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Old 28 May 2011, 08:27 AM   #1
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"Beware" Tourist dies after failed mugging for Rolex in Naples

A Puerto Rican tourist who had just disembarked from his cruise ship in Naples is fighting for his life following brain surgery after being attacked by muggers, the Associated Press reports.

Oscar Antonio Mendoza was walking from the port in Naples when two muggers on a motor scooter tried to take his Rolex, Police Major Paolo Zito told the Associated Press.

When Mendoza refused to give up the watch, the robbers pushed him to the ground and fled. Upon falling, Mendoza hit his head.


He underwent brain surgery at Naples' Loreto Mare hospital where his doctor, Maria Corvino, said the prognosis is guarded.

Napoli officials warn visitors not to wear expensive jewelry when wandering the streets.

In 2009, the Italian city instituted the Escodentro Project, where ex-cons assist tourists with directions and guide them around town to ensure they aren't harmed. (The above photo is of a drug offender providing directions to tourists in Naples in September 2009).



UPDATE 5/27: The 66-year old Mendoza has died of his injuries following the attack, the AP reported today.

His doctor, Dr. Maurizo Postiglione, head of intensive care at the hospital, told the AP via phone that Mendoza failed to regain consciousness after falling. He suffered multiple brain contusions. The Puerto Rican tourist was with his wife when the attack occurred.


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Old 28 May 2011, 08:31 AM   #2
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Heard this elsewhere, but doesn't make it any less sickening.

Hope they catch the scum

RIP Mr Mendoza
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Old 28 May 2011, 08:46 AM   #3
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Heard this elsewhere, but doesn't make it any less sickening.

Hope they catch the scum

RIP Mr Mendoza
I am really mad over the fact that Mr. Mendoza probably didn't know that he would be assisted by Ex-cons when he got off of the ship. It brings home the fact that it could be anyone of us that loves to wear our Rolex watches everywhere we go. Now this really will make me think twice when I see a thread on this forum that ask the question ( IS IT SAFE TO WEAR YOUR ROLEX HERE AND THERE?)
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Old 28 May 2011, 08:57 AM   #4
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If you are not able and willing to calmly hand over your watch to a mugger then you are WEARING A WATCH YOU CAN NOT AFFORD. The watch clearly means too much too you...beyond what a watch you can afford should mean to you in a life threatening situation.
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Old 28 May 2011, 09:01 AM   #5
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If you are not able and willing to calmly hand over your watch to a mugger then you are WEARING A WATCH YOU CAN NOT AFFORD. The watch clearly means too much too you...beyond what a watch you can afford should mean to you in a life threatening situation.

I beg to differ.
I'll be calling to police and telling them the coroner should show up too.
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Old 28 May 2011, 09:10 AM   #6
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If you are not able and willing to calmly hand over your watch to a mugger then you are WEARING A WATCH YOU CAN NOT AFFORD. The watch clearly means too much too you...beyond what a watch you can afford should mean to you in a life threatening situation.
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I beg to differ.
I'll be calling to police and telling them the coroner should show up too.
At some point society has to push back...
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Old 28 May 2011, 12:52 PM   #7
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I beg to differ.
I'll be calling to police and telling them the coroner should show up too.
Unfortunately in some countries, defending yourself (regardless of the tool) means you've committed a greater crime than your attacker/thief.
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Old 28 May 2011, 01:35 PM   #8
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I beg to differ.
I'll be calling to police and telling them the coroner should show up too.
Yup, me too...if they want my watch, they can meet my 45...and say good bye
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Old 28 May 2011, 09:13 AM   #9
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If you are not able and willing to calmly hand over your watch to a mugger then you are WEARING A WATCH YOU CAN NOT AFFORD. The watch clearly means too much too you...beyond what a watch you can afford should mean to you in a life threatening situation.
I would have to disagree with you on this. You're right in all senses where the person should give up their watch without any issues to save their own lives but that is your opinion.

Maybe, Mr. Mendoza had a special relationship/history/whatever with this watch. I've heard a lot of people saying that comment but it is really biased. Some people will refuse to be a victim. If I was at my own home, and someone wanted to rob me for my watch, I would reach for my G26 and seal the deal on that meow.

If I was in Mr. Mendoza's situation, I would've handed it over without a problem since I was travelling in an area I'm not comfortable with.

In the end, it has nothing to do with being able to afford a watch.
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Old 28 May 2011, 09:18 AM   #10
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I would disagree with you on this. Maybe someone just will not themselves to be robbed. You're right in all senses where the person should give up their watch without any issues to save their own lives.

Maybe, Mr. Mendoza had a special relationship/history/whatever with this watch. I've heard a lot of people saying that comment but some people will refuse to be the victim.

Personally, I would've handed it over without a problem. For others, they might feel differently. In the end, it was nothing to do with being able to afford a watch.
I also disagree, I would never hand over my watch
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I would have to disagree with you on this. You're right in all senses where the person should give up their watch without any issues to save their own lives but that is your opinion.

