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26 November 2017, 04:27 AM | #361 |
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26 November 2017, 04:31 AM | #362 | |
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It should also be noted that on the other thread I eluded to the moderator states that "personal preferences" are implemented as the " owner sets the tone". Their are several specific rules described that you list but there also exists a subjective criteria under which people can get banned. The rules that are listed are hard and fast rules and then there are the preferences, decisions, and judgement of the moderators. We participate at our own discretion, we view the content through our own lens, we respond to banishing and deletions on our own terms, but the moderators run the site. With that I will once again revert to a protracted state of lurker. Cheers! |
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26 November 2017, 04:37 AM | #363 |
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I'm not a mod, so I can't answer the question. I believe, you have somewhat found your answer. It's the sole disgression of the moderator...
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26 November 2017, 04:42 AM | #364 | |
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"5ii(b): Questioning the deletion of a thread -- 12 points" I'll see myself out...
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26 November 2017, 05:01 AM | #365 |
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26 November 2017, 05:14 AM | #366 |
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I could be wrong, but I don't think the banning was due to criticism of an AD allegedly going back on their promise to deliver a sought after watch to a customer.
I think the posts devolved into complete lunacy with the claims that the same AD was taking hard to get watches and literally selling them on their pre owned website at a substantial markup. The witch hunt mentality with which these assertions were received, without any real proof is what led to the banning. An honest well known AD had their reputation libeled as result of an admitted screw up on the part of a salesperson and the rampant posting here afterwards... |
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26 November 2017, 05:57 AM | #368 |
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I have stayed quiet and will continue to but please dont make claims that a salesperson who has worked at the store for 10 plus years went rogue and came up with this proposed deal on her own. I dont plan to comment anymore but that is not fair to her.
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26 November 2017, 06:33 AM | #370 | |
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I have questioned the terms under which actions are taken. I do so trying to determine if it is worth spending the time to author and submit my views if only to risk having the entire thread disappear. I wouldn't have thought this an existential line of inquiry. If you can identify any instance to the contrary please remind me as it was not my intent. I have been respectful and cordial throughout. Once again thank you and cheers, but please don't tarnish me for the totally of what others have said. |
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26 November 2017, 06:47 AM | #371 | |
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26 November 2017, 07:09 AM | #372 | |
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As a humorous aside, I am getting the impression that this will be another thread that goes on for 28 pages, and ultimately gets expunged.
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Hi Russell, Karl was a popular member on here, and it’s commendable that you’re supporting him as I know you are friends, but the mods have their reasons and I’m sure their decision to ban him wasn’t taken lightly. As a friendly comment I’d suggest you accept the decision.
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26 November 2017, 08:09 AM | #376 |
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Fair enough. I retract that last statement.
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Karl is a friend and I do believe in supporting friends if and when I believe they have been badly treated. However, to be honest it is the Forum and protecting the integrity of PP brand in particular that have always been central to any post I have made. Knowing Karl the integrity of the PP brand is also central to all his posts - not withstanding a wicked sense of humour in the mix at times. If Karl stepped over the line and deserved a warning followed by a ban then no problem - but that shouldn’t stop Forum members questioning the decision when a permanent ban is in place and as I understand it no warnings were given. You will well remember ‘Brian’ and the accusations levelled at me over an enamel piece - well Brian was totally out of order but at no point did I call for him to be banned! People with a watch passion should always be welcomed and if they step out of line there appears to be a clearly laid down warning procedure to calm everything down again - if warnings are ignored well then we all know the outcome. |
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26 November 2017, 10:16 AM | #380 |
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Karl was warned to move on, he chose to ignore that request and continued his vendetta.
Govberg admitted it made a mistake. As to the collateral sale of jewellery with a watch, some don't like that, but the reality is that happens. Its happened to me with a local retailer, I chose not to proceed, but I didn't go on some campaign to try to bring the retailer down. I got over it. We all have to realise that just because we have the money (retail price) to buy a watch that does not 'entitle' us to buy it. There are many desirable watches where demand out-strips supply. If you really want a watch and can't get it from a retailer then pay thousands more from a grey-market dealer and enjoy it, but don't cry about the retailer who wont sell a watch to you for retail without any strings attached. Trolls and negativity will not be tolerated.
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As mods have said it has happened too much on the PP forum and no surprise that on this and the other expensive forum, RM, some members find it hard to accept they are NOT the boss. |
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Ok, well I started this thread off, without meaning anything special about Govberg, and only highlighting how high 5711 pricing had gotten. The thread is certainly way off topic now, and I, for one, would be more than happy to have it closed.
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In the words of the modern classic Frozen let it go?
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Much respect to the mods but as Ken said “mike got hosed” end of story. File that in your brains and move along
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