Patel 6119R

[mrlube1151001]

The other day I was at my A.D for servicing my watch.I am a Rolex guy don’t have much knowledge in Patek.During my conversation he offered me a 6119R.The watch looked beautiful but expensive for a time only watch.Is this a hard to get watch from A.D.

[johnsonsxusfrt]

No, it's not hard to get.

[mrlube1151001]

Good to know.

[1William]

Nice watch.

[Tonski74]

The 6119R would likely be an extremely nice compliment to your Rolex watches.


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[johnsonsxusfrt]

If the 6119 is all you want in terms of a PP, you can readily get it below retail.

[Rollieo]

If you’re just getting into Patek, your AD likely offered this piece as it’s one of the least expensive Patek to get into the brand, but also the most classic. I love this piece, time only Calatrava is what turned Patek around when the Stern family acquired the brand with the Calatrava 96.

Despite it being an entry level piece, it’s still going to be 3x the cost of your average Rolex.

[ExplorerI]

6119r isn’t a bad first Patek if you have the funds to play in that world and want to start a collection from an Ad. Yes it’s a bit cheaper grey but if being down 4 or 5k on a Patek is going to hurt again might not be the right brand to build a collection in.

[mrlube1151001]

Originally Posted by Rollieo

If you’re just getting into Patek, your AD likely offered this piece as it’s one of the least expensive Patek to get into the brand, but also the most classic. I love this piece, time only Calatrava is what turned Patek around when the Stern family acquired the brand with the Calatrava 96.

Despite it being an entry level piece, it’s still going to be 3x the cost of your average Rolex.

Very true.These watches are pretty expensive compared to Rolex.it is a stunning watch . I have to save some money and may be request this watch next year.

[mrlube1151001]

The one they had has already been sold.

[Bmats]

Look at the 5205, 5396, and 5212 — a lot of ADs will let those be first Pateks too, depending on where you’re located, with the 5212 probably the hardest/least likely.

And on the Calatrava side, the 5226 and 6007s might be possible too. The 5226 was hard to get when first released, but seems to have eased up a bunch.

These are all very different (and more expensive) from the 6119, but a different look.

[Rollieo]

Originally Posted by mrlube1151001

Very true.These watches are pretty expensive compared to Rolex.it is a stunning watch . I have to save some money and may be request this watch next year.

Originally Posted by mrlube1151001

The one they had has already been sold.

Originally Posted by ExplorerI

6119r isn’t a bad first Patek if you have the funds to play in that world and want to start a collection from an Ad. Yes it’s a bit cheaper grey but if being down 4 or 5k on a Patek is going to hurt again might not be the right brand to build a collection in.

Agreed with ExplorerI. Personally I don’t sell any watches. I think if I did, then maybe going grey may be more my thing. But I’m only buying it once, I want it new and registered in my name. The AD does this and Patek has you in their registry, I know at least some registry because Patek starts sending you magazines and in the magazine they sometimes include a personalized piece of paper that says courtesy of your AD.

For comparison, I got a 6119R when it first released. I had asked two ADs that I worked with at that time. One even required a deposit despite previous purchase history. The other AD ended up offering it to me first after about 6 months. Kind of funny, but looking back that solidified the relationship with that AD and I’ve only been getting pieces from him since.

I’m sure now it’s easier to get than when first released (there was even about a $7k premium on the grey market for the watch at the time). But even today I’d go with the AD.

[mrlube1151001]

True. If I decide to buy I will only buy from A.D. I bought all my rolexes from A.D only.

[mrlube1151001]

Originally Posted by Bmats

Look at the 5205, 5396, and 5212 — a lot of ADs will let those be first Pateks too, depending on where you’re located, with the 5212 probably the hardest/least likely.

And on the Calatrava side, the 5226 and 6007s might be possible too. The 5226 was hard to get when first released, but seems to have eased up a bunch.

These are all very different (and more expensive) from the 6119, but a different look.

Thanks for your advice.

[prnceofpersia23]

Beautiful watch, but not a hard one to get from the AD. You can buy one on the open market for significantly less ($5-10k including sales tax).

Only worth getting from the AD if you're determined to build a relationship with them.

