American Rolex Robber who preys on California in person sellers

[Al1969]

Originally Posted by WS9D

We live in a silly world now where any verbiage the OP would’ve/could’ve used would have been questioned and criticized. Maybe we should just thank him for the info, especially those of us in CA.

It seems the PC “police” here are more concerned with how the perp is identified rather than the thief being caught. Ridiculous!

Thanks for the info OP.

[2loaded]

Originally Posted by Al1969

It seems the PC “police” here are more concerned with how the perp is identified rather than the thief being caught. Ridiculous!

Thanks for the info OP.

Exactly this.

[bluestreak]

Originally Posted by Al1969

It seems the PC “police” here are more concerned with how the perp is identified rather than the thief being caught. Ridiculous!

Thanks for the info OP.

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There’s a photograph of the dude. Multiple references to his race aren’t necessary to identify the guy.
I’d argue that putting a description in the headline that is so generic is pretty useless: no height, no weight, no identifying characteristics that would be useful to people. All it probably does is make it harder for black people to buy watches.

[East of Eden]

Originally Posted by bluestreak

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There’s a photograph of the dude. Multiple references to his race aren’t necessary to identify the guy.
I’d argue that putting a description in the headline that is so generic is pretty useless: no height, no weight, no identifying characteristics that would be useful to people. All it probably does is make it harder for black people to buy watches.

So if he had said ‘white’ would it have made it harder for white people to buy watches?

[bluestreak]

Originally Posted by East of Eden

So if he had said ‘white’ would it have made it harder for white people to buy watches?

Nope. If you don’t know how the world works, I’m not sure what else to say.

[RichM]

OP, thanks for sharing your story and I hope you get your watch back. I also hope he gets what’s coming to him.

There’s a special place in Hell for people like him.

[thughes]

Originally Posted by WS9D

We live in a silly world now where any verbiage the OP would’ve/could’ve used would have been questioned and criticized. Maybe we should just thank him for the info, especially those of us in CA.

Was thinking the exact same thing. PC has replaced comon sense

[KatGirl]

Originally Posted by thughes

Was thinking the exact same thing. PC has replaced comon sense

I agree with you guys, but can see the other side, too. His race was mentioned a few too many times. In general, I believe we, as a society, have gone overboard, of late, in an effort to always be politically correct. It’s hard to talk about anything that can be remotely controversial, without risking offending someone. It’s a shame. I’m a left leaning Californian, but some of the things I see and hear make me cringe. I find even some of the regular commercials on TV to be offensive. We’ve gone too far. The OP is doing us a favor, wanting us to be safe, and not experience what he did. So, kudos to him. Let’s focus on his good intentions, rather than criticize how he delivered the message. After all, he did edit his title, when asked.

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[Oldfellow]

Originally Posted by KatGirl

I agree with you guys, but can see the other side, too. His race was mentioned a few too many times. In general, I believe we, as a society, have gone overboard, of late, in an effort to always be politically correct. It’s hard to talk about anything that can be remotely controversial, without risking offending someone. It’s a shame. I’m a left leaning Californian, but some of the things I see and hear make me cringe. I find even some of the regular commercials on TV to be offensive. We’ve gone too far. The OP is doing us a favor, wanting us to be safe, and not experience what he did. So, kudos to him. Let’s focus on his good intentions, rather than criticize how he delivered the message. After all, he did edit his title, when asked.

Kat


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[Hollie_Rollie]

That’s crazy and thank you for the write up.

The Mase fake id is hilarious though .


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[slim]

Originally Posted by Hollie_Rollie

That’s crazy and thank you for the write up.

The Mase fake id is hilarious though .


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LOL the last ID is another rapper... G Herbo

[Hollie_Rollie]

Originally Posted by slim

LOL the last ID is another rapper... G Herbo

Haha holy crap. For such a well thought out scheme he really got lazy with the pictures.

It’s almost like this POS knew his target demographic would never recognize these individuals.


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[Cwall12345]

Thank you for the information and for editing your post.

[S’portEye]

This thread went exactly where I knew it would. Instead of being focused on what happened and trying to help, some just take issue with the wording. Let’s blame the victim for his description of the criminal. IBTL

[East of Eden]

Originally Posted by S’portEye

This thread went exactly where I knew it would. Instead of being focused on what happened and trying to help, some just take issue with the wording. Let’s blame the victim for his description of the criminal. IBTL

Agreed, the crime here is the theft by this dirtbag, not the description of said dirtbag

[Modiferous]

What this guy does is work reverse discrimination in his favor. I have spoken at length to other victims and would be victims (ones who were targeted and for one reason or another ended up not meeting with the guy), and all of us are upset of course because we were victimized and robbed, but also because of the fact that this guy like it or not, gives people a reason to be wary of any African American who contacts us wanting to buy a watch, especially one who wants to meet in person - and that's his fault, not ours.

Obviously not one of us who was victimized is prejudiced or else we wouldn't have met with the guy in the first place. Race had nothing to do with anything.

Let's face it though - if I had read someplace on RolexForums or elsewhere about an African American Rolex Robber before this guy contacted me, I wouldn't have been robbed. Not because I would have hung up the phone right then and there, but because it would have clicked first along with other details.

