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Mrdi · 29 April 2006, 11:03 AM

Waht are the differences between the
Newest
GMT II and the Explorer II

dman · 29 April 2006, 11:10 AM

Rotating bezel.

mike · 29 April 2006, 11:10 AM

Basically fixed bezel on the EXP II vs rotating bezel on the GMT II.
Same movement etc... The exp II can be had with a white face.

dman · 29 April 2006, 11:11 AM

Ahh yes, white face, forgot about that one.

mailman · 29 April 2006, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by dman

Ahh yes, white face, forgot about that one.

Not that I'm splitting hairs here, but I believe the EXP II is 39mm across and the GMT II is 40mm. Some may notice it, some may not.

JJ Irani · 29 April 2006, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mailman

Not that I'm splitting hairs here, but I believe the EXP II is 39mm across and the GMT II is 40mm. Some may notice it, some may not.

Spot on, Paulie....the Exp-II is actually 39 mm, although Rolex just claim it to be 40 mm like the rest of their sports range.

JJ

mike · 29 April 2006, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by mailman

Not that I'm splitting hairs here, but I believe the EXP II is 39mm across and the GMT II is 40mm. Some may notice it, some may not.

Yep! And I swear I can tell the difference! I need to get out more!!

Mrdi · 29 April 2006, 01:29 PM

Looks to me like the Knurl on the bezel is the silly little millimetre difference
not the case

C.J. · 29 April 2006, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrdi

Looks to me like the Knurl on the bezel is the silly little millimetre difference
not the case

edt

TARDIS · 29 April 2006, 02:51 PM

The GMT Master II was made for Pilots.
The Explorer II was made for cave dwellers.

Rto · 29 April 2006, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TARDIS

The GMT Master II was made for Pilots.
The Explorer II was made for cave dwellers.

JJ Irani · 30 April 2006, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by TARDIS

The GMT Master II was made for Pilots.
The Explorer II was made for cave dwellers.

...and I guess the Datejust was made for those who've just started dating....sheesh, how corny was that?

Rockrolex · 30 April 2006, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by JJ Irani

...and I guess the Datejust was made for those who've just started dating....sheesh, how corny was that?

And the YM was made for Yo Mamma.

C.J. · 30 April 2006, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by JJ Irani

...and I guess the Datejust was made for those who've just started dating....sheesh, how corny was that?

edt

Spencer · 30 April 2006, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by TARDIS

The GMT Master II was made for Pilots.
The Explorer II was made for cave dwellers.

As a spelunking pilot, which should I get

TARDIS · 30 April 2006, 09:22 PM

Nothing really Peter

D4UK · 2 May 2006, 12:17 AM

just a little confused then (cause on my GMTII you can't easily move the red 24 hour hand) where as a friend who has the EXPII assures me he can easily move his 24 hour hand. what about on yours?

2 May 2006, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by D4UK

just a little confused then (cause on my GMTII you can't easily move the red 24 hour hand) where as a friend who has the EXPII assures me he can easily move his 24 hour hand. what about on yours?

The 3185 movement has the quick set for the hour hand and the 4th hand rotates around with the crown. Same on both watches. There is no difference or modification to the 3185 movement for the GMT.

JJ Irani · 2 May 2006, 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by D4UK

just a little confused then (cause on my GMTII you can't easily move the red 24 hour hand) where as a friend who has the EXPII assures me he can easily move his 24 hour hand. what about on yours?

Hi Andy,

There seems to be some confusion here. As Johnny stated, both watches have the same 3185 movement with identical functions.

So if you unscrew the crown and pull it out to position 1, turning the crown in either direction will move the small hour hand (the one with the Mercedes logo on it) in the direction you turn the crown. In this position the watch is still working.

The RED 24-hour hand can only be moved after you've pulled the crown out completely and the watch has STOPPED. Then when you turn the crown you will find the long minute hand start to move and accordingly the RED hand will move. You CANNOT move the RED hand independently like you can the small hour hand.

Note: The RED hand makes ONE revolution every 24 hours.
The small hour hand makes TWO revolutions every 24 hours.

Cheers - JJ

D4UK · 2 May 2006, 12:42 AM

ok. cheers for the info Atomic

dman · 2 May 2006, 02:23 AM

They are both identical movements, Johnny is 100% correct. (That was painful to admit!!)

