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Old 1 May 2024, 12:54 PM   #1
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Didn’t know the calls when they destroyed the Buckeyes this year.


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Old 1 May 2024, 01:57 PM   #2
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Didn’t know the calls when they destroyed the Buckeyes this year.


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Driving the ball with 32 seconds left, down by 6, on the scUM 37 yard line with a chance to win the game = destroyed in your eyes?

Three years of cheating is a hell of a propellant. All sports programs should take note. Or not.
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Old 1 May 2024, 07:38 PM   #3
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Driving the ball with 32 seconds left, down by 6, on the scUM 37 yard line with a chance to win the game = destroyed in your eyes?

Three years of cheating is a hell of a propellant. All sports programs should take note. Or not.

We should be talking watches… but…

You’re right, it was not a blow out—it was a win. And beating PSU, OSU, Alabama, and Washington in a row without any signs is an accomplishment.

Nice how OSU gets high and mighty on sign stealing when they know EVERYBODY (including OSU does it). It’s not even illegal, it’s the method of which it is done that is illegal. Everyone knows everyone’s signs, which is why they are changed every game. Love how OSU ignores that.

Regardless, OSU has bought a fantastic team for this next year. Funny how this is now legal. Let’s see how Ryan Day does, since he has no idea how to DEVELOP talent or coach a TEAM. And if he is able to win, you will have nothing to be proud of. Sad what college football has become.


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Old 2 May 2024, 12:37 AM   #4
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We should be talking watches… but…

You’re right, it was not a blow out—it was a win. And beating PSU, OSU, Alabama, and Washington in a row without any signs is an accomplishment.

Nice how OSU gets high and mighty on sign stealing when they know EVERYBODY (including OSU does it). It’s not even illegal, it’s the method of which it is done that is illegal. Everyone knows everyone’s signs, which is why they are changed every game. Love how OSU ignores that.

Regardless, OSU has bought a fantastic team for this next year. Funny how this is now legal. Let’s see how Ryan Day does, since he has no idea how to DEVELOP talent or coach a TEAM. And if he is able to win, you will have nothing to be proud of. Sad what college football has become.


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You are right, beating all those teams was an accomplishment, that is why I stated; three years of cheating was a hell of a propellant.

You are also right that IN-GAME sign stealing is prevalent. What you are failing to acknowledge is that your program took it to a different level that college sports has never seen before. Paying for other school's game tickets, paying people to video tape in-game signs, decoding those signs for every team on the schedule, and then using them in future games against opponents. I love how Michigan fans ignore that.

You don't think the Michigan players that came back for the 2023 season got incentivized? Keep kidding yourself.

Your program cheated for 3 years to win 1 National Championship and you're proud of that? I graduated in 2004, I was a student when we won in 2002, and I have been to 4 out of the 5 National Championships we've played in. I only missed the Covid year. I have a lot to be proud of regardless of what happens next year.
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Old 2 May 2024, 10:57 AM   #5
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You are right, beating all those teams was an accomplishment, that is why I stated; three years of cheating was a hell of a propellant.

You are also right that IN-GAME sign stealing is prevalent. What you are failing to acknowledge is that your program took it to a different level that college sports has never seen before. Paying for other school's game tickets, paying people to video tape in-game signs, decoding those signs for every team on the schedule, and then using them in future games against opponents. I love how Michigan fans ignore that.

You don't think the Michigan players that came back for the 2023 season got incentivized? Keep kidding yourself.

Your program cheated for 3 years to win 1 National Championship and you're proud of that? I graduated in 2004, I was a student when we won in 2002, and I have been to 4 out of the 5 National Championships we've played in. I only missed the Covid year. I have a lot to be proud of regardless of what happens next year.

Incentivized to come back, yes, but the Buckeyes have spent over 13 million this year alone, just to win a national championship. And if they do, what does it mean? This is part of a larger discussion that we might actually see eye to eye on about what has become of college football. I’m all for compensation of athletes, but it has gotten out of hand very quickly and larger, more established programs (OSU, A & M) are using smaller programs as their farm clubs instead of developing three and four star athletes into five stars.

Regardless, I am not being naive, but all teams steal signs, whether in-game or on film. I agree in-game sign stealing is illegal, but I’m not sure you understand the reason… it is because smaller programs cannot afford to do it. The NCAA was trying to level the playing field. You should read about this.

Furthermore, there is NO evidence that the info that Stallions collected was ever passed on to any Michigan coach. This has never been demonstrated. He was pretty crazy and if you want proof, just read his 500 page manifesto.

I realize the Buckeyes nation already convicted Michigan on day one, and it is a convenient excuse for losing three years in a row. I’ve been to Columbus—the hate is palpable and not like anything I’ve ever seen in college football. It’s not even fun. It’s supposed to be a good time.

I hope we can all just appreciate the rivalry and be good winners and losers. The pendulum always swings the other way eventually.


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Incentivized to come back, yes, but the Buckeyes have spent over 13 million this year alone, just to win a national championship. And if they do, what does it mean? This is part of a larger discussion that we might actually see eye to eye on about what has become of college football. I’m all for compensation of athletes, but it has gotten out of hand very quickly and larger, more established programs (OSU, A & M) are using smaller programs as their farm clubs instead of developing three and four star athletes into five stars.

Regardless, I am not being naive, but all teams steal signs, whether in-game or on film. I agree in-game sign stealing is illegal, but I’m not sure you understand the reason… it is because smaller programs cannot afford to do it. The NCAA was trying to level the playing field. You should read about this.

Furthermore, there is NO evidence that the info that Stallions collected was ever passed on to any Michigan coach. This has never been demonstrated. He was pretty crazy and if you want proof, just read his 500 page manifesto.

I realize the Buckeyes nation already convicted Michigan on day one, and it is a convenient excuse for losing three years in a row. I’ve been to Columbus—the hate is palpable and not like anything I’ve ever seen in college football. It’s not even fun. It’s supposed to be a good time.

I hope we can all just appreciate the rivalry and be good winners and losers. The pendulum always swings the other way eventually.


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I don't know what to tell you, athletes getting paid for their NIL is now legal.

No evidence? Are you serious? What about the countless videos and pictures that I've seen of Stalions holding laminated sheets where you can clearly see that they are hand signals? Pictures of Stalions with those sheets in the ears of Harbagh and both offensive and defensive coordinators?

Here is your proof - https://x.com/trevorbarnes/status/1716636550044303759

I am no longer going to engage with you because you are clearly delusional.

Anyone who is familiar with this topic knows the truth.

Take care of yourself.
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