Can I offer the AD’s salesperson a cash “Tip” on the side for helping me get my watch

[Desibaba]

what if I offered the sales lady a cash “Tip” of $5k on the side for “Expediting” this process for me. I have no problem with discretely making this offer to her. And that $5k is of course negotiable depending on her needs.

I am looking to purchase a new panda from an AD. I have zero Rolex AD purchase history and refuse to buy products I don’t want or need just to make myself eligible for a Panda.

[messikens]

Found the link to your cash "tip"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bribery

[No SUBctitute]

Originally Posted by messikens

Found the link to your cash "tip"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bribery

LMAO. I just spit out my wine. You get post of the week.

[Tylerlsu2008]

Lol

[physicist]

Sure, why not?

[Giovannibravo]

Please let us know how this goes.


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[Alpharettaristi]

Originally Posted by Desibaba

what if I offered the sales lady a cash “Tip” of $5k on the side for “Expediting” this process for me. I have no problem with discretely making this offer to her. And that $5k is of course negotiable depending on her needs.

I am looking to purchase a new panda from an AD. I have zero Rolex AD purchase history and refuse to buy products I don’t want or need just to make myself eligible for a Panda.

You “refuse to buy products” you don’t want or need but you’ll blow 5K in hopes of greasing the wheels? Ok.


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[gccmd]

I think it would be better to just buy the watch that you want from a reputable gray market dealer.

[Sunny Arizona]

Originally Posted by gccmd

I think it would be better to just buy the watch that you want from a reputable gray market dealer.

This

[amphr1]

Sure. Maybe also make an appointment with law enforcement while you're at it.

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[JV588]

Your call but you better hope someone didn't offer her more

[ryanbush]

Originally Posted by amphr1

Sure. Maybe also make an appointment with law enforcement while you're at it.

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Can you explain the illegality of this?

[WilsdorfNDavis]

Originally Posted by ryanbush

Can you explain the illegality of this?

Bribery may also take the form of a secret commission, a profit made by an agent, in the course of his employment, without the knowledge of his principal.

[amphr1]

Originally Posted by ryanbush

Can you explain the illegality of this?

It's not illegal if you tip them for a nice conversation. But if you say here is $5k, I expect you to have a Panda for me in my next visit, then it's a bribe. And if you don't say that, we'll then. I'm sure you'll be higher on the list, but still years away from getting anything. Just to be clear, I'm no expert. But even if it's not illegal, it sure sounds unfair and unethical to me.

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[zengineer]

Originally Posted by amphr1

It's not illegal if you tip them for a nice conversation. But if you say here is $5k, I expect you to have a Panda for me in my next visit, then it's a bribe. And if you don't say that, we'll then. I'm sure you'll be higher on the list, but still years away from getting anything. Just to be clear, I'm no expert. But even if it's not illegal, it sure sounds unfair and unethical to me.

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It is not illegal to tip a watch salesperson any more than it is to tip your barber.. They aren't judges, customs agents, Senators or building inspectors. It's tacky and scummy and sad and probably somehow against the Rolex AD agreement all at the same time but hardly against the law.

The system today is that ADs choose who they want to sell to (as they should be able to do). For high demand watches it is often tied to buying high mark-up jewelry. It's no more unfair or unethical than a private golf club that won't let me just show up and play 9 holes.

[Moondoggy]

Originally Posted by amphr1

It's not illegal if you tip them for a nice conversation. But if you say here is $5k, I expect you to have a Panda for me in my next visit, then it's a bribe. And if you don't say that, we'll then. I'm sure you'll be higher on the list, but still years away from getting anything. Just to be clear, I'm no expert. But even if it's not illegal, it sure sounds unfair and unethical to me.

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It’s like prostitution where illegal, the client is not paying for sex they are paying for the time spent together if there is mutual attraction well that is not illegal.

[CarlOver]

A tip is for services rendered, no? What services has she provided? So this is not a tip, but a bribe. Now 5K might be a lot of money to her but I don’t think she would risk it. You should ask her manager if that would be ok.

