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Old 25 September 2021, 12:19 AM   #1
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Bad Movies

I've always loved movies and during periods of my life I saw EVERYTHING and other periods hardly anything.

But there were always movies that were panned for various reasons. Some had to do with bloated budgets and bad press and others from bad director cuts, and/or films that were taken away from the director and cut by idiots. Hence the later releases of director cuts which were sometimes better and sometimes worse.

I remember Heavens Gate, was once called the worst film of all time and yet I really liked it, even though Kris Kristofferson was in it. (His movies all seemed to bomb).

Here some movies that bombed but were later classics or cult classics.

https://www.boredpanda.com/biggest-b...mpaign=organic



Here's a bunch of movies that people had a re-think about....

https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/...ign=pockethits
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Old 25 September 2021, 12:30 AM   #2
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No amount of time or “ Cult “ status can fix

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Old 25 September 2021, 12:47 AM   #3
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No amount of time or “ Cult “ status can fix

Xanadu
Agreed.

Any film that starts with an X is a horrific mistake.

Sorry X-Men fans. (and X-file)
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I've never made one, so I can't answer.....
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I've never made one, so I can't answer.....
Kelly's Heroes........a masterpiece.
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but the royalties suck.....
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Shawshank flopped. That is crazy. One of the best movies of all time. Wow. Surprising.
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but the royalties suck.....
Hollywood accounting.
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fight club and almost famous!!!

what?!?!?!?!?
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Old 25 September 2021, 01:03 AM   #10
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fight club and almost famous!!!

what?!?!?!?!?
Amazing isn't it.

And some movies that did great at the box office are later an embarrassment.

Video made a lot of movies cult classics that didn't do well at the theaters due to timing, or how they were promoted.

Citizen Kane flopped.

https://www.insider.com/popular-movi...-flops-2018-11

Another interesting thing to do is to see who won Best Picture Oscars in any given year and see who they beat out. Some of those are incredible as well.

Absolute classics lost to mediocre films that didn't stand the test of time.
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not on the list but wasn't scarface also a flop? was very negatively rated when it came out but now is an iconic classic
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Old 25 September 2021, 01:10 AM   #12
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Anyone work in film and worked on any bad movies?
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Basically any nick cage movie
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Red Dawn got skewered back in the 80s. That was a travesty.

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Red Dawn got skewered back in the 80s. That was a travesty.

WOLVERINES!!!!!!
loved that movie.

classic Swayze.
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The film "Falling Down" I should have realised, I was the only person in the cinema watching it, a full cinema just for me and I fell asleep, it was that bad.
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....... gone in 60 seconds
Should have been his career........but no......it goes on and on and on...
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I saw Heavens Gate in 1982, it was a particularly painful experience

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I've always loved movies and during periods of my life I saw EVERYTHING and other periods hardly anything.

But there were always movies that were panned for various reasons. Some had to do with bloated budgets and bad press and others from bad director cuts, and/or films that were taken away from the director and cut by idiots. Hence the later releases of director cuts which were sometimes better and sometimes worse.

I remember Heavens Gate, was once called the worst film of all time and yet I really liked it, even though Kris Kristofferson was in it. (His movies all seemed to bomb).

Here some movies that bombed but were later classics or cult classics.

https://www.boredpanda.com/biggest-b...mpaign=organic



Here's a bunch of movies that people had a re-think about....

https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/...ign=pockethits
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I hated fight Club. I would have walked out of the theatre except I was with several other people. We all have our preferences.
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Anyone work in film and worked on any bad movies?
Back in the 80s, I worked on the edges of the film industry. Did some location scouting, worked for a small production company doing stills, worked on a few commercials doing stills (still pictures)....

I was buddies with a guy who directed straight-to-video movies that had well know B actors in them. They were often the bad guys or dangerous women in mainstream movies but weren't capable of carrying a top movie on their own. So they did a lot of B movies. David Carradine was one of better known of these guys, although he had some pretty good mainstream success.

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0142587/

They sold in Europe in places but mostly they went straight to video. There were a couple that hit the US box office. Steve did a lot more than that are shown here but a lot were foreign financed and sold only in Europe and never hit the US film distributors.

There are a lot of pieces to the film industry not counting soft porno and XXX which are their own genre.
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Haha if you are a car guy, honestly it is a decent movie. Most people haven't seen him in Lord of War, that is actually one of my favorite movies.
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Bad movies. Now your really in my wheelhouse.
I grew up in the '80s with only small town gas station to rent movies from.

There was Return of the Killer Tomatoes. Starring none other than George Clooney. I bet you he wished no one remembered that.
Surf Nazis must Die.
But if you really want a story line go for Microwave Massacre.

I'm going to give special mention to Tom Hanks first (made for TV) movie lead, Mazes and Monsters.
A story about the evils of games like Dungeons and Dragons.
I like to refer that movie as my generations "Reefer Madness".
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Yeah. I'm sort of a history buff and was interested in the Johnson County Wars.
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I've only walked out of a theatre one time. Not in anger or disgust, but more with a, 'do I really want to spend another hour watching this?' kind of feeling. Fortunately, the person I was with was felt the same so we made for the exit.

Turns out, the film is a favorite of many, but I found it nothing short of awful.
Different strokes, you know.

Tried watching it on TV some years later, just to see if maybe I had judged it too harshly, but I came away thinking I hadn't.
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Haha if you are a car guy, honestly it is a decent movie. Most people haven't seen him in Lord of War, that is actually one of my favorite movies.
lol i actually watched lord of war a while ago, was a very weird/interesting movie. don't remember much besides that, might have to rewatch it. just remember i totally expected something different going into that one
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The film "Falling Down" I should have realised, I was the only person in the cinema watching it, a full cinema just for me and I fell asleep, it was that bad.
That is one of my favorite films, but I must admit that many of my favorite films aren't that popular with the masses.

"Bottle Rocket" is a good example.
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