5712/1A, 57261/A, or 5811G?

[mickyd329]

I'm curious as to which white metal Nautilus this group would choose if given the opportunity. Assuming that you can get these pieces at retail from your AD, which would you choose and why? 5712/1A, 5726/1A, or 5811G..

[Ichiran]

It will be a tough choice between the 5726 and the 5811. Ultimately I prefer the blue dial of the 5811. No bad choices here really.

[Chute]

5712. Same dimensions as steel 5711 but with more complications. The 5726 is too chunky for me. And the idea of making daily watches out of gold like the 5811 and new 5168g and 5146g is a real turnoff for me. Patek making them in white gold makes me feel like it’s a cash grab.

[Flex368]

Originally Posted by Chute

5712. Same dimensions as steel 5711 but with more complications.

This.

[strettyend]

5712

[EUguy]

5712

[southlight]

5726

[ts3]

5712 or try to get a 5740/1G from your AD.

[dpj17]

5712

[l_chissle]

5740

[Vince_76]

5712

[DK7]

5712

[pav333hp]

Wow! I'm really surprised at the pole so far, and that 5712A is leading 2x over 5811G.... Genuinely curious why? I have both and personally prefer the 5811G, but to each is own.

[strettyend]

Originally Posted by ts3

5712 or try to get a 5740/1G from your AD.

Changing my vote to this if it’s on the table lol

[mickyd329]

Originally Posted by pav333hp

Wow! I'm really surprised at the pole so far, and that 5712A is leading 2x over 5811G.... Genuinely curious why? I have both and personally prefer the 5811G, but to each is own.

I'm really surprised too. I anticipated the 5726 would come in 3rd, but I really thought it would be a lot closer between the 5811 and 5712.

Originally Posted by strettyend

Changing my vote to this if it’s on the table lol

LOL. I left 5740 out due to the price difference and rarity.

[chimp98]

5712 every time this question gets asked every other month. The higher complication yet still maintaining the slim profile of the 5811 make this an easy choice. The 5726 is way too thick imo.

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[cascavel]

The closer to the original, the better, so 5811 for me. On a sport watch I can tolerate a sport complication which limits it to a chronograph but the annual calendar and moon phase seem better suited to Patek's many gentleman's timepieces.

[rmlovett1]

Tough choice. For it’d be narrowed down to two. 5712 or 5726….flip a coin at that point. Sorry, not much help.

[Daytonaman799]

No bad choices…I went with 5712 bec it’s thin and complicated but I would really go for a t740. Ticks off everything in the Nautilus category. For the record I own a 5726 and a 5723 and tried swapping for a 5740 even up.

[goog53]

12A then 11G and a DISTANT 3rd the 26A. Too thick IMO and I don’t like the AC Complication

[l_chissle]

Originally Posted by mickyd329

LOL. I left 5740 out due to the price difference and rarity.

5740 will match the level of your AP collection.

I also think 5740 is probably easier to get than a 5811

[mickyd329]

Originally Posted by l_chissle

5740 will match the level of your AP collection.

I also think 5740 is probably easier to get than a 5811

I wish.. I have no dreams about my AD allocating me a 5740 as my first Nautilus. I'd be more than happy with the 12 or 26 as my first.

You feel the 5811 is harder to get than the 5740?

[l_chissle]

Originally Posted by mickyd329

I wish.. I have no dreams about my AD allocating me a 5740 as my first Nautilus. I'd be more than happy with the 12 or 26 as my first.

You feel the 5811 is harder to get than the 5740?

Once you have a relationship going, 5740 is easier for sure (based on what I have been told and also friends). 5811 has higher production big significantly imbalanced demand. 5740 has lower production, but they work their way through "the list" eventually. I think you 'qualify' for the list for the 5740 at the same time as 5811 (all my read of things)

[rolexpatek363]

5712 mainly because of the 240 base calibre.

Plus I own one, so voted with my wallet also.

[ts3]

Originally Posted by l_chissle

Once you have a relationship going, 5740 is easier for sure (based on what I have been told and also friends). 5811 has higher production big significantly imbalanced demand. 5740 has lower production, but they work their way through "the list" eventually. I think you 'qualify' for the list for the 5740 at the same time as 5811 (all my read of things)

I would think demand vs supply for specific refs is a very regional thing. In highly affluent markets - thinking NY, LA, Bay Area, HK, Singapore - the 5740 may be harder to get relative to cheaper Nautilus than in less affluent areas.

That said, my (thanks to Patek now former) German AD would have supported your view above. When I wanted to add a micro rotor Nautilus to my 5711 a few years ago they said 5712/1A would be harder than 5740 for demand generally slowing above 50k and a lot again above 100k.

[pav333hp]

Originally Posted by mickyd329

You feel the 5811 is harder to get than the 5740?

. I was told my 3 different Patek ADs that 5811G is one Nautilus that requires approval from Patek Geneva, and they have to approve an allocation for each client, while for other Nautilus models, ADs have discretion on allocation.

Patek does give ADs guidance on type of client to allocate to, but they don't need approval to allocate one. So this makes me think that even if there are less 5740's compared to 5811, the 5811 is harder due to required approval.

[masochistsr]

What is the appeal of the 5712's complications? I don't find a power reserve particularly useful, and a moon phase even less so. I also prefer a date aperture over a date subdial for legibility. I voted 5811 as I own a 5711.

[lovewatches1987]

I voted for 5811 because it is a precious metal so it feels better than steel. Second choice would be 5726 because dial has symmetrical layout which is more aesthetically pleasing for my taste, as well as useful day-date function

[mickyd329]

[QUOTE=pav333hp;13238351]. I was told my 3 different Patek ADs that 5811G is one Nautilus that requires approval from Patek Geneva, and they have to approve an allocation for each client, while for other Nautilus models, ADs have discretion on allocation.

Thanks for the info. That is very useful. I won't have to worry about that Geneva approval for a while. lol...

Originally Posted by lovewatches1987

I voted for 5811 because it is a precious metal so it feels better than steel. Second choice would be 5726 because dial has symmetrical layout which is more aesthetically pleasing for my taste, as well as useful day-date function

I'm in the same boat here, but I wouldn't hesitate for one second taking a 5712 allocation either as I do like this reference also. Just preference would be 5811, 5726, and 5712 in that order.

Originally Posted by l_chissle

Once you have a relationship going, 5740 is easier for sure (based on what I have been told and also friends). 5811 has higher production big significantly imbalanced demand. 5740 has lower production, but they work their way through "the list" eventually. I think you 'qualify' for the list for the 5740 at the same time as 5811 (all my read of things)

Great info. Thanks. My profile has a long ways to go still. My spend with my AD is only around $110k between two PP's and a Rolex. I moved my Rolex requests to them in the last year hoping to build my overall spend with them. I'm just hoping for a white metal Nautilus allocation as my next piece. I'm not sure my spend history is even strong enough for that, but if you don't ask yo u don't get...lol.

[gummy]

Can't go wrong with any of your choices

Owning all 3 - for me the 5811 gets the most wrist time.

I may be in the minority, but I do like the layout of the AC on the 5726.

The 5712 gets the least wrist time, probably because my example has the "previous" clasp without the 2mm micro adjustment. If you are able to get a 5712 new from AD - it would have a great chance of having the updated clasp.