Can I offer the AD’s salesperson a cash “Tip” on the side for helping me get my watch

[Goldilock]

Is this something new? This is how grey dealers get most of their BNIB watches. They mostly give this kind of "tips" to the shop owners that are happy to sell their watches through back door. This is not fantasy, this is how it works.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by Desibaba

what if I offered the sales lady a cash “Tip” of $5k on the side for “Expediting” this process for me. I have no problem with discretely making this offer to her. And that $5k is of course negotiable depending on her needs.

I am looking to purchase a new panda from an AD. I have zero Rolex AD purchase history and refuse to buy products I don’t want or need just to make myself eligible for a Panda.

If anyone offers anything extra just to buy a watch, they must have more money than sense, or be sixpence short of a shilling IMHO.

[Flint]

Originally Posted by padi56

If anyone offers anything extra just to buy a watch, they must have more money than sense, or be sixpence short of a shilling IMHO.

Agree

[minute_man]

Originally Posted by padi56

If anyone offers anything extra just to buy a watch, they must have more money than sense, or be sixpence short of a shilling IMHO.

Or never worked for that money...

[Flint]

It gets worse !

[Scottyboy]

So, you won't buy things you don't need, but you’re OK bribing someone to get a watch?

People like you are the problem

[jimcameron]

what if I offered the sales lady a cash “Tip” of $5k on the side

Maybe a time will come when you are not so desperate for attention.

[Desibaba]

I know my post reeks of desperation and I already have a Sky Dweller, Panerai, Breitling and an Omega. Maybe instead of a Daytona I should look at this since it also has a date feature. Btw sealed and new in box pandas are going for well over $32k on Chrono 24 which I will never pay. This might make more sense.

https://www.chrono24.com/audemarspig..._BIPCdJ&pos=12

[padi56]

Originally Posted by Desibaba

I know my post reeks of desperation and I already have a Sky Dweller, Panerai, Breitling and an Omega. Maybe instead of a Daytona I should look at this since it also has a date feature. Btw sealed and new in box pandas are going for well over $32k on Chrono 24 which I will never pay. This might make more sense.

https://www.chrono24.com/audemarspig..._BIPCdJ&pos=12

Sorry cannot under why anyone would be like you put desperation to get any watch, far more important things in life than any watch.

[Little machines]

Nice AP you have the right idea pertaining to the AP. Invest the 5k in crypto or PM metals watches are beautiful but not necessary and are luxury items ! Good luck in your watch venture! AP's good value at this time IMO.

[Mystro]

$5k won’t get it done to get close to a SS Daytona at the AD. These are for $100k spenders to be vetted for a SS Daytona list.
Go grey market or look forget it.

[PeteNYC13]

Originally Posted by Mystro

$5k won’t get it done to get close to a SS Daytona at the AD. These are for $100k spenders to be vetted for a SS Daytona list.
Go grey market or look forget it.

.... and that summarizes why the Rolex market and frustration is where it is at today.

-you are dumb to spend more than retail by "tipping" the dealer to get what you want
BUT
- you should definitely go to a Grey Market dealer that has "tipped" the AD so they can charge you much more.

Makes total sense

[Barada7]

Questions like these are an indication you need to get out of this hobby.

[Mystro]

Originally Posted by Barada7

Questions like these are an indication you need to get out of this hobby.

That’s the truth.

[TickTockChuck]

Originally Posted by Barada7

Questions like these are an indication you need to get out of this hobby.

Ha, indeed. Bribery isn't okay in any situation and is a question of ethics. I'm sure Rolex would swiftly yank their AD status if they got wind of such practices. In many industries, don't people get fired and/or jailed for such behavior? Sad.

[Jasb]

Have a friend who’s on the “list” for one. He got the call and was told he needed to spend 10k in the store to get his watch and he did it. Can anyone please tell me what the difference is?

[Moonwatcher]

Originally Posted by Jasb

Have a friend who’s on the “list” for one. He got the call and was told he needed to spend 10k in the store to get his watch and he did it. Can anyone please tell me what the difference is?

The first is bribery, the second blackmailing.

[omar-rye]

Originally Posted by Moonwatcher

The first is bribery, the second blackmailing.

True

[bluestreak]

Originally Posted by Moonwatcher

The first is bribery, the second blackmailing.

