Patek Philippe introduces the 2024 Only Watch 6301A

[APhound]

Would this be safe to wear in Europe? Asking for a friend.


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[dlmocdm]

Originally Posted by APhound

Would this be safe to wear in Europe? Asking for a friend.


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[ButtButt]

Stunning piece, love it.

[eggonawindow]

Accidentally typed the wrong reference. The fact that you knew which reference I was actually talking about proves my point that true connoisseurs know this is an a + b = c watch. As far as the interior angles - sure there’s a few. But regardless I think we can agree it’s nowhere near good enough.
As an aside, pateks recent price increases and increased margin should be reinvested in finishing and movement quality.
Let me ask you this ? If you are so confident in the superiority of Pateks minute repeaters, why did you not buy one when given the chance?

Eggonawindow

[eggonawindow]

Originally Posted by Ichiran

It's 5178G, not 5168G. The small difference of 10 made a world of difference.

You decided to buy a three hander instead of a minute repeater. That tells me everything I have to know about your knowledge and taste in watches. Despite my constructive criticism over this Only Watch piece, choosing a 3 hander over a Patek minute repeater is about as disrespectful as it gets to Patek (despite the whole , ‘my wallet my choice’). Patek’s minute repeaters are currently amongst greatest watches in the world and deserve to be critiqued with that in mind

Eggonawindow

[Watchdoyouwant?]

Originally Posted by eggonawindow

You decided to buy a three hander instead of a minute repeater. That tells me everything I have to know about your knowledge and taste in watches. Despite my constructive criticism over this Only Watch piece, choosing a 3 hander over a Patek minute repeater is about as disrespectful as it gets to Patek (despite the whole , ‘my wallet my choice’). Patek’s minute repeaters are currently amongst greatest watches in the world and deserve to be critiqued with that in mind

Eggonawindow

Are you trolling? You sound like you're trolling.

Are you really saying not buying a MR is "about as disrespectful as it gets" but suggesting that Patek "spent five minutes" on the 6301A is "constructive" criticism? Really?

Of course Patek combined elements of different models into the 6301A. A new case material and dial is pretty normal for a Watches and Wonders submission.

[pam66]

Originally Posted by Ichiran

The usual hater "group's" favourite topics are lack of innovation, lack of water resistance, lack of finishing, too expensive (at same price you can get many G-Shocks), older Pateks are better, lack of 10-year warranty and not safe to wear on the streets.

haha i like that! you surely also know what the favorite topics of PP cheerleaders are.

[subtona]

Such a fantastic watch.

[eggonawindow]

Originally Posted by Watchdoyouwant?

Are you trolling? You sound like you're trolling.

Are you really saying not buying a MR is "about as disrespectful as it gets" but suggesting that Patek "spent five minutes" on the 6301A is "constructive" criticism? Really?

Of course Patek combined elements of different models into the 6301A. A new case material and dial is pretty normal for a Watches and Wonders submission.

Yes indeed I am because the gentleman in question is buying a 3 hander for 20% more money than a MR. We all know the 3 hander in question is Phillipe Dufour Simplicity.
Why buy a Phillipe dufour time only over a Patek minute repeater? It’s evident reasons such as hand finishing (hand done guilloche dials, handworked anglage) come into play because a minute repeater is leagues above a 3 hander. Yet when I mention those factors, he suddenly doesn’t care about them.
Dont get me wrong , I love Patek minute repeaters. In fact, the 6301P is my favourite. Hence why I criticise the 6301A because I feel that there is 0 innovation in neither the dial nor the movement .
Whats ironic is the 6301P is a play on Phillipe Dufours grande and petite sonnerie. I would advise you and the gentleman in question to read up about them (there are only 8 in the world). Then come back to me and tell me how good the 6301A is.
You know what I think should’ve been released as a unique piece? A version of the 5308P. What a watch. That is Patek at its best - split seconds perpetual calendar chronograph minute repeater . Not copying dufours designs and changing dials .
Why did Patek not invent the grand and petite sonnerie? It could’ve . Now it has the opportunity to go further with a 3rd sonnerie for minute chimes.

Eggonawindow

[Watchdoyouwant?]

