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Old 14 October 2016, 01:38 PM   #1
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Leaving My Job

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Tomorrow is the day that I sit down with my boss and let her know that I am leaving the company. A new opportunity has been presented to me that I cannot turn down. As I am not a believer in closing doors or burning bridges, my #1 priority is to leave on good terms. I will be 100% honest about why I am leaving and offer to do everything that I can in order to make my departure as painless as possible (stay 3 weeks, work extended hours, come in on the weekends, train my replacement, etc...).

I know it is silly, but the guilt is definitely hitting hard right now. I love my team and I hate to think about letting them down. I'd hope that they understand and support my decision to leave, but a part of me fears that they'll take it the wrong way. A co-worker left last week so I know that my timing isn't ideal, but given my responsibilities and my involvement in just about everything, I don't think there will ever be a good time for me to leave. I am sure you all can relate.

I never thought I'd feel like this, but here I am. Am I alone?

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Old 14 October 2016, 01:47 PM   #2
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Nope. I think about my people every day when I think about leaving the firm. I have been here for a long time and have built a very good and loyal following but my day will come sooner rather than later as well.

I have a bunch of folks that have said that wherever I go they will go and though I appreciate that it makes my decision even harder. As I feel like it is not just me and my family I have to worry about but my employees and their families as well. Exactly what I need, extra pressure to make the right decision. .

Really makes me do my homework extra hard.

Good luck in your new opportunity Wes. I am sure you will do great and never burn the bridge.


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Old 14 October 2016, 01:49 PM   #3
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You're doing what's best for you and your family. If they don't understand that, then I wouldn't worry about the bridge left behind! Congrats and sounds like you're taking the honorable approach here.
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Old 14 October 2016, 01:52 PM   #4
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I applaud your integrity and spirit. Your employer must have treated you well and is fortunate to have you.
Congrats in advance on the new opportunity.

Afraid I can't say the same about mine - the type that cuts back on employees to fund/splurge on personal toys and vacations. Last year they denied a new hire's year end bonus on the premise that she was FT for only 11 months as the prior 3 month probation didnt count. Said employer then buys a Benz S Class and Lexus RC F for himself, then goes on a two week Italian getaway.
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Old 14 October 2016, 01:52 PM   #5
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Congrats on the new opportunity Wes.

I have left for greener pastures several times. A company cannot expect you to be there forever. You are an employee after all, and you own your destiny.

Giving plenty of notice and working an effective transition and continuity plan for your departure is the best you can do when it's time to leave.
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Old 14 October 2016, 01:59 PM   #6
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Sorry to be cold but in 3 weeks they won't remember you. IMO the only thing that really matters in this life is family and very close friends. I have worked at small and large companies - no one was ever missed for more than a few days after leaving. Take care of your family - that is what matters.

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Old 14 October 2016, 02:01 PM   #7
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All I can say is- Love your job but don't love your company, because you may not know when your company stops loving you" - Dr. APJ Abdul Kalam.

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Old 14 October 2016, 02:01 PM   #8
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Congrats on the new opportunity.

I have never had a problem leaving a company for a better opportunity but I have felt bad for leaving a boss or two and team members.

I feel like its important to leave on good terms whenever possible and never burn bridges. No matter how large your industry is, it's still a small world.
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Old 14 October 2016, 02:02 PM   #9
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Any good manager will not only understand but will support your decision. It's absolutely normal to feel guilty, but managing your own career and developmental growth is priority #1, therefore do not let it get to you.

Cheers and congrats on your new endevor!

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Old 14 October 2016, 03:11 PM   #10
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...but given my responsibilities and my involvement in just about everything, I don't think there will ever be a good time for me to leave...
That sentence says it all. No matter when this happens it will be hard on them. So do what YOU have to do and don't look back.
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Old 14 October 2016, 03:16 PM   #11
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A good boss will be sad to see a good employee go, but will also encourage that employee to seek better opportunities.

If a boss is sad enough to see an employee go, that boss will start negotiating a better situation in that company.

You're right to keep all options open by leaving on good terms.

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Old 14 October 2016, 03:30 PM   #12
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Guys,

Tomorrow is the day that I sit down with my boss and let her know that I am leaving the company. A new opportunity has been presented to me that I cannot turn down. As I am not a believer in closing doors or burning bridges, my #1 priority is to leave on good terms. I will be 100% honest about why I am leaving and offer to do everything that I can in order to make my departure as painless as possible (stay 3 weeks, work extended hours, come in on the weekends, train my replacement, etc...).

I know it is silly, but the guilt is definitely hitting hard right now. I love my team and I hate to think about letting them down. I'd hope that they understand and support my decision to leave, but a part of me fears that they'll take it the wrong way. A co-worker left last week so I know that my timing isn't ideal, but given my responsibilities and my involvement in just about everything, I don't think there will ever be a good time for me to leave. I am sure you all can relate.