Neither statement is true. Bribery and blackmail are crimes.

[Moonwatcher]

Originally Posted by bluestreak

Neither statement is true. Bribery and blackmail are crimes.

That’s exactly what i meant.

[Gberg]

Originally Posted by Moonwatcher

The first is bribery, the second blackmailing.

This made me LOL. I wanted to acknowledge that.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by Jasb

Have a friend who’s on the “list” for one. He got the call and was told he needed to spend 10k in the store to get his watch and he did it. Can anyone please tell me what the difference is?

Then your friend has more money than sence,or must be sixpence short of a shilling to spend a extra 10k to get any watch.

[PeteNYC13]

Originally Posted by padi56

Then your friend has more money than sence,or must be sixpence short of a shilling to spend a extra 10k to get any watch.

While I 100% agree with you and would never pay over retail for a current model watch, how is this any different than one of the "Trusted Sellers" on here that charge $10k over MSRP and "we" all line up to applaud them?

[Hollie_Rollie]

Originally Posted by PeteNYC13

While I 100% agree with you and would never pay over retail for a current model watch, how is this any different than one of the "Trusted Sellers" on here that charge $10k over MSRP and "we" all line up to applaud them?

There’s absolutely no difference. If you spend 20k net on a grey market purchase for a watch vs spending 10k on a watch and 10k on jewelry at an AD.

Spending 20k at an AD is actually a better use of your resources because it helps build spend history and a relationship.

Don’t forget the used watch dealers are sponsors here.


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[PeteNYC13]

Originally Posted by Hollie_Rollie

There’s absolutely no difference. If you spend 20k net on a grey market purchase for a watch vs spending 10k on a watch and 10k on jewelry at an AD.

Spending 20k at an AD is actually a better use of your resources because it helps build spend history and a relationship.

Don’t forget the used watch dealers are sponsors here.


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Well, that and you get $10k in jewelry - which, if selected wisely can make a happy wife as well as a good "investment"

I would argue (correctly), you are better off spending the extra money with the AD.

Both options stink but one is definitely the lessor of evils

[padi56]

Originally Posted by PeteNYC13

While I 100% agree with you and would never pay over retail for a current model watch, how is this any different than one of the "Trusted Sellers" on here that charge $10k over MSRP and "we" all line up to applaud them?

Well that's up to the person willing to pay, myself would never applaud any seller charging 10k over retail.But today Rolex watches have become little more than ££€€$$ object things and little more, now sold to the highest bidder willing to pay.

[messikens]

Originally Posted by padi56

Well that's up to the person willing to pay, myself would never applaud any seller charging 10k over retail.But today Rolex watches have become little more than ££€€$$ object things and little more, now sold to the highest bidder willing to pay.

I was concerned the canned response wouldn't come any longer but thankfully I stand corrected and can now sleep at night knowing that the record is still broken! 🥹

[Jasb]

Originally Posted by padi56

Then your friend has more money than sence,or must be sixpence short of a shilling to spend a extra 10k to get any watch.

Well if the going rate on grey is $30k, I’d say he made a good deal…and got it new from an AD.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by Jasb

Well if the going rate on grey is $30k, I’d say he made a good deal…and got it new from an AD.

First ask yourself this why are some willing to pay crazy money for watches like the Daytona.As the Daytona must be the most hyped Rolex watch ever.And although it's always been hard to get at retail,mainly because of Daytona hype.Yes it has a great movement but must be many thousands of them in this world today,and all basically the same except for a few purely cosmetic details.And if there was no hype over the Daytona it would not be the premium price,and if people stopped paying these silly money for them, prices would go down,but today Rolex watches have become just ££€€$$ objects and little more today.

[Jasb]

Originally Posted by padi56

First ask yourself this why are some willing to pay crazy money for watches like the Daytona.As the Daytona must be the most hyped Rolex watch ever.And although it's always been hard to get at retail,mainly because of Daytona hype.Yes it has a great movement but must be many thousands of them in this world today,and all basically the same except for a few purely cosmetic details.And if there was no hype over the Daytona it would not be the premium price,and if people stopped paying these silly money for them, prices would go down,but today Rolex watches have become just ££€€$$ objects and little more today.

I get that, but he wanted it, he has the money, now he has it from an AD and less than grey….win for him.