[johnsonsxusfrt]

Originally Posted by prnceofpersia23

Beautiful watch, but not a hard one to get from the AD. You can buy one on the open market for significantly less ($5-10k including sales tax).

Only worth getting from the AD if you're determined to build a relationship with them.

^^^ What he said LOL!

[Vince_76]

Nice watch. I got offered one but turned it down. Not going to play that game.

[TunaTuna]

It's a beautiful watch. Not highly desirable, but anyone who knows Patek Philippe knows it's the finest dress watch around.

If you only have Rolex sports, then a nice dress watch would be perfect in your collection

[Gelateria]

The 6119 is super nice, grey market isn't that much cheaper, and you could probably get a 5167a afterwards (with some considerable wait)
Not a bad thing to do buying 6119 from ad no?

[JR16]

Did you try on the 6119? Beautiful watch but for me the lugs were too straight and it sat awkwardly on my 6.75 inch wrist. The 5226 fit much better.


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[Rollieo]

Originally Posted by JR16

Did you try on the 6119? Beautiful watch but for me the lugs were too straight and it sat awkwardly on my 6.75 inch wrist. The 5226 fit much better.


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Would definitely agree that the 6119 is not for the small wrist. 39mm and with a thin bezel and such a thin case with straighter lugs, it won’t work for a smaller wrist.

With that said, if you try on the 6119 and it’s a NEW watch, the leather won’t be broken in and the leather can’t curve to your wrist. It will make it look very awkward and isn’t representative of how it’ll be when broken in. Especially the fact that the watch will sit off the wrist floating.

Here’s a picture of how it looks after broken in. My wrist is 7.25”

[Vince_76]

Originally Posted by Gelateria

The 6119 is super nice, grey market isn't that much cheaper, and you could probably get a 5167a afterwards (with some considerable wait)
Not a bad thing to do buying 6119 from ad no?

I don’t think this is a realistic path for most at the moment. No of a ton of people with far more spent history who have yet to get one.

[mrlube1151001]

How long it takes to break in. You are right. I had great difficulty in wrapping around the wrist.It was indeed very uncomfortable.

[johnsonsxusfrt]

Originally Posted by mrlube1151001

How long it takes to break in. You are right. I had great difficulty in wrapping around the wrist.It was indeed very uncomfortable.

you have to wear it one hole tighter for about a week and it'll take to the shape of your wrist. If you wear it loose it could take a month or longer to conform. You could also put it on a watch box cushion and use a blow dryer to gently heat the leather (don't fry it LOL!). But the cushion should be similar to your wrist shape for this to work

[mickyd329]

Originally Posted by Gelateria

The 6119 is super nice, grey market isn't that much cheaper, and you could probably get a 5167a afterwards (with some considerable wait)
Not a bad thing to do buying 6119 from ad no?

Unfortunately, I don't think 1 purchase of a 6119 is going to yield an Aquanaut or Nautilus in the current environment.

[topcat30093]

Originally Posted by johnsonsxusfrt

No, it's not hard to get.

You should be so fortunate.

Try purchasing any Patek Philippe in the UK.
Even with a proven track record and purchase history, it’s virtually impossible to buy anything, even something as basic as a three handler Calatrava, from an authorised AD.

[mrlube1151001]

Originally Posted by mickyd329

Unfortunately, I don't think 1 purchase of a 6119 is going to yield an Aquanaut or Nautilus in the current environment.

As I said before I am a Rolex guy. I just want a patek in my collection.I am not interested in neither aqunaut or nattilus.i have no interest in spending lot of money in jewellery to accqure them.
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[mickyd329]

Originally Posted by mrlube1151001

As I said before I am a Rolex guy. I just want a patek in my collection.I am not interested in neither aqunaut or nattilus.i have no interest in spending lot of money in jewellery to accqure them.
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The post wasn't intended for you. I was responding to a post from @Gelateria stating that after buying a 6119, an Aquanaut was a possibility.

[FloridaBill]

Originally Posted by mickyd329

Unfortunately, I don't think 1 purchase of a 6119 is going to yield an Aquanaut or Nautilus in the current environment.

I disagree, it is not an easy ask, but it happens.

[Gelateria]

Originally Posted by FloridaBill

I disagree, it is not an easy ask, but it happens.

Seen something similar happen on 5167
Nautilus obviously isn't gonna happen