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mightymorton · 16 February 2006, 10:40 PM

I recently have taken the plunge and purchaed a bi-colour sub 16613. Initially the waiting list put me off as I am a bit of an impulsive shopper so decided to use a non rolex jeweller to source me one.

He duly obliged and its very nice. A couple of questions :

1. It has the new style presentation box, was the anchor dropped when this was issued ?
2. It is a F serial number so although it was only purchased last month was this sequence of numbers only in use until April 2005 and should I have received a D serial number ?
3. Would this model have an etched crown at 6 o`clock and is it visible with the naked eye ? Or is it that my eyesight aint as good as it once was

Regards

Iain

Mac · 16 February 2006, 10:54 PM

From what i have picked up Yes the anchor was dropped recently.

the D is as far as I know the current serial prefix however the F is still around depending on when the dealer or supplier first got it. there is no difference at all between the two serials so don't worry.

Yes you should have the laser etching at 6 o'clock but it's difficult if not impossible to see without magnification.

I'm fairly new to these sites myself although I've owned my 16610 SS Sub date for about 3 years now!

welcome!!!!

padi56 · 16 February 2006, 11:01 PM

Well its hit and miss if you get the anchor,they are likely to disappear soonYour watch should have the etched coronet,you will have view it througha 10X Lupe glass,and in a certain angle of very good light.Don't worry to much about a F or D its not that important,welcome to TRF Iain.
F from Sep 2003 to March 2005.
D from April 2005

Mr. K · 16 February 2006, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mightymorton

I recently have taken the plunge and purchaed a bi-colour sub 16613. Initially the waiting list put me off as I am a bit of an impulsive shopper so decided to use a non rolex jeweller to source me one.

He duly obliged and its very nice. A couple of questions :

1. It has the new style presentation box, was the anchor dropped when this was issued ?
2. It is a F serial number so although it was only purchased last month was this sequence of numbers only in use until April 2005 and should I have received a D serial number ?
3. Would this model have an etched crown at 6 o`clock and is it visible with the naked eye ? Or is it that my eyesight aint as good as it once was

Regards

Iain

Congrats on a nice watch.

1. I believe the anchor was dropped withthe new models.

2. The SN does not mean that much, a D or F is fine in the model you have. The serial numbers are kind of strange on Rolexes. For example a Day-Date may have a very old number in certain models, like platinum. But for your sub, a F or D is fine. I would not worry about it too much.

3. You should have the etching on the crystal. My suggestion is to hol the watch at an angle. Have the 6 o'clock position facing away from you. So the 12 position is closest to you. Then take a strong light, superwhite led lights work the best and shine it right on the crystal.

Enjoy your watch.

dman · 17 February 2006, 01:44 AM

To both Mac and Morton. Welcome to TRF, please stick around and post often.

The 16613 is a great watch, which color did you choose?

RobDad · 17 February 2006, 01:56 AM

Great watch - congrats!

I didn't get an anchor with my D-series Sub in a new box, so don't worry about it

What's that about a waiting list????!!!! - here in London the bi-colour sub, blue or black, is in nearly every dealers window (different story if you want the 16610 though!)

Enjoy your sub, great choice

mightymorton · 17 February 2006, 02:34 AM

Thanks for the welcome and the prompt response. In answer to your question I decide on blue.Both blue and black are nice but a friend has black one so I went for blue.

Really pleased with my watch although I am in a bit of a dilema. Do I wear it as an everyday time piece or use my always reliable seiko kinetic and keep it for special occasions.

When I made a general enquiry in Glasgow jewellers they never had one in stock and spoke of waiting lists . Sort of put me off , a friend mentioned someone he had purchased a Raport watch winder from and he also dealt in fine watches. I spoke to him and he sourced one , dealers stamp is Watches of Switzerland Bond St London. So the suplier made money , the chap I bought it made money and I made myself happy so overall a pleasent experience.

I liked the watch that much and was also thinking of a Daytona but as they were quoting several years waiting time unless you want to pay a premium

. So in the end I bought theSub I have put my name on the waiting list for a bi-colour Daytona Cosmograph.

JJ Irani · 17 February 2006, 02:51 AM

A great BIG welcome to Mac and Ian on this forum. Ian, you've chosen the right colour, that's for sure. I once owned the TT Blue Sub, but later upgraded to the TT Blue YM.

Anchors have stopped with the advent of the newer box. You've probably got a very late F-series, say for e.g. F-987xxx or something like that.

