The Rolex Submariner (vintage)

[SOG DIVER]

An excellent source.
The 5512 Submariner had its entrance about 1959, and was seen with COSC
chronometer certification after the 5513 was issued. Many 5512 case backs are stamped 5513. Many parts were interchangeable on the two references.
Reference Points: the Submariner by Hodinkee and Eric Wind point out many of these subtle differences. But, as with all things Rolex-there are exceptions.

[SOG DIVER]

Originally Posted by SOG DIVER

An excellent source.
The 5512 Submariner had its entrance about 1959, and was seen with COSC
chronometer certification after the 5513 was issued. Many 5512 case backs are stamped 5513. Many parts were interchangeable on the two references.
Reference Points: the Submariner by Hodinkee and Eric Wind point out many of these subtle differences. But, as with all things Rolex-there are exceptions.

The 1959-- 5512 Submariner was the first to feature crown guards- initially
in blocked ends, then pointed (PCG) form, finally closely shaped in the crown guard style we see today. The 5512 reference initially appeared from 1959-through roughly 1963 with gilt dial and minute track or chapter ring. That minute track/chapter ring was discontinued during the mid-1960s. The non-date 5512 with chapter ring/gilt dial and COSC chronometer certification is unique watch, especially with the caliber 1560 movement and gilt dial.
1959-1979: Twenty years of the 5512 Submariner.

Having owned a 1969 red 1680 Submariner along with this same 1960
5512 Submariner: I have been fortunate indeed to discover both of these iconic watches and to own them.

{For an in-depth look at dials,crown guards, hands, and inserts of early Submariners...see the site : RolexHaven }

[50L]

These golden lumes are amazing. Thats why I also love and have the tudor bb58

[SOG DIVER]

If the rest of this 1680 reference is original, it would not be too difficult to bring it back
to close to " as issued." It is a nice watch.

[jatco]

Originally Posted by SOG DIVER

If the rest of this 1680 reference is original, it would not be too difficult to bring it back
to close to " as issued." It is a nice watch.

That's my train of thought..
The bezel certainly looks acceptable to the normals.. The Bracelet I'm not sure about as far as being spec. But so many ppl have modified originals to their own tastes. You could make this 'your own'... - just sayin'

[Paul Allen's Rolex]

Interesting, true. I guess it's not like I intend to buy it as an 'investment'. I want to wear it and enjoy it, so having it as my own unique piece could work. I'm going to view it in a few days so I can find out more about it then. Perhaps I can just wear it on a strap as my field watch.

[jatco]

Originally Posted by Paul Allen's Rolex

Interesting, true. I guess it's not like I intend to buy it as an 'investment'. I want to wear it and enjoy it, so having it as my own unique piece could work. I'm going to view it in a few days so I can find out more about it then. Perhaps I can just wear it on a strap as my field watch.

Good luck with your decision..Look foward to see a pic of it then...

[GONZO2LR]

can't really see the pictures...they have watermark or whatever so you can't reprint....it's just pictures of watches...a waste of time...seriously...it's a watch...

[Ledman]

First time poster. I’m Original owner and wearer of date Sub which is due for some maintenance. I like it being vintage but after 35+ years of daily use the oyster bracelet stretched too much being risky to wear so replaced a few years ago with Everest band. The dial is like to keep as is and dials. But the crystal and bezel have seen better days. Thoughts ?

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[996marty]

Originally Posted by Ledman

First time poster. I’m Original owner and wearer of date Sub which is due for some maintenance. I like it being vintage but after 35+ years of daily use the oyster bracelet stretched too much being risky to wear so replaced a few years ago with Everest band. The dial is like to keep as is and dials. But the crystal and bezel have seen better days. Thoughts ?

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Maybe post it in the vintage section you might get a better response.
For me they look great for being used I’d just get it serviced and get the bracelet looked at

[Dan77]

Hello and good evening

Hope this question is ok

I have this 16800 with glossy dial that has turned into a bit of matte look and with heavy patina (Pumpkin like)

What makes the dial turn matte and what gives this strong patina to plots and hands? Could it be moisture or something else.

See pictures - and does every thing on the dial looks fine?

Thanks for your knowledge, experince and comments👏