I don't think it is any different from putting out there a detailed description including race of a serial killer, to protect the community.

[DC116710LN]

Originally Posted by Modiferous

What this guy does is work reverse discrimination in his favor. I have spoken at length to other victims and would be victims (ones who were targeted and for one reason or another ended up not meeting with the guy), and all of us are upset of course because we were victimized and robbed, but also because of the fact that this guy like it or not, gives people a reason to be wary of any African American who contacts us wanting to buy a watch, especially one who wants to meet in person - and that's his fault, not ours.

Obviously not one of us who was victimized is prejudiced or else we wouldn't have met with the guy in the first place. Race had nothing to do with anything.

Let's face it though - if I had read someplace on RolexForums or elsewhere about an African American Rolex Robber before this guy contacted me, I wouldn't have been robbed. Not because I would have hung up the phone right then and there, but because it would have clicked first along with other details.

I don't think it is any different from putting out there a detailed description including race of a serial killer, to protect the community.

You've provided a lot of very detailed and valuable information in your post. I think some were just saying that there is no need to over emphasize race - it's quite obvious his race from the photos. Hopefully those considering selling their watches in California will click this thread and be aware.

Again, I'm sorry you were victimized and I hope this person is brought to justice.

[kopi-c]

Originally Posted by Modiferous

What this guy does is work reverse discrimination in his favor. I have spoken at length to other victims and would be victims (ones who were targeted and for one reason or another ended up not meeting with the guy), and all of us are upset of course because we were victimized and robbed, but also because of the fact that this guy like it or not, gives people a reason to be wary of any African American who contacts us wanting to buy a watch, especially one who wants to meet in person - and that's his fault, not ours.

Obviously not one of us who was victimized is prejudiced or else we wouldn't have met with the guy in the first place. Race had nothing to do with anything.

Let's face it though - if I had read someplace on RolexForums or elsewhere about an African American Rolex Robber before this guy contacted me, I wouldn't have been robbed. Not because I would have hung up the phone right then and there, but because it would have clicked first along with other details.

I don't think it is any different from putting out there a detailed description including race of a serial killer, to protect the community.

I hope this criminal gets caught and the stolen watches are returned back to its orginal owner.

[vipereaper30]

Thank you OP for sharing your unfortunate incident. Living in the norcal area myself so I'll be extra wary. Maybe time to move!!

[dubins930]

I see the “participation trophy” folks have a strong presence on this thread…..

[KatGirl]

Originally Posted by dubins930

I see the “participation trophy” folks have a strong presence on this thread…..

What does THAT mean? Also, who is Mase?

Kat


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[omar-rye]

Originally Posted by KatGirl

What does THAT mean? Also, who is Mase?

Kat


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Does this ring any bells?



He’s the African American in the back

[Al1969]

Originally Posted by omar-rye

Does this ring any bells?



He’s the African American in the back

[Al1969]

Originally Posted by dubins930

I see the “participation trophy” folks have a strong presence on this thread…..

Perhaps they’d “feel” better if we highlighted the “crime” committed on Mase rather than the theft of very expensive time pieces .

[Scottyboy]

Originally Posted by dubins930

I see the “participation trophy” folks have a strong presence on this thread…..

Your profile pic is a picture you took while driving your car

[KatGirl]

Cops need to go undercover and catch this guy, though they should be able to use facial recognition to identify him. Sorry for your trouble, OP, and sincerely hope they catch this man.

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[Cevap]

Originally Posted by KatGirl

Cops need to go undercover and catch this guy, though they should be able to use facial recognition to identify him. Sorry for your trouble, OP, and sincerely hope they catch this man.

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Facial recognition lol where do you live lady, Robocop land?

Sorry to hear this happened to you OP. I hope I have as much self restrain as you do should I end up in a similar situation. There’s always going to be more watches.

[KatGirl]

[QUOTE=Cevap;13243398]Facial recognition lol where do you live lady, Robocop land? [QUOTE]

Facial recognition software is often used by law enforcement to identify suspects in crimes, when they have the suspect caught on video, as in this case being discussed. There are so many cameras that catch citizens’ images, when they are totally unaware. Though FRS cannot be used as evidence in court, it’s a very useful investigative tool, when trying to identify a possible suspect, in a crime, such as robbery.

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[Encepholopod]

Originally Posted by Cevap

Facial recognition lol where do you live lady, Robocop land?

Sorry to hear this happened to you OP. I hope I have as much self restrain as you do should I end up in a similar situation. There’s always going to be more watches.

Pretty rude response she's just trying to help the person, and she's right. Many states nowadays have gotten approval to incorporate FRS in investigations.

[Socal Runner]

I was selling my rose gold Daytona a couple months ago and luckily from reading a previous post I had my guard up.

This group reached out and then we hopped on a call. The second he mentioned cannabis industry and authenticating the watch at a jeweler I knew it was a complete scam. He also mentioned he would send a picture of his ID early on the call, and said he would pay in full via wire and that it was no problem. After the initial conversation I immediately blocked the number.

He was definitely polished and knew about watches as mentioned above. If I had not read good posts like these I would have definitely been more inclined to advance in the sales process and potentially even been unfortunately robbed like some of these good people have been. These guys are scum and be careful when selling.