3 weeks later… not connecting with my Submariner Date - moving on

[krounchou]

Originally Posted by MitchSF

This!

A superb collection

I also agree with Nads786, I tend to never forget the 126610 on my wrist whereas I do with my 16570. Maybe something about the weight or the width

[Krash]

It was a black dial, monotone watch when you bought it. Did you expect it to metamorphosize into something different?


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[gerry100]

Wanted a SS Sub Date for decades.
Finally went to an AD in '21 and got a rude awakening,
All they had in the case was a 16570 Black.
Bought it and like it, my one and done

[Kevin of Larchmont]

I felt the same way about my 216570 Polar Explorer. I wanted to love it, I tried to love it, I felt I should love it because the consensus was that it should be loved. But I felt nothing. As much as I wanted it in the abstract it did not fulfill my expectations. Traded it for a black 226570 and never looked back. It just works out that way sometimes.

[rufio0811]

So you spent a substantial amount of money on that watch, you may or may not have been excited to get it. Then once you got it, you kept looking at other watches that you probably like more than what you just bought and realized that you already spent that much money, you could have spent a little more and have gotten that other watch, right?

This is perfectly normal! I'd recommend you avoid browsing pictures of watches online for a little while and give your new watch a fair chance.

Sometimes you don't love a new watch immediately but the more you wear it, the more you love it. If 6 months of wearing the watch go by and you still don't love it, then consider selling & finding the one you like.

I'm no expert but that's my .02

[Nads786]

For me I would say I like it a lot but I want to love it and if that’s missing I will keep searching.

[brandrea]

Some of us have bought the same reference more than once … and it still doesn’t work out

[ppierce]

Sounds like you just want more more and more. Just buy something else and keep the Sub. Its a perfect watch. At the end of the day these are just watches. Maybe you are a joy of the chase guy.....

[alphadweller]

A great watch, nothing wrong with it intrisically. But I can relate to OP. For me, the black Sub wasn't exciting when I was in the market for my first Rolex, my second or my third. It just wasn't meant to be. I would compliment someone on his Sub, absolutely, despite the fact it left me cold at the AD when I tried it on. Courses for horses. I like my TT Sub.

[Gearjockey]

People who don’t bond with Subs remind me of those who enjoy Woody Allen films, Shoegaze music and E-bikes.

The entire thing just doesn’t make sense to me.

[Mr Ben]

I can relate - I wanted one for years and it just didn’t do it for me once it was on the wrist. I also see so many colleagues and random people in airports wearing them.

I ended up with a black dial Explorer II - I do a lot of travelling for work and hiking at the weekend so it suits my lifestyle and I love the gmt function and flash of orange. Couldn’t be happier with it and have never looked at my wrist and wished it was a sub. I’ve also never seen anyone else wearing one before or since I bought it which is a bonus!

[the dark knight]

I think people tend to over-exaggerate the ubiquity of the Sub. I'm not going to deny it is a fairly common watch as far as Rolexes go, but I don't see it THAT often in the wild. Someone above said they saw 5 people at a BJ table wearing one? I've sat at my share of poker tables and whatnot in Vegas and I have never seen more than 1 guy wearing a Sub if even that. And Vegas is where I see the most Rolexes.

The sense of ubiquity is probably not helped by the copious amount of fake Rolexes (among which the Sub seems popular) and more-so the homages. Having said that, for all intents and purposes maybe this is all the same thing. You are wearing a black monotone diver that happens to look like a lot of other watches, and it makes your watch feel less special.

[Macnavara]

Its ubiquitous for a reason……and for what its worth i think pepsis are ten a penny too…infact Rolex in general are common watches….again for a reason

[jb335]

Originally Posted by the dark knight

I think people tend to over-exaggerate the ubiquity of the Sub. I'm not going to deny it is a fairly common watch as far as Rolexes go, but I don't see it THAT often in the wild. Someone above said they saw 5 people at a BJ table wearing one? I've sat at my share of poker tables and whatnot in Vegas and I have never seen more than 1 guy wearing a Sub if even that. And Vegas is where I see the most Rolexes.