The laser etching will definitely be there. Use a 10x loupe under a reading lamp and you'll see it.

Wear that beauty in good health.

Cheers - JJ

mailman · 17 February 2006, 02:52 AM

Hi Mac and Ian.

Welcome to TRF

JJ Irani · 17 February 2006, 02:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mailman

Hi Mac and Ian.

Welcome to TRF

Hi tosser,

Welcome to TRF!!

mailman · 17 February 2006, 03:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Hi tosser,

Welcome to TRF!!

Hi Kojak, you still suckin on the lollipop?

JJ Irani · 17 February 2006, 03:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mailman

Hi Kojak, you still suckin on the lollipop?

Yep!!

mailman · 17 February 2006, 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Yep!!

I bet there's a connection to the lollipops and something else

JJ Irani · 17 February 2006, 03:35 AM

You have a ONE track mind....said the pot to the kettle!!

mike · 17 February 2006, 03:46 AM

Hey MM, welcome to the wonderfull world of Rolex!

You've got a great watch! The crown is there it's just awfully hard to see.
Play around in different light you'll see it.

JJ Irani · 17 February 2006, 03:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike

Hey MM, welcome to the wonderfull world of Rolex!

You've got a great watch! The crown is there it's just awfully hard to see.
Play around in different light you'll see it.

Paulie plays around in different light, but still doesn't see it!!

mailman · 17 February 2006, 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Paulie plays around in different light, but still doesn't see it!!

Do you want to see it again tosser?

C.J. · 17 February 2006, 07:13 AM

Welcom to TRF, guys. Enjoy your stay.

Gedanken · 17 February 2006, 07:26 AM

Welcome to TRF, mightymorton and Mac!

RobDad · 17 February 2006, 10:08 AM

That's interesting that the watch came from a Watches of Switzerland in Bond St.

I work around there, and the AD's always have a lot of stock, in particular 2 tone models.

This thing about waiting lists is rubbish I'm afraid (with the exception of the Steel Daytona) - the dealers just put them in the window!

Take a train trip to London, you'll return home the proud owner of a 2-tone Daytona, at list price, no problem. Actually, if you pop into Mappin and Webb (owned by Watches of Switzerland apparently) on Regent St, they have a choice of 2, one with diamond dial, one with white, I was drooling over them at lunchtime today on my way back from the pub!

If you make it down, I'll buy you a pint (actually, if you can afford a daytona and a sub in a week, you can buy me one!)

Cheers and happy shopping!!!

dman · 17 February 2006, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobDad

If you make it down, I'll buy you a pint (actually, if you can afford a daytona and a sub in a week, you can buy me one!)

Cheers and happy shopping!!!

ROTFLMAO!! I knew I would like Rob's Dad from the first post he made!!

mineral · 17 February 2006, 11:53 AM

A BIg welcome to TRF.

Both 16613 and 16610 are excellent choice!

Mineral Rock

bhrees · 17 February 2006, 12:53 PM

welcome Iain!

We would all love to see some pictures of that beauty when you get a chance!

mightymorton · 17 February 2006, 09:17 PM

HI everyone , thanks for all the help and warm welcome. It was a good shout with the serial number. 998*** so it must have been one of the last "F" prefixes.

The daytona will have to wait until my turn comes around and the Jeweller phones and says pick it up

I cant beleive that I actually bought the watch , waited all these years and always had difficulty convincing myself that spending that amount of money on a watch was the right thing to do. I only have it weeks and I am now wanting another

So many fakes around was also an issue.I don`t go for fakes for several reasons primarily because it will be supporting things a lot more sinister. Although I have to admit that some of them are pretty damn good from a distance.

I`ll try and post some pics later

dman · 18 February 2006, 12:02 AM

It is hard to make that leap to one of these, it is harder to not get a second one.

Congrats again and enjoy that beauty!!

JJ Irani · 18 February 2006, 04:08 AM

Hey mighty (love your username, BTW),

Does your TT Blue Sub look something like this? (Shhh....just needed an excuse to post another picture!!

