FP Journe Appreciation Thread, an Evolution.

[Jay (Eire)]

Originally Posted by rockdrock

How about the last Edition Resonnance with 24 hr dial? At 78k? I love this watch but cost seems high, am I right?


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Yes, the retail price doesn’t reflect how they sell second hand.

This year’s Resonance, with the 24hr dial, may be more rare in terms of production numbers but I’m not sure how much that will help the resale.

I wouldn’t be a buyer at retail, or anywhere close to it. But, one never knows how things will go. We don’t know how many of them were sold or how the future demand for the Resonance might be given the new 2020 Resonance. It’s possible that this 24hr Resonance is one of the most limited runs (maybe less than the Ruthinium which trades strongly although it does have other features collectors seek).

[WatchEater666]

Originally Posted by Jay (Eire)

Yes, the retail price doesn’t reflect how they sell second hand.

This year’s Resonance, with the 24hr dial, may be more rare in terms of production numbers but I’m not sure how much that will help the resale.

I wouldn’t be a buyer at retail, or anywhere close to it. But, one never knows how things will go. We don’t know how many of them were sold or how the future demand for the Resonance might be given the new 2020 Resonance. It’s possible that this 24hr Resonance is one of the most limited runs (maybe less than the Ruthinium which trades strongly although it does have other features collectors seek).

Agreed, it's really hard to justify buying at retail when I can get one from WatchBox or another reputable used dealer with a 1 - 2 year warranty for much much lower. I am in the market now for a Resonance and plan on waiting until the new version is released to see if that pushes pricing down slightly. Could pull the trigger now but I know I'd be annoyed if prices immediately trending down after lol

[Jay (Eire)]

Originally Posted by WatchEater666

Agreed, it's really hard to justify buying at retail when I can get one from WatchBox or another reputable used dealer with a 1 - 2 year warranty for much much lower. I am in the market now for a Resonance and plan on waiting until the new version is released to see if that pushes pricing down slightly. Could pull the trigger now but I know I'd be annoyed if prices immediately trending down after lol

And Watchbox is premium pricing too; at list on their asking prices. April 2020 is the new release, at least that’s what being said right now.


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[eviperman]

Originally Posted by Jay (Eire)

Yes, the retail price doesn’t reflect how they sell second hand.

This year’s Resonance, with the 24hr dial, may be more rare in terms of production numbers but I’m not sure how much that will help the resale.

I wouldn’t be a buyer at retail, or anywhere close to it. But, one never knows how things will go. We don’t know how many of them were sold or how the future demand for the Resonance might be given the new 2020 Resonance. It’s possible that this 24hr Resonance is one of the most limited runs (maybe less than the Ruthinium which trades strongly although it does have other features collectors seek).

This years resonance was not an easy one to source as allocation sold out many months ago... it will definitely be more limited than the Ruthenium resonance, and as a 1 year model, is sure to do well in the future, especially with the new Resonance likely to be priced higher at retail than the current version.

This will help lift the aftermarket prices of all Resonances. To be honest, any Resonance at $45-50K in the aftermarket is a steal... so much watch for the $. For most collectors, the Resonance is the #1 or #2 most important FPJ to own, so if you get a chance to add one, do it :)

[subtona]

Originally Posted by eviperman

This years resonance was not an easy one to source as allocation sold out many months ago... it will definitely be more limited than the Ruthenium resonance, and as a 1 year model, is sure to do well in the future, especially with the new Resonance likely to be priced higher at retail than the current version.

This will help lift the aftermarket prices of all Resonances. To be honest, any Resonance at $45-50K in the aftermarket is a steal... so much watch for the $. For most collectors, the Resonance is the #1 or #2 most important FPJ to own, so if you get a chance to add one, do it :)

The 24 hr resonance is quite a departure from the classic as the dials dont maintain the symmetry which i believe is an important and significant aspect of the complication?

I am curious to see the next iteration of this watch.

I have noticed that the # of resonance for sale from the usual sources have nearly vanished. Perhaps it is a sudden surge of collectors or the sellers are sitting on them anticipating a meaningful increase?

I am anxious to see where the market goes for this one.

[Jay (Eire)]

Originally Posted by subtona

The 24 hr resonance is quite a departure from the classic as the dials dont maintain the symmetry which i believe is an important and significant aspect of the complication?

I am curious to see the next iteration of this watch.

I have noticed that the # of resonance for sale from the usual sources have nearly vanished. Perhaps it is a sudden surge of collectors or the sellers are sitting on them anticipating a meaningful increase?

I am anxious to see where the market goes for this one.

Agree on the symmetry. To me this 24hr dial is a dud, it doesn’t work. Either be symmetrical like the originals or clearly different like the “parking meter” Resonance.

Agree on inventory too. Dealers have put them back in their drawers, the market is incredibly dry. Of course one dealer likely has a significant stash. Buts that markets, and if you can control them good for you.


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[Jay (Eire)]

Originally Posted by eviperman

This years resonance was not an easy one to source as allocation sold out many months ago... it will definitely be more limited than the Ruthenium resonance, and as a 1 year model, is sure to do well in the future, especially with the new Resonance likely to be priced higher at retail than the current version.



This will help lift the aftermarket prices of all Resonances. To be honest, any Resonance at $45-50K in the aftermarket is a steal... so much watch for the $. For most collectors, the Resonance is the #1 or #2 most important FPJ to own, so if you get a chance to add one, do it :)

Long time owner, but I’m not sure I’d be a buyer for “any Resonance at $45-50k”.



It would make sense that there are less 24hr than the Ruthenium, even if I’ve seen a lot of the 24hr around. I’d still bet that there will be more of them available for sale in the future than the Ruthenium.


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[WatchEater666]

Originally Posted by Jay (Eire)

Long time owner, but I’m not sure I’d be a buyer for “any Resonance at $45-50k”.



It would make sense that there are less 24hr than the Ruthenium, even if I’ve seen a lot of the 24hr around. I’d still bet that there will be more of them available for sale in the future than the Ruthenium.


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Do you mean you don't feel they're well priced at that level?

[subtona]

Originally Posted by WatchEater666

Do you mean you don't feel they're well priced at that level?

I understood it to mean some resonance may be worth more and some less?

The original design has not been beat to this point imho.

Ps a ruthenium would be nice.

[Jay (Eire)]

Originally Posted by subtona

I understood it to mean some resonance may be worth more and some less?



The original design has not been beat to this point imho.



Ps a ruthenium would be nice.

Exactly.


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