The sense of ubiquity is probably not helped by the copious amount of fake Rolexes (among which the Sub seems popular) and more-so the homages. Having said that, for all intents and purposes maybe this is all the same thing. You are wearing a black monotone diver that happens to look like a lot of other watches, and it makes your watch feel less special.

I have often expressed a similar sentiment.

Subs are not everywhere. lol

I think a fairer criticism is it’s a common choice for either a first or only Rolex and therefore a bit unimaginative. I think the reason it’s a popular choice among one-and-doners speaks to its timelessness and beauty.

The Sub deserves respect.


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[Krash]

Originally Posted by the dark knight

I think people tend to over-exaggerate the ubiquity of the Sub. I'm not going to deny it is a fairly common watch as far as Rolexes go, but I don't see it THAT often in the wild. Someone above said they saw 5 people at a BJ table wearing one? I've sat at my share of poker tables and whatnot in Vegas and I have never seen more than 1 guy wearing a Sub if even that. And Vegas is where I see the most Rolexes.

The sense of ubiquity is probably not helped by the copious amount of fake Rolexes (among which the Sub seems popular) and more-so the homages. Having said that, for all intents and purposes maybe this is all the same thing. You are wearing a black monotone diver that happens to look like a lot of other watches, and it makes your watch feel less special.

I agree but I think it’s very much exaggerated. I very rarely see one. And it’s not as if I live in the middle of nowhere. I was an executive for a financial services company (before retiring), I live in an affluent area, and I travel the world.

On TRF, people often post “everyone has one” or “I see one everywhere.” That’s utter nonsense. I do see them, but seeing two or three out in the wild over the course of a month or two is not the same thing as “everyone” has one.


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[Mauiguy]

I understand how you feel. I'm of the opposite opinion and must always have a black sub in my collection if not on my wrist. Since I was a kid, that watch had that certain identifiable look and the people who wore them were were men that I admired and wanted to be like. The fact that it's such a popular and ubiquitous watch only means that others find the design appealing as well. When I see someone else wearing one, I don't feel like I should be wearing something else. Instead I'm like, yeah buddy!

btw Vince, that sub looks great on you!

[t65tampa]

It's a super common watch from Rolex standpoint at least, but it is so popular for a reason. It's a great watch, no matter what the era or generation of production. I've got a 5513, 5512, 1680, 116610, 126610 LN, and 126610 LV. Honestly, I'm more likely going to be caught wearing a yellow gold Daytona, a gold Submariner, or one of my AP Royal Oak Offshores, but all of those Submariners will happily stay in my collection. I wouldn't sell it. Just hang on to it and one day you'll appreciate it that much more.

[Heater3000]

Originally Posted by brandrea

Some of us have bought the same reference more than once … and it still doesn’t work out

totally this!!!!!

[Tylerlsu2008]

Originally Posted by Krash

I agree but I think it’s very much exaggerated. I very rarely see one. And it’s not as if I live in the middle of nowhere. I was an executive for a financial services company (before retiring), I live in an affluent area, and I travel the world.

On TRF, people often post “everyone has one” or “I see one everywhere.” That’s utter nonsense. I do see them, but seeing two or three out in the wild over the course of a month or two is not the same thing as “everyone” has one.


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At least for me, it's not exaggerated. I was in a meeting not so long ago and in a room of maybe 40 men and women, I counted out 5 black submariner dates. I happened to have a Panerai on that day and a guy next to me a UN (which is the first time i've seen one in person TBH).

I actually ended up buying one, though I don't wear it as often as my others. But it actually grew on me more after trying it on than it did in photos.

All that said, it's popular for a reason.

[warrior]

I live in a big East Coast City (you can probably guess which one.) Back when I was going to the office everyday, I could go out for lunch in the FINANCIAL district on a sunny day and spot 2 or 3 submariners on average; that’s quite a bit IF youre looking for a Rolex watch. If that’s your definition of ubiquity, then it is.