2 May 2006, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by dman

That was painful to admit!![/COLOR][/SIZE]

D4UK · 2 May 2006, 05:04 AM

JJ

that was my point - I own the GMT so know how it performs with it's bi-direction 24 hour bezel and the 4th hand

but I was led to believe by a EXPII owner that he could independantly move his 4th hand and this made sense as i knew the bezel on the EXPII was fixed

Rockrolex · 2 May 2006, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by D4UK

JJ

that was my point - I own the GMT so know how it performs with it's bi-direction 24 hour bezel and the 4th hand

but I was led to believe by a EXPII owner that he could independantly move his 4th hand and this made sense as i knew the bezel on the EXPII was fixed

Ask him which one he counts as the 4th hand. If he calls the mercedes hour hand the 4th hand, he's right. It is easy to move - by pulling the crown out to the second position. The rest of us call the red hour hand the 4th hand. That one only moves with the minute hand. And that's the same on both watches.

Mrdi · 2 May 2006, 12:57 PM

I thought the newest GMTs were able to move the 4th red hour hand w/o moving the minute hand?

JJ Irani · 2 May 2006, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrdi

I thought the newest GMTs were able to move the 4th red hour hand w/o moving the minute hand?

Interesting point there, Mrdi.

Wonder what the extra special feature of the new 3186 movement is....this is the one which has been fitted in the 50th Anniversary GMT-II.

29 April 2006, 11:03 AM	#1
Mrdi Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PA Posts: 3,478	GMT Exp2 Waht are the differences between the Newest GMT II and the Explorer II

29 April 2006, 11:10 AM	#2
dman Lifetime TRF Patron Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Daren Location: Austin Watch: the road Posts: 13,583	Rotating bezel. __________________ You either get it or you don't, if you have to ask, YOU DON'T!! I really hope that midget cop doesn't find me in Kokomo.

29 April 2006, 11:11 AM	#4
dman Lifetime TRF Patron Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Daren Location: Austin Watch: the road Posts: 13,583	Ahh yes, white face, forgot about that one. __________________ You either get it or you don't, if you have to ask, YOU DON'T!! I really hope that midget cop doesn't find me in Kokomo.

29 April 2006, 02:51 PM	#10
TARDIS "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Real Name: Steve Location: Queensland, AUST Posts: 2,003	Expl II & GMT II The GMT Master II was made for Pilots. The Explorer II was made for cave dwellers.

2 May 2006, 02:23 AM	#21
dman Lifetime TRF Patron Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Daren Location: Austin Watch: the road Posts: 13,583	They are both identical movements, Johnny is 100% correct. (That was painful to admit!!) __________________ You either get it or you don't, if you have to ask, YOU DON'T!! I really hope that midget cop doesn't find me in Kokomo.

29 April 2006, 11:10 AM	#3
mike "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22,683	Basically fixed bezel on the EXP II vs rotating bezel on the GMT II. Same movement etc... The exp II can be had with a white face.

29 April 2006, 01:29 PM	#8
Mrdi Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PA Posts: 3,478	Looks to me like the Knurl on the bezel is the silly little millimetre difference not the case

30 April 2006, 09:22 PM	#16
TARDIS "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Real Name: Steve Location: Queensland, AUST Posts: 2,003	Nothing really Peter

2 May 2006, 12:17 AM	#17
D4UK Banned Join Date: May 2006 Location: USA Watch: TT SUB LV GMTII Posts: 527	just a little confused then (cause on my GMTII you can't easily move the red 24 hour hand) where as a friend who has the EXPII assures me he can easily move his 24 hour hand. what about on yours?

2 May 2006, 12:42 AM	#20
D4UK Banned Join Date: May 2006 Location: USA Watch: TT SUB LV GMTII Posts: 527	ok. cheers for the info Atomic

2 May 2006, 05:04 AM	#23
D4UK Banned Join Date: May 2006 Location: USA Watch: TT SUB LV GMTII Posts: 527	JJ that was my point - I own the GMT so know how it performs with it's bi-direction 24 hour bezel and the 4th hand but I was led to believe by a EXPII owner that he could independantly move his 4th hand and this made sense as i knew the bezel on the EXPII was fixed

2 May 2006, 12:57 PM	#25
Mrdi Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PA Posts: 3,478	I thought the newest GMTs were able to move the 4th red hour hand w/o moving the minute hand?

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