)

16 February 2006, 10:40 PM	#1
mightymorton "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Real Name: iain Location: scotland Posts: 3	Firstly Hi from a new Member I recently have taken the plunge and purchaed a bi-colour sub 16613. Initially the waiting list put me off as I am a bit of an impulsive shopper so decided to use a non rolex jeweller to source me one. He duly obliged and its very nice. A couple of questions : 1. It has the new style presentation box, was the anchor dropped when this was issued ? 2. It is a F serial number so although it was only purchased last month was this sequence of numbers only in use until April 2005 and should I have received a D serial number ? 3. Would this model have an etched crown at 6 o`clock and is it visible with the naked eye ? Or is it that my eyesight aint as good as it once was Regards Iain

16 February 2006, 11:01 PM	#3
padi56 "TRF" Life Patron Join Date: Jun 2005 Real Name: Peter Location: Llanfairpwllgwyng Watch: ing you. Posts: 52,445	Well its hit and miss if you get the anchor,they are likely to disappear soonYour watch should have the etched coronet,you will have view it througha 10X Lupe glass,and in a certain angle of very good light.Don't worry to much about a F or D its not that important,welcome to TRF Iain. F from Sep 2003 to March 2005. D from April 2005 __________________ ICom Pro3 All posts are my own opinion and my opinion only. "The clock of life is wound but once, and no man has the power to tell just when the hands will stop. Now is the only time you actually own the time, Place no faith in time, for the clock may soon be still for ever." Good Judgement comes from experience,experience comes from Bad Judgement,.Buy quality, cry once; buy cheap, cry again and again. www.mc0yad.club Second in command CEO and left handed watch winder

17 February 2006, 01:44 AM	#5
dman Lifetime TRF Patron Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Daren Location: Austin Watch: the road Posts: 13,583	To both Mac and Morton. Welcome to TRF, please stick around and post often. The 16613 is a great watch, which color did you choose? __________________ You either get it or you don't, if you have to ask, YOU DON'T!! I really hope that midget cop doesn't find me in Kokomo.

17 February 2006, 02:51 AM	#8
JJ Irani Fondly Remembered Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: JJ Location: Auckland, NZ Watch: ALL SOLD!! Posts: 74,320	A great BIG welcome to Mac and Ian on this forum. Ian, you've chosen the right colour, that's for sure. I once owned the TT Blue Sub, but later upgraded to the TT Blue YM. Anchors have stopped with the advent of the newer box. You've probably got a very late F-series, say for e.g. F-987xxx or something like that. The laser etching will definitely be there. Use a 10x loupe under a reading lamp and you'll see it. Wear that beauty in good health. Cheers - JJ __________________ Words fail me in expressing my utmost thanks to ALL of you for this wonderful support during my hour of need!! I firmly believe that my time on planet earth is NOT yet up!! I shall fight this to the very end.......and WIN!! Last edited by JJ Irani; 17 February 2006 at 02:52 AM..

17 February 2006, 02:52 AM	#9
mailman TRF Moderator & DATE-JUST41 2024 Patron Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: . Watch: 126610LN Posts: 35,388	Hi Mac and Ian. Welcome to TRF __________________ JJ

16 February 2006, 10:54 PM	#2
Mac Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Derby (UK) Watch: Sea Dweller Posts: 18	From what i have picked up Yes the anchor was dropped recently. the D is as far as I know the current serial prefix however the F is still around depending on when the dealer or supplier first got it. there is no difference at all between the two serials so don't worry. Yes you should have the laser etching at 6 o'clock but it's difficult if not impossible to see without magnification. I'm fairly new to these sites myself although I've owned my 16610 SS Sub date for about 3 years now! welcome!!!!

17 February 2006, 01:56 AM	#6
RobDad Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Real Name: Rob Dadd Location: London Posts: 134	Great watch - congrats! I didn't get an anchor with my D-series Sub in a new box, so don't worry about it What's that about a waiting list????!!!! - here in London the bi-colour sub, blue or black, is in nearly every dealers window (different story if you want the 16610 though!) Enjoy your sub, great choice

17 February 2006, 02:34 AM	#7
mightymorton "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Real Name: iain Location: scotland Posts: 3	Thanks for the welcome and the prompt response. In answer to your question I decide on blue.Both blue and black are nice but a friend has black one so I went for blue. Really pleased with my watch although I am in a bit of a dilema. Do I wear it as an everyday time piece or use my always reliable seiko kinetic and keep it for special occasions. When I made a general enquiry in Glasgow jewellers they never had one in stock and spoke of waiting lists . Sort of put me off , a friend mentioned someone he had purchased a Raport watch winder from and he also dealt in fine watches. I spoke to him and he sourced one , dealers stamp is Watches of Switzerland Bond St London. So the suplier made money , the chap I bought it made money and I made myself happy so overall a pleasent experience. I liked the watch that much and was also thinking of a Daytona but as they were quoting several years waiting time unless you want to pay a premium . So in the end I bought theSub I have put my name on the waiting list for a bi-colour Daytona Cosmograph.

