Is Rolex lying/exaggerating about the length of glidelock?

[wadajr]

I just bought a SS Sub C (my first Rolex) yesterday, and while I’m loving the watch, I’ve noticed something inconsistent regarding glidelock. On their website, Rolex states that the “patented Rolex Glidelock clasp lets divers expand the band to about 20 mm in 2 mm increments.”

Anyone with a Sub C can take a look, and will realize that the glidelock system has 9 different increments it can be set to, with purportedly 2mm distance between each increment. If you do the math here, the total length that the glidelock mechanism spans is 18mm. However, because the bracelet needs to be set within one of these 9 glidelock increments to begin with (best case either the loosest or tightest increment), the bracelet can only move up to a maximum of 8 glidelock increments further either in our out. This means that the glidelock system gives at most a 16mm range of expansion or contraction, not the band expansion of “about” 20mm that Rolex claims.

Am I missing something here or has Rolex blatantly lied/exaggerated in their formal claims? I know Rolex lists the modern Daytona as being a 40mm watch even though it is well known to measure at 38.5mm; if this is also a lie it would appear that there is a concerning pattern of taking liberty with the truth.

[mgsooner]

What an outrage.

[sgwatchguy]

I smell a lawsuit coming


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[Ihatecheese]

Perhaps pose your confusion to Rolex and see how they respond. Before that try having a bite to eat and some tea. It'll be ok, no need to get upset.

[myporsche]

You must be a real fun guy at parties.

[whatsthetime?]

Originally Posted by wadajr

Rolex states that the “patented Rolex Glidelock clasp lets divers expand the band to about 20 mm in 2 mm increments.”

I didn'tread where it states this? I did read where it states;

"Glidelock, allowing fine adjustments of the bracelet without using any tools - and allowing it to be worn and comfortably over a diving suit."

[drrd]

So are you sending it back for a refund?

Most people just use Glidelock as a convenient way to adjust the bracelet to wrist changes through the day.

Sounds like either you have a specific use for the watch and the combination of Fliplock and 'about 20mm' of Glidelock doesn't fulfill this requirement, or you're just being a bit pedantic.

Good first post though.

[Andad]

Class action??

[Swiss Mad!]

Unfortunately I don’t have my Sub anymore to check but when I did I took these macro’s of the Glidelock just because it’s a piece of engineering art imo.

This won’t help your beef with Rolex I know but just thought this thread needed a few pics! Lol

Just a thought, regardless of there only being 9 increments & only being able to use 8 etc - have you physically measured the difference in length between the fully closed & fully open clasp length?

Cheers











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[Cru Jones]

I have to admit, I haven’t thought of this before. I‘m confident there must be an explanation.

[Greg 59]

Well spotted. I concur with your findings.

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[Maxy]

Originally Posted by Cru Jones

I‘m confident there must be an explanation.

Same way Rolex might have an explanation for Daytona(5-digit) and 16570 being 40mm and DJ41 being actually 41mm!

[Andad]

Looks like more than 2mm centre to centre.

I will check mine.

No, on my 114060 it’s only about 1.4mm/groove with a total adjustment of <14mm.

[cmcm3]

Maybe they are referring to the Other type of Glidelock on the DeepSea? It’s strange they give the two types the same name. The DeepSea one is sooooo much sexier.

[cmcm3]

Originally Posted by Andad

Looks like more than 2mm centre to centre.

I will check mine.

It only needs to be 2.5mm centre to centre to be 20mm total based on the OPs calcs

[Swiss Mad!]

Originally Posted by drrd

So are you sending it back for a refund?

Most people just use Glidelock as a convenient way to adjust the bracelet to wrist changes through the day.

Sounds like either you have a specific use for the watch and the combination of Fliplock and 'about 20mm' of Glidelock doesn't fulfill this requirement, or you're just being a bit pedantic.

Good first post though.

By fliplock, are you refering to the 5mm pull out extension on the clasp?

Just to be clear, theres no fliplock on a glidelock. Its either/or not both.

For example GMT/Datejust etc use fliplock, Submariner/Sea Dweller/Deepsea use glidelock.

[whatsthetime?]

Originally Posted by cmcm3

The DeepSea one is sooooo much sexier.

Sexier???
The only thing I find sexy is a women.

[yoniman]

This calls for some serious beers. Lots of it.


It's just all about health, happiness & family. The rest are just necessary inconvenience we have to deal with.

[Abmatt2002]

That it! I’m taking a hammer to mine this morning. Can’t believe we’ve been lied to.

[cmcm3]

Originally Posted by whatsthetime?

Sexier???
The only thing I find sexy is a women.

Sexy.

[Swiss Mad!]

Originally Posted by cmcm3

Sexy.

Sexier than some women - and better teeth!




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[brucethemanlee]

you have way too much time on your hands

[swatty]

Thanks for letting us know, enjoy your new Sub

[Greg 59]

Originally Posted by brucethemanlee

you have way too much time on your hands

Don't we all at the present time?

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[DoDe]

Thank you for the fun-fact OP.

Please do not pay attention to members on a watchforum that does not want info about watches.

[brucethemanlee]

there are more productive ways to occupy one's time (but i guess everyone is different)

[Swiss Mad!]

Originally Posted by brucethemanlee

there are more productive ways to occupy one's time (but i guess everyone is different)

Such as reading & replying to inane TRF threads....

Well I guess we are all guilty of that at the moment lol!




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[padi56]

Originally Posted by brucethemanlee

you have way too much time on your hands

Have to agree much more real important thinks in the world today to worry about.

[Tomas Eriksson]

”about 20 mm”

[drrd]

Originally Posted by Swiss Mad!

By fliplock, are you refering to the 5mm pull out extension on the clasp?

Just to be clear, theres no fliplock on a glidelock. Its either/or not both.

For example GMT/Datejust etc use fliplock, Submariner/Sea Dweller/Deepsea use glidelock.

Yeah Rolex terminology is a bit confusing.

The 5mm extension is Easylink.

Fliplock is the three section fold-out diver extension: "Fliplock extension links enable the band to be adjusted by an additional 26 mm" (Rolex website).

So steel Sub, Sea Dweller and Deepsea have Glidelock and Fliplock.

TT Sea Dweller has Glidelock but no Fliplock as it's too posh for actual diving.

The Deepsea system seems to be called Glidelock even though it's a more complicated system that allows adjustment without opening the clasp fully.

And yes GMT, YM, DJ, Daytona etc is Easylink.

I think.