Maybe, Mr. Mendoza had a special relationship/history/whatever with this watch. I've heard a lot of people saying that comment but it is really biased. Some people will refuse to be a victim. If I was at my own home, and someone wanted to rob me for my watch, I would reach for my G26 and seal the deal on that meow.

If I was in Mr. Mendoza's situation, I would've handed it over without a problem since I was travelling in an area I'm not comfortable with.

In the end, it has nothing to do with being able to afford a watch.
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Old 28 May 2011, 02:57 PM   #12
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If you are not able and willing to calmly hand over your watch to a mugger then you are WEARING A WATCH YOU CAN NOT AFFORD. The watch clearly means too much too you...beyond what a watch you can afford should mean to you in a life threatening situation.
yeah i dont know about this. obviously the watch is not worth your life. but the idea of someone just taking something from you would drive anyone nuts.
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I am really mad over the fact that Mr. Mendoza probably didn't know that he would be assisted by Ex-cons when he got off of the ship. It brings home the fact that it could be anyone of us that loves to wear our Rolex watches everywhere we go. Now this really will make me think twice when I see a thread on this forum that ask the question ( IS IT SAFE TO WEAR YOUR ROLEX HERE AND THERE?)
This was posted in the Open Disc section....but at any rate, this is horrible. Having said that, the "Is it safe to wear your Rolex ______ threads are akin to the "What is an average AD discount" thread. Fairly meaningless as the answers will vary wildly and will differ for each person and circumstance.

How can you say it is safe or not safe to wear your Rolex in country X or city Y? Too many variables.
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I am really mad over the fact that Mr. Mendoza probably didn't know that he would be assisted by Ex-cons when he got off of the ship. It brings home the fact that it could be anyone of us that loves to wear our Rolex watches everywhere we go. Now this really will make me think twice when I see a thread on this forum that ask the question ( IS IT SAFE TO WEAR YOUR ROLEX HERE AND THERE?)
In a world where the number of have nots are increasing, is it really safe to flaunt anything? I am sometimes a little fearful in some areas around my office. The neighborhood has it's share of bums/beggars and wanna be con men.
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I have been all over that city w/o trouble. This can happen anywhere.
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Old 28 May 2011, 10:28 AM   #16
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I have traveled to different places good and bad and have thought about this... If I was unfortunate to be in that situation I would handover my watch and even wind it for the bastard if that keeps me alive.. Nothing is worth the trouble specially when you have family... Sad to hear bad news like this but it happens even in the best places.
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Do you mean freedom? Freedom to travel? Freedom to walk about unmolested? Things like that?

