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29 December 2023, 06:47 AM | #1 |
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“T Swiss T” on Submariner
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I picked up a job lot of watches at auction, which included a Submariner. Only thing is, it has “T Swiss T” at the bottom of the dial. I’ve never seen this on a Sub before, and thought it was reserved for dress watches. Can anyone help or confirm? Cheers |
29 December 2023, 06:56 AM | #2 |
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All watches from a certain time period with tritium dials were marked that way.
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29 December 2023, 07:00 AM | #3 |
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Pics. Aftermarket dial at best would be my first guess. It might be worth including the rest of your haul so folk can opine on what you got.
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I don't think submariners came with T Swiss T
Swiss law stated that watches in the 60s had to state that a watch contained tritium. For cronographs and "classic watches" ( such as date-daydate .... ) with small indexes , the use of tritium in the luminous paste was shown just by the words " T SWISS T In professional watches with a big amount of tritium ( submariners.... ) , the rule requested also to show the maximum amount of radiation per gram of tritium inside the luminous paste ...so that these dials had the " SWISS T < 25 " expression. T.Swiss.T for less than 277 MBq (7.5mCi) and Swiss <T25 for less than 925 MBq (25mCi)on there dials depending on how much radioactivity they had this was from 1960 till around 1998 |
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Thanks everyone.
Is the consensus that the dial is fake or after market then? Presume this means the whole watch could be. It’s the only thing that I question about it - everything else seems legit. I am new to the forum, can can’t post a link to a pic (yet) and all the ones from my phone camera are too big to upload! |
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Weird. This is the second time this has come up for a Sub in the past weeks.
Dial is not genuine at best.
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So Subs don't have the T Swiss T on them typically, even if they're vintage? Mine has it, but I have a DJ from 1972.
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I don’t believe Subs in particular ever did. Other models may have, but I don’t believe there was ever a T Swiss T dialed Sub.
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Good to know. Thanks!
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Thanks everyone!
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Gold Submariners (1680/8) came with T Swiss T
Some Tudor Submariners too
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Thanks rootbeer - this isn’t a gold one, but I suppose it could have had a service dial fitted or something right?
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If you’re able to post an image it would help. If you have trouble feel free to message me on Instagram and I’ll post here.
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Ouf.. Small plots don't require the 25. This would apply to serti diamond dials where only the hands are lumed too. Still waiting on the op's pics.
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OPs watch was not authentic.
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Feel free to share the pic, if just for closure
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Disregard about the sertis. It seems they absolutely should have the 25. My mistake.
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Shared to me in a pm on Instagram. It’s not worth posting here!!
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