Originally Posted by eggonawindow

Yes indeed I am because the gentleman in question is buying a 3 hander for 20% more money than a MR. We all know the 3 hander in question is Phillipe Dufour Simplicity.
Why buy a Phillipe dufour time only over a Patek minute repeater? It’s evident reasons such as hand finishing (hand done guilloche dials, handworked anglage) come into play because a minute repeater is leagues above a 3 hander. Yet when I mention those factors, he suddenly doesn’t care about them.
Dont get me wrong , I love Patek minute repeaters. In fact, the 6301P is my favourite. Hence why I criticise the 6301A because I feel that there is 0 innovation in neither the dial nor the movement .
Whats ironic is the 6301P is a play on Phillipe Dufours grande and petite sonnerie. I would advise you and the gentleman in question to read up about them (there are only 8 in the world). Then come back to me and tell me how good the 6301A is.
You know what I think should’ve been released as a unique piece? A version of the 5308P. What a watch. That is Patek at its best - split seconds perpetual calendar chronograph minute repeater . Not copying dufours designs and changing dials .
Why did Patek not invent the grand and petite sonnerie? It could’ve . Now it has the opportunity to go further with a 3rd sonnerie for minute chimes.

Eggonawindow

If Patek came back with a one off 5308, I somehow suspect you would be complaining that this release is too similar to what Patek did in 2017 when it offered the 5208T--which had the same movement at the 5208P--just with a different dial and titanium case.

[eggonawindow]

Originally Posted by Watchdoyouwant?

If Patek came back with a one off 5308, I somehow suspect you would be complaining that this release is too similar to what Patek did in 2017 when it offered the 5208T--which had the same movement at the 5208P--just with a different dial and titanium case.

Whataboutery. You had nothing to say against my (objectively and subjectively) correct post.
Time to swallow your pride and see the world as it really is

[Watchdoyouwant?]

Originally Posted by eggonawindow

Whataboutery. You had nothing to say against my (objectively and subjectively) correct post.
Time to swallow your pride and see the world as it really is

And I'm now even more confident you're trolling. You say Patek should have released a version of the 5308P. Fine. What's a version if not a different dial and case?

Did you or did you not approve of the 5208T when it was "just" a different version of the 5208P with "only" a different dial and case material? "Zero innovation" as you would put it.

[eggonawindow]

I’m not trolling, the 5208P and 5308Ps have in house produced movements that are unique to Pateks DNA. The 6301A has a movement copied off Phillipe Dufour with half of the finishing quality . I’m not sure what your point here is .

[Ichiran]

Originally Posted by eggonawindow

You decided to buy a three hander instead of a minute repeater. That tells me everything I have to know about your knowledge and taste in watches. Despite my constructive criticism over this Only Watch piece, choosing a 3 hander over a Patek minute repeater is about as disrespectful as it gets to Patek (despite the whole , ‘my wallet my choice’). Patek’s minute repeaters are currently amongst greatest watches in the world and deserve to be critiqued with that in mind

I corrected an information you posted wrongly and in return I get these personal attacks on my taste.

Originally Posted by eggonawindow

Yes indeed I am because the gentleman in question is buying a 3 hander for 20% more money than a MR. We all know the 3 hander in question is Phillipe Dufour Simplicity.

I just learnt from your post above that I have bought a Simplicity. Tell me more about me please?

Originally Posted by eggonawindow

The 6301A has a movement copied off Phillipe Dufour with half of the finishing quality.

Fair enough, I will go and "read" more about the 5168G.

[Watchdoyouwant?]

Originally Posted by eggonawindow

I’m not trolling, the 5208P and 5308Ps have in house produced movements that are unique to Pateks DNA. The 6301A has a movement copied off Phillipe Dufour with half of the finishing quality . I’m not sure what your point here is .

You posted earlier in the thread that the 6301P is your favorite minute repeater.

Now you malign it as watch with a copied movement.

You’re clearly just spouting off to be contrary. If you’re going to spout off, at least be consistent.

[eggonawindow]

Originally Posted by Watchdoyouwant?

You posted earlier in the thread that the 6301P is your favorite minute repeater.

Now you malign it as watch with a copied movement.

You’re clearly just spouting off to be contrary. If you’re going to spout off, at least be consistent.

Ok fair enough, I’ll go work on myself.
Until next time,

Eggonawindow

[dynamograph]

The 6301 isn't just a minute repeater; it is a clockwatch with a trip minute repeater.