Everything is relative, however…the vast majority of people don’t own a Rolex, much less a Submariner.

Most folks on this forum generally run in a different crowd to most, so the Sub will be more ubiquitous to them.

[omar10213245]

Sell it and buy yourself a Breguet Marine 5827 in rose gold

[Vince_76]

Originally Posted by Mauiguy

I understand how you feel. I'm of the opposite opinion and must always have a black sub in my collection if not on my wrist. Since I was a kid, that watch had that certain identifiable look and the people who wore them were were men that I admired and wanted to be like. The fact that it's such a popular and ubiquitous watch only means that others find the design appealing as well. When I see someone else wearing one, I don't feel like I should be wearing something else. Instead I'm like, yeah buddy!

btw Vince, that sub looks great on you!

Thank you! It’s funny, if there’s one thing I miss it’s the fit. Really thought complemented my wrist size and shape well.

Regarding the ubiquity point - at least in professional circles, I’ve ran in is a dime a dozen. Even out on the town it is probably what I see most.

[warrior]

I don’t doubt what you say re: ubiquity…but the vast majority of people
Don’t run in your circle .

Originally Posted by Vince_76

Thank you! It’s funny, if there’s one thing I miss it’s the fit. Really thought complemented my wrist size and shape well.

Regarding the ubiquity point - at least in professional circles, I’ve ran in is a dime a dozen. Even out on the town it is probably what I see most.

[MitchSF]

Here in Palm Beach County, I see mostly Datejusts, not many Subs. Honestly, I don't care what anyone else wears. I like and mostly wear my Subs, especially the 16610.

[Nads786]

I have the trip from ORD to DFW frequently and see tons of Rolexes in both airports. In my experience it's usually a Sub or a DJ.

On the flip side this past week week in Vegas was the first time I saw BLNR in the wild.

[Krash]

Originally Posted by Tylerlsu2008

At least for me, it's not exaggerated. I was in a meeting not so long ago and in a room of maybe 40 men and women, I counted out 5 black submariner dates. I happened to have a Panerai on that day and a guy next to me a UN (which is the first time i've seen one in person TBH).

I actually ended up buying one, though I don't wear it as often as my others. But it actually grew on me more after trying it on than it did in photos.

All that said, it's popular for a reason.

Even in that case, 5 out of 40 is not “everyone.” It’s 12.5%. And that, undoubtedly, was a unique situation. It’s not an every day event.


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[Tylerlsu2008]

Originally Posted by Krash

Even in that case, 5 out of 40 is not “everyone.” It’s 12.5%. And that, undoubtedly, was a unique situation. It’s not an every day event.


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That’s high even if we assume everyone had a mechanical watch. Out of the 40, I think there were less than 10 of us.

I.e amongst those that care about watches, it’s a very high proportion

[Avionics86]

Your money= your choice

[Krash]

Originally Posted by Tylerlsu2008

That’s high even if we assume everyone had a mechanical watch. Out of the 40, I think there were less than 10 of us.

I.e amongst those that care about watches, it’s a very high proportion

Well, now you’re changing the rules. Instead of it being the entire population of people, we’re only considering people that have a mechanical watch.
:)

I’ve been on planes and in airports and I’ve seen other guys wearing one. Just because I see maybe 2 or 3 guys with a Submariner on, that doesn’t mean I want to trade it in for a Blancpain Fifty Fathoms. That would be silly.


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[beniceiamstupid]

Originally Posted by Kevin of Larchmont

For quite some time I’ve felt curiously little for my 14060m, I mean I like it but I’m not bananas for it, but will I tell you that my new Deepsea Sea-Dweller has hit me hard in the feels. Can’t take it off, can’t stop grinnin’. May I recommend a Sub on steroids?

This is funny to me. Don't they look the same? Maybe you just need a cheap pair of glasses that is not right for your eyes to make things a little blurry?