I never thought I'd feel like this, but here I am. Am I alone?

Best,
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its not silly and you're not alone.

i agree with the love your job and not your company comment and with keeping options open; its a fact of life today and true professionals would accept the non-personal realities.

and, if you didn't feel the way you appear to be feeling - you'd be an asshole.

since you're clearly not an asshole, your boss would hopefully wish you the best as you will likely wish your colleagues.

good luck!
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Old 14 October 2016, 03:35 PM   #13
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What if your current employer makes you a very generous offer to stay? Would you consider it or your mind is already made up? I've been in the situation and boy it was tough.
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Old 14 October 2016, 03:41 PM   #14
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What if your current employer makes you a very generous offer to stay? Would you consider it or your mind is already made up? I've been in the situation and boy it was tough.
good Q but its been well documented by HRM pros and CEO's that that is only a bandaid solution.

most leave within 12 months of the counter offer.
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Old 14 October 2016, 04:17 PM   #15
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Nope. I think about my people every day when I think about leaving the firm. I have been here for a long time and have built a very good and loyal following but my day will come sooner rather than later as well.

I have a bunch of folks that have said that wherever I go they will go and though I appreciate that it makes my decision even harder. As I feel like it is not just me and my family I have to worry about but my employees and their families as well. Exactly what I need, extra pressure to make the right decision. .

Really makes me do my homework extra hard.

Good luck in your new opportunity Wes. I am sure you will do great and never burn the bridge.


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Thanks, Brandon.

Funny you should mention that. When my co-worker left, we had a meeting to discuss his departure. After the meeting, somebody told me that if I leave, they wouldn't know what to do. "Great..." I thought to myself.


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You're doing what's best for you and your family. If they don't understand that, then I wouldn't worry about the bridge left behind! Congrats and sounds like you're taking the honorable approach here.
Thanks! I'm trying to. I just hope there are no hard feelings.

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I applaud your integrity and spirit. Your employer must have treated you well and is fortunate to have you.
Congrats in advance on the new opportunity.

Afraid I can't say the same about mine - the type that cuts back on employees to fund/splurge on personal toys and vacations. Last year they denied a new hire's year end bonus on the premise that she was FT for only 11 months as the prior 3 month probation didnt count. Said employer then buys a Benz S Class and Lexus RC F for himself, then goes on a two week Italian getaway.
Thank you! My company has been ok. My coworkers have been great.

I am sorry to hear about your situation. That stinks. It sounds like your employer doesn't care about employee retention. That will be very damaging in the long run.

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Congrats on the new opportunity Wes.

I have left for greener pastures several times. A company cannot expect you to be there forever. You are an employee after all, and you own your destiny.

Giving plenty of notice and working an effective transition and continuity plan for your departure is the best you can do when it's time to leave.
Thanks! Yes, I do believe that most companies know their employees are always looking for the next best thing. Like I said, I will do everything that I can to make my departure painless.

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Sorry to be cold but in 3 weeks they won't remember you. IMO the only thing that really matters in this life is family and very close friends. I have worked at small and large companies - no one was ever missed for more than a few days after leaving. Take care of your family - that is what matters.

Remember, the king is dead, long live the king.
LOL. I'd like to think that I've left enough of an impression that people would remember me after 3 weeks, but maybe you're right. Maybe I am not as memorable as I think I am.
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Old 14 October 2016, 04:36 PM   #16
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Congrats on the new opportunity and you have got to look to the future for you and your family, moving forward is more rewarding the standing still!

Anyway I'm sure the captain will find a suitable helmsman to replace you
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Old 14 October 2016, 04:38 PM   #17
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All I can say is- Love your job but don't love your company, because you may not know when your company stops loving you" - Dr. APJ Abdul Kalam.

Take the leap man!!
Very well said. The people make the company, the company does not make the people.

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Congrats on the new opportunity.

I have never had a problem leaving a company for a better opportunity but I have felt bad for leaving a boss or two and team members.

I feel like its important to leave on good terms whenever possible and never burn bridges. No matter how large your industry is, it's still a small world.
Thanks. And you're right. It's a small world indeed. I always try to keep in mind that one wrong move now could bite me in the ass down the line.

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Any good manager will not only understand but will support your decision. It's absolutely normal to feel guilty, but managing your own career and developmental growth is priority #1, therefore do not let it get to you.

Cheers and congrats on your new endevor!

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Thanks. I hope you're right!

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That sentence says it all. No matter when this happens it will be hard on them. So do what YOU have to do and don't look back.
Yup, you're right. Thanks.

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A good boss will be sad to see a good employee go, but will also encourage that employee to seek better opportunities.

