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Old 26 February 2024, 07:42 AM   #1
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Is rolex explorer 39 really understated?

Does any one has experience with rolex explorer 39 (214270) being understated (i.e. doesnt attract attention)?

I want an everyday watch that is simple and understated. Another option I am considering is IWC mark series (16, 18 or 20) in black dial (just to give a referene about kind of understatement I am looking for.

But explorer 39 also seems to fit the bill gievn its matte dial (vs glossy on the new 40mm). 36mm explorer are not an option for me as I like slightly bigger watches.

I also appriciate that this is very subjective. For example, I have heard some people say that sub is understated which I dont agree with (I find it quite flashy given its glossy dial, striking looks and ligth reflection from bezel teeths etc). But any views would be appriciated.
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Old 26 February 2024, 07:46 AM   #2
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I previously had a 39 mm Explorer. I now have a submariner 126610LN. I have had many more people notice my Explorer. I wore it, thinking I would be inconspicuous, and for some reason several people who are not even watch people zeroed right in on the Explorer. Hey is that a Rolex?
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Old 26 February 2024, 07:48 AM   #3
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I actually own one ...the discontinued mark I dial..what appealed to me is that it doesn't scream Rolex. Its subtle and can be worn for dress and play. And the 39mm is the perfect case size for me.

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Old 26 February 2024, 09:21 PM   #4
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I actually own one ...the discontinued mark I dial..what appealed to me is that it doesn't scream Rolex. Its subtle and can be worn for dress and play. And the 39mm is the perfect case size for me.

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Old 26 February 2024, 07:49 AM   #5
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A 214270 is less conspicuous than your average Rolex imo, no shiny ceramic bezel etc.

Also for me the best iteration of the Explorer, the positioning of the dial text and matte dial are superb.
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Old 26 February 2024, 07:55 AM   #6
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A 214270 is less conspicuous than your average Rolex imo, no shiny ceramic bezel etc.

Also for me the best iteration of the Explorer, the positioning of the dial text and matte dial are superb.

Agreed all around.

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Old 27 February 2024, 12:56 AM   #7
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A 214270 is less conspicuous than your average Rolex imo, no shiny ceramic bezel etc.

Also for me the best iteration of the Explorer, the positioning of the dial text and matte dial are superb.
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Old 26 February 2024, 08:00 AM   #8
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Does any one has experience with rolex explorer 39 (214270) being understated (i.e. doesnt attract attention)?

I want an everyday watch that is simple and understated. Another option I am considering is IWC mark series (16, 18 or 20) in black dial (just to give a referene about kind of understatement I am looking for.

But explorer 39 also seems to fit the bill gievn its matte dial (vs glossy on the new 40mm). 36mm explorer are not an option for me as I like slightly bigger watches.

I also appriciate that this is very subjective. For example, I have heard some people say that sub is understated which I dont agree with (I find it quite flashy given its glossy dial, striking looks and ligth reflection from bezel teeths etc). But any views would be appriciated.
The explorer 39 is very understated, will attract zero attention. Zero. Buy and enjoy
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Old 26 February 2024, 08:07 AM   #9
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If discretion is top of your priority list, any Rolex should be at the bottom.

I would suspect your average Joe wouldn't have even heard of IWC.

However - if you want a Rolex - the Explorer is a fantastic, as discrete as it gets, choice.
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Old 26 February 2024, 08:08 AM   #10
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I think it’s about as low key as you can get in the Rolex professional line.
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Old 26 February 2024, 12:32 PM   #11
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I think it’s about as low key as you can get in the Rolex professional line.

I have the 39, love it, and 100% agree with this. Someone would have to WANT to know (and care) what watch you are wearing and if that is the case they'll know the IWC too


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Old 26 February 2024, 08:14 AM   #12
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I love mine for many of the reasons you stated. I’ve yet to have someone walk up and say “nice Rolex”, but I regularly get “nice sub” comments when I wear my 124060.
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Old 26 February 2024, 08:22 AM   #13
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I think a Tudor Ranger would be much more understated than the Exp with its shiny bezel, not really a tool watch. The Ranger also has AR coating on the crystal which makes it less blingy
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Old 26 February 2024, 12:12 PM   #14
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I think a Tudor Ranger would be much more understated than the Exp with its shiny bezel, not really a tool watch. The Ranger also has AR coating on the crystal which makes it less blingy

The Ranger is awesome, but it’s NOT an Explorer. I owned a Ranger prior to the Mk2, and there’s no comparison in my mind as a “keeper”. :-)

MK2 is my EDC. Truly love it.

