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idc · 17 July 2014, 07:05 AM

I was asked today how many carats were the diamonds on the dial of my DJ2

Does anybody know just out of curiosity?

alubin · 17 July 2014, 07:06 AM

A picture of the bezel would be a good start. You can also google fairly easily.

idc · 17 July 2014, 07:08 AM

Sorry I had to upload pics from my phone

Tried googling it but I couldn't find any info.

I imagine not much, but would be good to know.

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Keith1 · 17 July 2014, 07:11 AM

It's a diamond dial, not bezel. Rolex does not release the carat weight for any of their dials, or bezels.

idc · 17 July 2014, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Keith1

It's a diamond dial, not bezel. Rolex does not release the carat weight for any of their dials, or bezels.

Yes my bad you are totally right. So there is no way of finding out?

ExplorerChris · 17 July 2014, 07:13 AM

You could probably get a gem guy to look at it and give his best educated guess but I doubt Rolex will allow that information to be made public

Keith1 · 17 July 2014, 07:20 AM

I have been told they are internally flawless, a D or E color, fully faceted, and a brilliant cut. I would guess they are about .05 carat each.

enginerd · 17 July 2014, 07:25 AM

Sorry, but you don't have a DD2...hopefully you didn't pay DD2 price!

Keith1 · 17 July 2014, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by enginerd

Sorry, but you don't have a DD2...hopefully you didn't pay DD2 price!

Did you mean to say DJ2?

Kyu · 17 July 2014, 07:44 AM

I'd like a DDII at the price of a DJII

REFZ · 17 July 2014, 07:49 AM

Maybe you can compare the size of the diamonds with the diamonds in some kind of ring at a jeweler to get an estimate about the total carats.

Kyu · 17 July 2014, 08:25 AM

Rolex uses the finest gems, ones that whole salers can't even get their hands on

Diamonds are offered to brands like Rolex,Cartier etc etc first.

Occasionally they'll auction them off to whole sales or private jewelers.

So knowing exact grading and weight would be a little difficult. But the new dials of DJII are about 2-3 cts

idc · 17 July 2014, 08:37 AM

I'm new to this yes I meant DJ2 sorry! Making a lot of mistakes here lol

Keith1 · 17 July 2014, 10:18 AM

If they are .05 carat each X 10 diamonds, you would have a half carat total.

ExplorerChris · 17 July 2014, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Keith1

If they are .05 carat each X 10 diamonds, you would have a half carat total.

x2

Keith1 · 17 July 2014, 11:55 AM

[QUOTE=Kyu; But the new dials of DJII are about 2-3 cts[/QUOTE]

That would make each stone .2 carat (20 points) or .3 carat (30 points) each. No way are they even close to this size.

alubin · 17 July 2014, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyu

Rolex uses the finest gems, ones that whole salers can't even get their hands on

Diamonds are offered to brands like Rolex,Cartier etc etc first.

Occasionally they'll auction them off to whole sales or private jewelers.

So knowing exact grading and weight would be a little difficult. But the new dials of DJII are about 2-3 cts

The quality part is definitely true, but I can't imagine the dials have a 2-3 carat weight. The factory diamond bezel is probably only 3 carats...

Kyu · 17 July 2014, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by alubin

The quality part is definitely true, but I can't imagine the dials have a 2-3 carat weight. The factory diamond bezel is probably only 3 carats...

I could be mistaken with the exclusive dials with the larger markers lol

Thought the factory bezel is more than 3 closer to 5-6

padi56 · 17 July 2014, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Keith1

If they are .05 carat each X 10 diamonds, you would have a half carat total.

Thats about right and perhaps even a bit less,when you get .03Ct-.05Ct size diamonds although good quality cost wise not a huge price when bought in volume..But the extra labour and time to set and match the diamonds in the dial that's quite costly then quite a huge mark up in price by Rolex.

padi56 · 17 July 2014, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyu

Rolex uses the finest gems, ones that whole salers can't even get their hands on

Diamonds are offered to brands like Rolex,Cartier etc etc first.

Occasionally they'll auction them off to whole sales or private jewelers.

So knowing exact grading and weight would be a little difficult. But the new dials of DJII are about 2-3 cts

Not true in all departments.

crowncollection · 17 July 2014, 08:52 PM

Diamond dials about half a carat. 36 mm bezel is 1.1 ct.

REFZ · 17 July 2014, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by padi56

Not true in all departments.

Can you please explain why it isn't true and how things work on this subject?

Alpino · 19 July 2014, 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith1

It's a diamond dial, not bezel. Rolex does not release the carat weight for any of their dials, or bezels.

Rolex official price list (in the countries where Rolex distribute it to customers) give the exact carat value for all bezels , bracelets and case, unfortunately not for dials.

Ex. for UK :

1bad750 · 19 July 2014, 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyu

Rolex uses the finest gems, ones that whole salers can't even get their hands on

Diamonds are offered to brands like Rolex,Cartier etc etc first.

Occasionally they'll auction them off to whole sales or private jewelers.