If a boss is sad enough to see an employee go, that boss will start negotiating a better situation in that company.

You're right to keep all options open by leaving on good terms.

Good luck.
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its not silly and you're not alone.

i agree with the love your job and not your company comment and with keeping options open; its a fact of life today and true professionals would accept the non-personal realities.

and, if you didn't feel the way you appear to be feeling - you'd be an asshole.

since you're clearly not an asshole, your boss would hopefully wish you the best as you will likely wish your colleagues.

good luck!
Thanks. And if my boss calls me an asshole, then I'll definitely know that I am making the right move!

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What if your current employer makes you a very generous offer to stay? Would you consider it or your mind is already made up? I've been in the situation and boy it was tough.
I don't think so. I know for a fact that my current employer will not match what my new employer is offering. However, for the sake of conversation, assuming my boss went to bat for me and the company makes me a great offer (keep in mind, all offers must be reviewed/approved by the CEO) and I stay, if I ever decide to leave again, my boss will look like a fool. I'd hate to do that.

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good Q but its been well documented by HRM pros and CEO's that that is only a bandaid solution.

most leave within 12 months of the counter offer.
Exactly. I am not opposed to the possibility of coming back one day, but I'll cross that bridge should the day ever come. For now, it's time to go.
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Old 14 October 2016, 04:39 PM   #18
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Congrats on the new opportunity and you have got to look to the future for you and your family, moving forward is more rewarding the standing still!

Anyway I'm sure the captain will find a suitable helmsman to replace you
Thanks, Sam! And thanks for the laugh.
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Old 14 October 2016, 04:43 PM   #19
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You've thought this through, all terrific answers! All the best in your new venture, which no doubt you will do very well in.
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Thanks, Sam! And thanks for the laugh.
Sorry after reading my post again it could be conceived I was belittling your question with a joke!

I've only ever worked for a small business and that was for a coupe of years before going self-employed when I left it wasn't the smoothest as due to the small size they had to find a replacement very fast and actually didn't want me to work out my notice which didn't really matter as I remember taking a months wages in my first week of being on my own.

Moving forward a few months and they started passing me work and then within a year the two owners fell out and went their separate ways. Both set up similar type of businesses and one again carried on passing me work.

I've been my own boss ever since (until I got married) all I can say is you must keep progressing but it's good to see the manner in which you want to do it rather then dropping them in it so to speak!
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Coming from a business owner perspective (albeit a small one) I can tell, just by reading your post, you are the type of employee I would miss.

Good people are the life boood.

But it is your life and you have to do what is best for you.

Do as you say, act with integrity. Even if they are disappointed, they will understand, and respect you for the way you are handling it.
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Best of luck in your new opportunity Wes.

As stated above, you have to look out for yourself and do what's best for you and your family. I'm sure your boss will understand.

Don't be surprised if they make you a better offer ... Stranger things have happened and especially in lieu of your colleague leaving. Would you you stay then?
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Life is a series of doors closing and others opening. It can be hard, but making these decisions is what advances your career. Best of luck.

It can be scary, but doing it will remain in your memory as a gutsy act. And definitely leave on the best terms you can.
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Move on. Don't feel guilty. Anyone who hates on you for leaving for a better opportunity doesnt deserve to have you as an employee anyway.

Dont accept any counter offer. Just my 2 cents.
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Like others have said. Once the decision is made, do it. Don't second guess yourself. It's a rarity for someone to spend their entire career at one company these days. Do what's best for you.
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Like others have said. Once the decision is made, do it. Don't second guess yourself. It's a rarity for someone to spend their entire career at one company these days. Do what's best for you.
indeed, unless you make it to the tippy top.
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Leaving My Job

Are you leaving to go with a competing firm?
Was a GM at a company with strict policy: if one left for a competitor = immediate departure.
Nobody took it wrong and it actually helped morale as everyone pitched-in to bridge the gap. No moping around or "sorry you're leaving" remorse.

It sounds cold but worked best for all involved. We would gather at a bar for a farewell that night and then hit the desks hard the next AM.


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Congrats on the new opportunity! I'm in the same boat as you. I put my 3 week notice in 2 weeks ago. The bosses were shocked because that's 4 people that have left in the last month. They even asked me what they personally need to do to retain people. I wasn't shy about my thoughts. They haven't even posted my position yet so I don't have a replacement to train. I've been instructed to make notes on EVERYTHING that I do. It's been a tedious task but, like you, don't want to burn bridges so am doing my best. Hang in there and good luck in the new position!
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congratulations on the new opportunity ,, nice to see some one doing the right thing , in both moving on for personal betterment , and in respect of the company your leaving ,
good luck in the future.
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Congrats on the new opportunity, Wes Not much can be added to all that was said above really. All the best to you
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