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I think a Tudor Ranger would be much more understated than the Exp with its shiny bezel, not really a tool watch. The Ranger also has AR coating on the crystal which makes it less blingy
The Tudor Heritage Ranger, which was discontinued a few years ago, is also a good underrated option. DLC black rehaut, 50m deeper depth rating than the Explorer, 99% brushed steel, and looks more similar to the original Explorers with its straight endlinks. Got mine in 2014 and its still running like new. (Sold my Explorer).
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Old 26 February 2024, 11:01 PM   #16
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The Tudor Heritage Ranger, which was discontinued a few years ago, is also a good underrated option. DLC black rehaut, 50m deeper depth rating than the Explorer, 99% brushed steel, and looks more similar to the original Explorers with its straight endlinks. Got mine in 2014 and its still running like new. (Sold my Explorer).
I was referring to the new Ranger, but yes on both. When I try on the current explorer I see a silly piece of jewelry with the polished bezel and very reflective crystal, the idea of using it on a serious outdoor activity as the originals were seems laughable. I get the same feeling when I see a PM sub
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Old 26 February 2024, 11:17 PM   #17
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I was referring to the new Ranger, but yes on both. When I try on the current explorer I see a silly piece of jewelry with the polished bezel and very reflective crystal, the idea of using it on a serious outdoor activity as the originals were seems laughable. I get the same feeling when I see a PM sub
It’s a watch with legibility, waterproofness, and a darn tough case. It’s capable, yet I cannot see one instance of “serious outdoor activities” that would be required for a single complication watch like the Explorer. What would you have in mind?
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Old 27 February 2024, 12:00 AM   #18
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It’s a watch with legibility, waterproofness, and a darn tough case. It’s capable, yet I cannot see one instance of “serious outdoor activities” that would be required for a single complication watch like the Explorer. What would you have in mind?
I wouldn’t call a scratch magnet polished bezel a darn tough case. I’m referring to the original expeditions these watches marketing efforts use, I don’t think those guys would choose today’s Explorer for those trips. Not that I’m going on one, but I have gone on week long fishing trips to the NW Territories of Canada, and hunting trips where shiny jewelry would be a hindrance, a Ranger would not be. I guess with today’s urban population where an outdoor adventure is a Sunday stroll in a park the Explorer is fine. That being said, I would agree the Explorer is more understated than most models.
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Old 26 February 2024, 08:27 AM   #19
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Absolutely the perfect watch. Flawless execution in terms of case, dimensions, movement, dial design/dial elements, bracelet, and on the wrist wearing experience. Also, very under-the-radar, but still somehow conveys high quality even from a distance.
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Old 26 February 2024, 08:31 AM   #20
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Very low key.

Even London watch thieves may not notice one.
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Old 26 February 2024, 08:32 AM   #21
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I had a 39 for several years. Stealthy, never asked about it and great legibility.
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Old 26 February 2024, 08:51 AM   #22
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If I was a one watch guy..... it would be the Explorer, 36mm The 39mm is also a great choice.
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Old 26 February 2024, 08:46 AM   #23
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No nice watch is really understated except in comparison to other nice watches.

Explorer definitely is no bling and a more simple face that is easy to read. Great watch and I think that it will give you what you are looking for as not being a “statement” watch.
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Old 26 February 2024, 08:56 AM   #24
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I always thought the 39mm Explorer had rather large 'Rolex' text on the dial, so I passed on them. Same with the 40mm.

I do have a 124270
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Old 26 February 2024, 08:57 AM   #25
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Look off brand. Anything with a ”ROLEX” on it the average person knows what it is. There is no getting around this. Rolex spent way too much to not have unmatched name recognition.
A IWC is unknown.
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Old 26 February 2024, 09:05 AM   #26
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Absolutely understated. I’ve never noticed anyone looking at my Explorer 214270 but frequently notice people ogling my Sub.
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Old 26 February 2024, 09:09 AM   #27
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The 39mm Mark 2 is my favorite of all explorers. Super understated, classy, rugged and beautiful! You really can wear this watch anywhere as it's perfect for all occasions.
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Old 26 February 2024, 09:14 AM   #28
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Owner here as well. Not only is it stealthy, I think it fits well and has a timeless design that’s tough to get tired of. IWC Mark __ are great watches too but in my opinion if your comparing the two and end up going with the IWC I think there’s a high percentage that you’ll come back and get the Explorer later down the line. It’s such a great watch that it’s tough to forget about it. If you go with the Explorer first IMO you’ll forget about the IWC.


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Old 26 February 2024, 09:21 AM   #29
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Even more stealthy of the bracelet




..Explorer & Spring Diver - I’m just here for the photos..
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Old 26 February 2024, 09:41 AM   #30
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thank you all for the very helpful comments. :)
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