a bit bored.

Then I stumbled on this one ... I'm so glad I took the leap into the Panerai brand.

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Old 18 December 2017, 11:11 AM   #88
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This past year's SIHH offerings from Panerai were very impressive. I enjoy Panerai styles.
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Old 18 December 2017, 11:15 AM   #89
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Certainly never heard anyone panerai was more rugged than Rolex.
My fathers 112 was still working after a hard drop from a dresser onto tiled floor, I guess thats why i think its more rugged. Not to mention their ETA's are cheaper to fix and service if they do break. Either way both are solid
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Old 18 December 2017, 11:21 AM   #90
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O.o That Blue sunburst is mesmerising
Thanks Jack

I'd say that it's even better than Rolex in that regard
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