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by CarlOver

A tip is for services rendered, no? What services has she provided? So this is not a tip, but a bribe. Now 5K might be a lot of money to her but I don’t think she would risk it. You should ask her manager if that would be ok.

To be fair a TIP was originally a thing back in the 18th century coffee houses.

Patrons would pay in advance To Insure Prompt Service, much like the OP hopes to accomplish.

[Moonwatcher]

My self esteem would prevent me from even envisaging what is basically bribery…. Heck i wouldn’t even bribe someone to get a transplant earlier if I needed one.

If I were the SA i’d ask 1 year in wages upfront to cover myself in case of redundancy, not such measly handout.

[slide13]

Originally Posted by brandrea

To be fair a TIP was originally a thing back in the 18th century coffee houses.

Patrons would pay in advance To Insure Prompt Service, much like the OP hopes to accomplish.

That is not true. It's not an acronym.

The noun in this sense is from 1755. The term in the sense of "to give a gratuity" first appeared in the 18th century. It derived from an earlier sense of tip, meaning "to give; to hand, pass", which originated in the thieves' cant in the 17th century. This sense may have derived from the 16th-century "tip" meaning "to strike or hit smartly but lightly" (which may have derived from the Low German tippen, "to tap"), but this derivation is "very uncertain".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gratuity

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by slide13

That is not true. It's not an acronym.

The noun in this sense is from 1755. The term in the sense of "to give a gratuity" first appeared in the 18th century. It derived from an earlier sense of tip, meaning "to give; to hand, pass", which originated in the thieves' cant in the 17th century. This sense may have derived from the 16th-century "tip" meaning "to strike or hit smartly but lightly" (which may have derived from the Low German tippen, "to tap"), but this derivation is "very uncertain".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gratuity

Well then I stand corrected.


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[Andad]

You know the answer.

[omar-rye]

Originally Posted by Desibaba

what if I offered the sales lady a cash “Tip” of $5k on the side for “Expediting” this process for me. I have no problem with discretely making this offer to her. And that $5k is of course negotiable depending on her needs.

I am looking to purchase a new panda from an AD. I have zero Rolex AD purchase history and refuse to buy products I don’t want or need just to make myself eligible for a Panda.

Besides the fact that it's unethical at minimum, your SA doesn't have the final say on allocating a Panda. There's one or more persons above her that need to sign off on the allocation. They're going to look at your file and so forth. Obviously, your 5k 'Tip' is not going to show up, but your zero purchase history will.

Originally Posted by messikens

Found the link to your cash "tip"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bribery

Good one.

[Maxy]

Originally Posted by Desibaba

what if I offered the sales lady a cash “Tip” of $5k on the side for “Expediting” this process for me. I have no problem with discretely making this offer to her. And that $5k is of course negotiable depending on her needs.

I am looking to purchase a new panda from an AD. I have zero Rolex AD purchase history and refuse to buy products I don’t want or need just to make myself eligible for a Panda.

This kind of tip is referred to as bribe in many countries.

[Watchman001]

A $75,000 tip in the form of unwanted jewelry and watches is just the ticket!

[dnd2984]

Keep us updated.

Also might want to research how the AD allocation process works.. $5k LOL

[Watchdog]

I think you know the answer. You can but not a good idea.

[steveclr]

Wow - was afraid this was serious until I saw his post count - sad times ...

[steveclr]

Originally Posted by steveclr

Wow - was afraid this was serious until I saw his post count - sad times ...

(Responding to my own post) Genuinely thought that the OP was joking. The posts in this thread have convinced me otherwise. Guess we all have wildly different ways that we value watches.

[xrole]

Originally Posted by Desibaba

what if I offered the sales lady a cash “Tip” of $5k on the side for “Expediting” this process for me. I have no problem with discretely making this offer to her. And that $5k is of course negotiable depending on her needs.

I am looking to purchase a new panda from an AD. I have zero Rolex AD purchase history and refuse to buy products I don’t want or need just to make myself eligible for a Panda.

Dear lord, your moral compass really is broken.