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Old 23 March 2010, 09:00 AM   #1
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How to spot a fake Oyster Perpetual?

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Hey guys! I planned on purchasing both of those real soon and I was curious how exactly do you tell if they are fakes? I know the weight of a Rolex feels heavy for a watch and something about the Magnifying Glass. Anyone have any tips to spotting a fake Oyster Perpetual?
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Old 23 March 2010, 10:36 AM   #2
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Welcome to TRF..

We are a discussion forum for authentic Rolex watches, not fakes..

Learn what the real one looks and feels like, and you will likely never be fooled...

There are plenty of other Forums dedicated to replicas if you are interested.............
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Old 23 March 2010, 10:41 AM   #3
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The surefire way to know if it isn't a fake is to buy from an AD (authorised dealer). If you're looking to buy from the grey market, do your research beforehand, and buy the seller, not the watch
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Old 23 March 2010, 10:45 AM   #4
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I know the weight of a Rolex feels heavy for a watch
When I got my Submariner, I though just the opposite. "Boy is this thing light"
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Old 23 March 2010, 11:06 AM   #5
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The surefire way to know if it isn't a fake is to buy from an AD (authorised dealer)...
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Old 23 March 2010, 12:03 PM   #6
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Thanks, I heard something about the Second hand never ticking but moving non-stop. And I wasnt looking to buy a replica I just wanted to know the differance so I dont get scammed.
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Thanks, I heard something about the Second hand never ticking but moving non-stop. And I wasnt looking to buy a replica I just wanted to know the differance so I dont get scammed.
Well, no high beat mechanical watch ticks once per second. Modern Rolex movements beat 28800 times per hour, which works out at 8 times per second, which gives the impression of a sweep. Unfortunately, that's no guarantee of a genuine Rolex - if you do your digging on replicas, you'll see that they are upping the ante on their deception. On another note, the only movement with a perfect sweep hand motion is the Seiko spring drive range.

My best advice is to actually hold one in your hand, play with it, examine it under a loupe. Once again, best place to do it is an AD
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Old 23 March 2010, 12:11 PM   #8
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Well, no high beat mechanical watch ticks once per second. Modern Rolex movements beat 28800 times per hour, which works out at 8 times per second, which gives the impression of a sweep. Unfortunately, that's no guarantee of a genuine Rolex - if you do your digging on replicas, you'll see that they are upping the ante on their deception. On another note, the only movement with a perfect sweep hand motion is the Seiko spring drive range.

My best advice is to actually hold one in your hand, play with it, examine it under a loupe. Once again, best place to do it is an AD
Thanks mate, yeah I should buy it from a AD instead of the net, way to many scammers out there.
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Old 23 March 2010, 12:16 PM   #9
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Thanks mate, yeah I should buy it from a AD instead of the net, way to many scammers out there.
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Old 23 March 2010, 02:32 PM   #10
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Thanks, I heard something about the Second hand never ticking but moving non-stop. And I wasnt looking to buy a replica I just wanted to know the differance so I dont get scammed.
Well, then it's good to get an education... The OP is a tough one to detect as it isn't studied as much as others..

Today, fakes use a high beat movement, just like Rolex... this myth is a carryover from when fakes used quartz movements in Rolex market cases... You cannot tell by watching the hands any more..

The magnifier on Rolex is usually badly done and the date will not "fill the cyclops" like it does on a Rolex.... frequently a tell.

Rolex also uses solid gold, so there will not be any plating, and the font on the dial is crisp with no fuzzy stenciled edges..

Still, the best way is to look at the movement as nobody makes a fake Rolex movement......... but you have to know what the real thing looks like first.....
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Old 23 March 2010, 03:00 PM   #11
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it's by knowing the real ones intimately that you can spot the false.
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Old 23 March 2010, 03:58 PM   #12
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I've only seen a few counterfeit Rolex watches and in every case, they were shabby and I would hope that anybody could tell the real from the fake.

I guess, however, that if you've never seen or handled the real thing, then even shabby workmanship might not be the dead giveaway.

I think the best way to get a surefire Rolex is to buy one from an AD.

When you've owned the real thing and you've studied up on the subject on boards like this and have taken the time to visit ADs to try on some other models, then you might consider the used and the gray markets.

Your first Rolex is a very special thing and knowing that your specimen is both bona fide and virgin is a good way to start.
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Old 23 March 2010, 04:38 PM   #13
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I think the best way to get a surefire Rolex is to buy one from an AD.
That is what Rolex wants one to believe; some of us know better.
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Old 23 March 2010, 04:48 PM   #14
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Old 23 March 2010, 06:01 PM   #15
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slightly off topic, but I've noticed that with some of the fake daytonas in Shanghai that the subdial represents the date rather than a chronograph function - must have got the shipments of fake movements all mixed up...
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Why are we even discussing these TURDS! TRF is not a site to discuss this rubbish....
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Old 23 March 2010, 07:39 PM   #17
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Why are we even discussing these TURDS! TRF is not a site to discuss this rubbish....
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Nothing wrong with helping out a future owner...
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Old 23 March 2010, 09:39 PM   #19
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There seems to have been a lot of this sort of talk on the forums recently.
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