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[TheVision]

I already own the sub and got bored with it pretty quick...don't get me wrong. it's a watch that will outlast ya in terms of robustness and accurcy but the fact that it's not a strap monster and pretty much all black with a solid caseback, there's not a whole bunch going on from a horological perspective.

As someone who wore a Seiko Tuna most of my life (with rubber/custom leather straps), I've started looking at Panerai...if ya want solid wrist presence with plethora of strap options, ya can't beat Panerai, not to mention the radiomir and luminor are classic designs.