17 February 2006, 03:35 AM	#14
JJ Irani Fondly Remembered Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: JJ Location: Auckland, NZ Watch: ALL SOLD!! Posts: 74,320	You have a ONE track mind....said the pot to the kettle!! __________________ Words fail me in expressing my utmost thanks to ALL of you for this wonderful support during my hour of need!! I firmly believe that my time on planet earth is NOT yet up!! I shall fight this to the very end.......and WIN!!

17 February 2006, 03:46 AM	#15
mike "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22,683	Hey MM, welcome to the wonderfull world of Rolex! You've got a great watch! The crown is there it's just awfully hard to see. Play around in different light you'll see it.

17 February 2006, 07:13 AM	#18
C.J. "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: * Posts: 10,196	Welcom to TRF, guys. Enjoy your stay. __________________ Me? I'm still looking for Kokomo. I just hope that damn golfer isn't there

17 February 2006, 07:26 AM	#19
Gedanken "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Sir Location: Melbourne Watch: F-series SD Posts: 8,589	Welcome to TRF, mightymorton and Mac! __________________ You buy a Casio to make sure you're on time; you wear a Rolex because you don't have to be on time.

17 February 2006, 10:08 AM	#20
RobDad Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Real Name: Rob Dadd Location: London Posts: 134	Waiting list for a 2-tone Daytona? - not in London That's interesting that the watch came from a Watches of Switzerland in Bond St. I work around there, and the AD's always have a lot of stock, in particular 2 tone models. This thing about waiting lists is rubbish I'm afraid (with the exception of the Steel Daytona) - the dealers just put them in the window! Take a train trip to London, you'll return home the proud owner of a 2-tone Daytona, at list price, no problem. Actually, if you pop into Mappin and Webb (owned by Watches of Switzerland apparently) on Regent St, they have a choice of 2, one with diamond dial, one with white, I was drooling over them at lunchtime today on my way back from the pub! If you make it down, I'll buy you a pint (actually, if you can afford a daytona and a sub in a week, you can buy me one!) Cheers and happy shopping!!!

17 February 2006, 11:53 AM	#22
mineral "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 3,670	Hi ilan and Mac, A BIg welcome to TRF. Both 16613 and 16610 are excellent choice! Mineral Rock

17 February 2006, 12:53 PM	#23
bhrees "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Real Name: Brian Location: Cleveland Ohio Watch: SS/WG DJ jubilee Posts: 131	welcome Iain! We would all love to see some pictures of that beauty when you get a chance! __________________ Regards Brian

17 February 2006, 09:17 PM	#24
mightymorton "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Real Name: iain Location: scotland Posts: 3	HI everyone , thanks for all the help and warm welcome. It was a good shout with the serial number. 998*** so it must have been one of the last "F" prefixes. The daytona will have to wait until my turn comes around and the Jeweller phones and says pick it up I cant beleive that I actually bought the watch , waited all these years and always had difficulty convincing myself that spending that amount of money on a watch was the right thing to do. I only have it weeks and I am now wanting another So many fakes around was also an issue.I don`t go for fakes for several reasons primarily because it will be supporting things a lot more sinister. Although I have to admit that some of them are pretty damn good from a distance. I`ll try and post some pics later

18 February 2006, 12:02 AM	#25
dman Lifetime TRF Patron Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Daren Location: Austin Watch: the road Posts: 13,583	It is hard to make that leap to one of these, it is harder to not get a second one. Congrats again and enjoy that beauty!! __________________ You either get it or you don't, if you have to ask, YOU DON'T!! I really hope that midget cop doesn't find me in Kokomo.

18 February 2006, 04:08 AM	#26
JJ Irani Fondly Remembered Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: JJ Location: Auckland, NZ Watch: ALL SOLD!! Posts: 74,320	Hey mighty (love your username, BTW), Does your TT Blue Sub look something like this? (Shhh....just needed an excuse to post another picture!! ) __________________ Words fail me in expressing my utmost thanks to ALL of you for this wonderful support during my hour of need!! I firmly believe that my time on planet earth is NOT yet up!! I shall fight this to the very end.......and WIN!!

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