Clockwatches chime under their own in power in passing, think of it as a very small grandfather clock. To do this they normally have a second barrel and train just for the strikes.
- In “grande sonnerie” mode it strikes the hours on the hours and the hours + quarters on the quarters.
- In “petite sonnerie” mode strikes the hours on the hours and only the quarters on the quarters.
- In "silence" mode it doesn't chime
- A trip repeater chimes the time on demand without needing to charge a slide

The 6301 is Patek's second most complicated wristwatch, behind the 5175 & 6300--it takes more effort to make one of these movements than it does the movement for a sky-moon-tourbillon.

[dynamograph]

Originally Posted by eggonawindow

I’m not trolling, the 5208P and 5308Ps have in house produced movements that are unique to Pateks DNA. The 6301A has a movement copied off Phillipe Dufour with half of the finishing quality . I’m not sure what your point here is .

Just to be clear, the movement in the 6301 has nothing to do with Dufour's grande sonneries.

Dufour used a late 18th century vallee de joux design, while the movement in the 6301 was designed by Patek for the grandmaster chime.

[bob101]

It is a beautifully finished piece but a piece unique for a charity auction.
We don’t all need to like every release from Patek and every watch they design isn’t for everyone of course. Some modern pieces won’t please the traditionalist and vice versa. There will be fan boys who “love” everything Patek release to keep their ADs happy and then more cynical folk who say the good old days of Patek have come and gone. The reality is probably somewhere in between.
It’s clear the last few years of their production releases have been largely uninspiring.

What would be nice would be with the ever higher and higher pieces they are charging for like the likes of 5226, 6119 calatrava and mid tier complications such as 5396, 5205,5326g, we see some of these traditional techniques and beautiful finishing back in at production level not just top tier one off pieces.

[RRJ]

That's one wild thread lol.

I love the piece. It just makes me wish for more handfinishing on the "cheaper" Patek models. This watch proves that they absolutely still do have the know-how to finish like some of the best in the business. Why not show us more of that :)?

[Andad]

Originally Posted by eggonawindow

Yes indeed I am because the gentleman in question is buying a 3 hander for 20% more money than a MR. We all know the 3 hander in question is Phillipe Dufour Simplicity.
Why buy a Phillipe dufour time only over a Patek minute repeater? It’s evident reasons such as hand finishing (hand done guilloche dials, handworked anglage) come into play because a minute repeater is leagues above a 3 hander. Yet when I mention those factors, he suddenly doesn’t care about them.
Dont get me wrong , I love Patek minute repeaters. In fact, the 6301P is my favourite. Hence why I criticise the 6301A because I feel that there is 0 innovation in neither the dial nor the movement .
Whats ironic is the 6301P is a play on Phillipe Dufours grande and petite sonnerie. I would advise you and the gentleman in question to read up about them (there are only 8 in the world). Then come back to me and tell me how good the 6301A is.
You know what I think should’ve been released as a unique piece? A version of the 5308P. What a watch. That is Patek at its best - split seconds perpetual calendar chronograph minute repeater . Not copying dufours designs and changing dials .
Why did Patek not invent the grand and petite sonnerie? It could’ve . Now it has the opportunity to go further with a 3rd sonnerie for minute chimes.

Eggonawindow

What do you mean?

[Jb1264]

I love it
However the ‘Only One’ shouldn’t be the dial and display back

[dauster]

Do you guys think these guys worry as much about the only watch release ?? and they can actually buy it ;)




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[321Forever]

Originally Posted by dauster

Do you guys think these guys worry as much about the only watch release ?? and they can actually buy it ;)




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Oh right, I forgot all about Patek’s Brand Ambassadors.

[Partekular]

Patek has priced its Only Watch to obtain top dog media status but it has been pipped at the horological post by the Les Cabinotiers Berkley Grand Complication.

Let’s hope the proceeds go to a good cause. Well done Patek on its generosity.

[Encepholopod]

I feel Patek gave their best of everything on this piece. The dial color is rich and the pattern is subtly alluring. The exhibition in this case back is flawless, huge fan of this new release. The only 2 recent release's I feel that can compete with the new VC releases are this beauty and the new Duometre Heliotourbillon Perpetual.