So knowing exact grading and weight would be a little difficult. But the new dials of DJII are about 2-3 cts

everything you say is incorrect,

Knappo 1307 · 19 July 2014, 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by idc

I'm new to this yes I meant DJ2 sorry! Making a lot of mistakes here lol

You said DJII, you were right. The other guy just can't read...

idc · 19 July 2014, 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knappo 1307

You said DJII, you were right. The other guy just can't read...

I edited it mate!

Abaco24 · 16 December 2023, 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by idc

I was asked today how many carats were the diamonds on the dial of my DJ2

Does anybody know just out of curiosity?

It depends on the size of the diamonds chosen, but on a typical Datejust 36mm, about 1.3 cts total - the bezels can range from 1-4 cts total, and of course, the number of diamonds in the bezel would vary based on the diamond size and bezel diameter.

padi56 · 16 December 2023, 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith1

If they are .05 carat each X 10 diamonds, you would have a half carat total.

Exactly that for dials on bezels around the same or less CT weight.

jimcameron · 16 December 2023, 05:35 AM

Guys worrying about the value of tiny diamonds in mid tier watches. Epic.

MovieGuy · 16 December 2023, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith1

I have been told they are internally flawless, a D or E color, fully faceted, and a brilliant cut. I would guess they are about .05 carat each.

Diamonds on the dial are single cut, not full cut.

17 July 2014, 07:05 AM	#1
idc "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: England Watch: DateJust II Posts: 36	How many carats in a diamond bezel? I was asked today how many carats were the diamonds on the dial of my DJ2 Does anybody know just out of curiosity?

17 July 2014, 07:13 AM	#6
ExplorerChris "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Real Name: Chris Location: Ontario, Canada Watch: Explorer II 16550 Posts: 1,401	You could probably get a gem guy to look at it and give his best educated guess but I doubt Rolex will allow that information to be made public __________________ There's a crown for every achievement A Watch Is Just A Watch A Rolex Is A Timepiece

17 July 2014, 07:49 AM	#11
REFZ "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Real Name: Martin Location: Netherlands Watch: The Rolex Way Posts: 1,471	Maybe you can compare the size of the diamonds with the diamonds in some kind of ring at a jeweler to get an estimate about the total carats. __________________ 114060 - 116520 - 126334

17 July 2014, 08:52 PM	#21
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,165	Diamond dials about half a carat. 36 mm bezel is 1.1 ct. __________________ watches many

17 July 2014, 07:06 AM	#2
alubin "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: USA Watch: All please! Posts: 1,042	A picture of the bezel would be a good start. You can also google fairly easily.

17 July 2014, 07:08 AM	#3
idc "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: England Watch: DateJust II Posts: 36	Sorry I had to upload pics from my phone Tried googling it but I couldn't find any info. I imagine not much, but would be good to know. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

17 July 2014, 07:11 AM	#4
Keith1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: San Diego Watch: Sub-C blue, DSSD Posts: 2,482	It's a diamond dial, not bezel. Rolex does not release the carat weight for any of their dials, or bezels.

17 July 2014, 07:20 AM	#7
Keith1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: San Diego Watch: Sub-C blue, DSSD Posts: 2,482	I have been told they are internally flawless, a D or E color, fully faceted, and a brilliant cut. I would guess they are about .05 carat each.

17 July 2014, 07:25 AM	#8
enginerd "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Real Name: Nathan Location: Denver, CO Watch: Too many Posts: 1,008	Sorry, but you don't have a DD2...hopefully you didn't pay DD2 price!

17 July 2014, 07:44 AM	#10
Kyu "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Real Name: yes.. it's Kyu Location: Los Angeles Watch: Rolex 116759SANR Posts: 1,499	I'd like a DDII at the price of a DJII

17 July 2014, 08:25 AM	#12
Kyu "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Real Name: yes.. it's Kyu Location: Los Angeles Watch: Rolex 116759SANR Posts: 1,499	Rolex uses the finest gems, ones that whole salers can't even get their hands on Diamonds are offered to brands like Rolex,Cartier etc etc first. Occasionally they'll auction them off to whole sales or private jewelers. So knowing exact grading and weight would be a little difficult. But the new dials of DJII are about 2-3 cts

17 July 2014, 08:37 AM	#13
idc "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: England Watch: DateJust II Posts: 36	I'm new to this yes I meant DJ2 sorry! Making a lot of mistakes here lol

17 July 2014, 10:18 AM	#14
Keith1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: San Diego Watch: Sub-C blue, DSSD Posts: 2,482	If they are .05 carat each X 10 diamonds, you would have a half carat total.

17 July 2014, 11:55 AM	#16
Keith1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: San Diego Watch: Sub-C blue, DSSD Posts: 2,482	[QUOTE=Kyu; But the new dials of DJII are about 2-3 cts[/QUOTE] That would make each stone .2 carat (20 points) or .3 carat (30 points) each. No way are they even close to this size.

16 December 2023, 05:35 AM	#29
jimcameron "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: ByDawns Earlylite Watch: 16800 Posts: 3,536	Guys worrying about the value of tiny diamonds in mid tier watches. Epic.

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