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Old 28 May 2011, 10:48 AM   #19
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I'm sorry to hear about this. IMO, a watch is not worth fighting one or more muggers over - that's what insurance is for.
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Old 28 May 2011, 11:36 AM   #20
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I hope people aren't seriously suggesting that material goods should ever take priority in a danger situation where one's life could be at risk.
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Old 28 May 2011, 11:40 AM   #21
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I am totally sorry if by posting this thread it led to who will do what and when. The point I was trying to make was it could have been anyone of us traveling abroad and not knowing what new policies a foriegn city has put in place like (Ex-cons assisting 66 year old Tourists). I am pretty sure Mr. Mendoza didn't value his watch over his life, the report said that he refused and was then pushed, it was a split second decision on his part. Now if the report said that he was receiving a beating and then refused, I would say that he valued his watch. For those of us who have and will take cruises, this serves as a reminder to always be aware of your surroundings nomatter how nice it is or how frequently you have been there, "Things Change".
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I am totally sorry if by posting this thread it led to who will do what and when. The point I was trying to make was it could have been anyone of us traveling abroad and not knowing what new policies a foriegn city has put in place like (Ex-cons assisting 66 year old Tourists). I am pretty sure Mr. Mendoza didn't value his watch over his life, the report said that he refused and was then pushed, it was a split second decision on his part. Now if the report said that he was receiving a beating and then refused, I would say that he valued his watch. For those of us who have and will take cruises, this serves as a reminder to always be aware of your surroundings nomatter how nice it is or how frequently you have been there, "Things Change".
Agreed! It could happen to any of us. In a flash of second! We weren't there so we don't know exactly how it went down. I'm sure anyone would put up a resistance if some unknown stranger was trying to grab at your wrist. I feel bad for the poor chap, hopefully he will poor through.
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Old 28 May 2011, 12:41 PM   #24
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Wow I am going on a cruise to Bermuda on Sunday, and I do plan to wear my Rolex there. The thing is that the way I was raised I dont trust anyone, if anyone comes up to me and asks if I want a tour of the island I would be questioning the situation already. Its a shame about Mr. Mendoza, it pisses me off when these shmucks attack an elderly person. I feel bad for his wife who has probably been with him for a long time and now has to adjust to a new way of life in her late 60's. My partners grandfather had a YG Day Date, which was stolen rom him in the early 80's outside a supermarket in South Florida. The thugs pushed him to the ground and took the watch right off his wrist. It might have been a good thing I read this thread before my cruise, its reminds me to be extra careful in an unfamilair place. RIP Mr. Mendoza.
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Its funny to hear peoples responses to this kind of tragedy. Think about it in real life for a minute though. Most people are not even aware they are getting mugged when they are infact being mugged. If you are walking down the street and I walk up to you and say give me your watch, are you just going to take it off and hand it to me? Doubt it. Now If I have a gun you will, or if I have a knife but what if I have nothing but my fist. I bet you will just look at me until I punch you out or in this case push you to the ground so you hit your head. Fact is most people think its a joke until they get injured or killed then its real. People rarely hand over their valuables unless there is a weapon and muggers rarely use weapons now a days because it adds 10 to life on the sentence. No, people that are willing to mug you can almost certainly kick the crap out of you or they would not try it in the first place. So its not a matter of this guy was a hero, or an idiot. He probably thought it was all a joke as most victims do. What happened to him was not his fault. He did not have a choice of the Rolex or his life, he only had the choice of the rolex. Most would say no.
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Its funny to hear peoples responses to this kind of tragedy. Think about it in real life for a minute though. Most people are not even aware they are getting mugged when they are infact being mugged. If you are walking down the street and I walk up to you and say give me your watch, are you just going to take it off and hand it to me? Doubt it. Now If I have a gun you will, or if I have a knife but what if I have nothing but my fist. I bet you will just look at me until I punch you out or in this case push you to the ground so you hit your head. Fact is most people think its a joke until they get injured or killed then its real. People rarely hand over their valuables unless there is a weapon and muggers rarely use weapons now a days because it adds 10 to life on the sentence. No, people that are willing to mug you can almost certainly kick the crap out of you or they would not try it in the first place. So its not a matter of this guy was a hero, or an idiot. He probably thought it was all a joke as most victims do. What happened to him was not his fault. He did not have a choice of the Rolex or his life, he only had the choice of the rolex. Most would say no.
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Its funny to hear peoples responses to this kind of tragedy. Think about it in real life for a minute though. Most people are not even aware they are getting mugged when they are infact being mugged. If you are walking down the street and I walk up to you and say give me your watch, are you just going to take it off and hand it to me? Doubt it. Now If I have a gun you will, or if I have a knife but what if I have nothing but my fist. I bet you will just look at me until I punch you out or in this case push you to the ground so you hit your head. Fact is most people think its a joke until they get injured or killed then its real. People rarely hand over their valuables unless there is a weapon and muggers rarely use weapons now a days because it adds 10 to life on the sentence. No, people that are willing to mug you can almost certainly kick the crap out of you or they would not try it in the first place. So its not a matter of this guy was a hero, or an idiot. He probably thought it was all a joke as most victims do. What happened to him was not his fault. He did not have a choice of the Rolex or his life, he only had the choice of the rolex. Most would say no.
Your absolutely right These muggers were cowards. They beat a 66 year old man I bet they would'nt have pulled that shit when he was 20 years Younger strongarmed robbers are such bitchs they only go after the weak and old. It's so sad I mean your taught to protect the elderly and people that are weak. They probaly rushed him from behind then demanded his watch he fought back probaly sliped and then well. At least he fought back though these people will always be thought of as cowards.But the victim will always be though of as a Man.
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It is unfortunate that things like this happen and even more unfortunate that they will continue to happen, and can happen anywhere at anytime.
IMO valuable personal property, cars, houses, expensive wristwatches etc. should be insured. If an assailant brandishes a handgun, hand over the merchandise, file a police report and insurance claim.
Now, if said assailant does the exact same moves as your training partner in your quasi- seal team 6, mall ninja training class, then you may choose to do the moves you were taught, disarm the bloke and call the coroner.
But, this is not the old west, attackers don't usually say to you, O.K. when the clock strikes the third bell, we'll both draw and the winner takes the Rolex. Some watch too many movies. There is a big difference in being brave, being a coward, being smart, and being daft. Fin
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It is unfortunate that things like this happen and even more unfortunate that they will continue to happen, and can happen anywhere at anytime.
IMO valuable personal property, cars, houses, expensive wristwatches etc. should be insured. If an assailant brandishes a handgun, hand over the merchandise, file a police report and insurance claim.
Now, if said assailant does the exact same moves as your training partner in your quasi- seal team 6, mall ninja training class, then you may choose to do the moves you were taught, disarm the bloke and call the coroner.
But, this is not the old west, attackers don't usually say to you, O.K. when the clock strikes the third bell, we'll both draw and the winner takes the Rolex. Some watch too many movies. There is a big difference in being brave, being a coward, being smart, and being daft. Fin
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