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Lol-x · 20 January 2008, 11:41 AM

DateJust Reference Numbers:

Date of production:
The Rolex Date Just was introduced in 1945 as model 4467 and was to become the Flagship of the Rolex Line until the Day Date unseated it a decade later. The DateJust is still in production.

It was initially introduced as the DateJust Jubilee, however, the Jubilee title somehow only became associated with the bracelet. Originally offered in a coin edged version, the fluted bezel came along shortly afterward in 1957.

Some milestones for the DJ:
. 1954.... Introduction of the cyclops
. 1956.... First time another braclet besides the Jubilee offered (Oyster, Jubilee, or strap)
. 1957.... Offered in Stainless Steel
. 1962.... Introduction of the Two Tone models

The Two Tone Datejust has remained largely unchanged (aesthetically) for the past ~60 years and is probably the most copied watch ever introduced.

Movement:

Power Reserve:

Photographs:

Links:
Rolex Website - DateJust

Lexor · 6 June 2008, 11:32 AM

The Datejust had a movement change from the 16013 to 16233 to 28.8 bps, this was considered a major upgrade at the time since the new movement came with a sapphire crystal.

jtvision · 3 October 2008, 08:38 AM

I was browsing around and came across a post listing all the improvements in the datejust model over the years... Perhaps someone has this bookmarked?

Thanks

Also, is the crown on TT datejust models solid gold?

jmjm · 5 October 2008, 05:35 AM

I think the best improvement is the synthetic crystal and not the "domed" plexiglass.
The crown, the bezel, the bracelet middle links, everything that is gold looking is solid 18k gold.

When I bought my DJ 12 yrs ago, after they adjusted the band, they handed me these tiny gold links that they had taken out and told me that it was worth about $300.

The new DJ's look fine. They're getting pretty funky with the dials though.....

tomred · 9 October 2008, 12:04 PM

Are DJ dials interchangeable?, i.e. will a dial from a modern Datejust 116234 fit an older 16220

sea-dweller · 16 October 2008, 10:30 AM

Good info in this post !

ballain · 23 November 2008, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lexor

The Datejust had a movement change from the 16013 to 16233 to 28.8 bps, this was considered a major upgrade at the time since the new movement came with a sapphire crystal.

Mouvement or case,

Cause i have a 16013 with an acrylic,
Mouvement is a 3035 and runs at 28,800bpm

Skutt50 · 29 November 2008, 08:01 AM

Ditto ballain.

I also have a 16013, acrylic, 3035 running at 28.800 bps.

harrington · 30 November 2008, 07:24 AM

hello i have just bought a datejust 16233 2005 model i am waiting for delivery but can someone tell me will this have solid gold links ?

sea-dweller · 30 November 2008, 01:13 PM

Here's my Z Series 116200 DJ, purchased in June. I love the Oyster bracelet and smooth bezel.

CH & USA · 30 November 2008, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sea-dweller

Here's my Z Series 116200 DJ, purchased in June. I love the Oyster bracelet and smooth bezel.

I just got the same one... except silver dial... LOVE IT!!!!!

dkpw · 1 December 2008, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sea-dweller

Here's my Z Series 116200 DJ, purchased in June. I love the Oyster bracelet and smooth bezel.

What a great combination of dial, bezel and bracelet. That is so clean and stylish.

sea-dweller · 1 December 2008, 02:36 PM

Needless to say, you've got great taste !

Quote:

Originally Posted by CH & USA

I just got the same one... except silver dial... LOVE IT!!!!!

sea-dweller · 1 December 2008, 02:40 PM

Thanks. This is the 3rd Datejust I've owned, and I will keep it for the reasons you've indicated. My previous 2 DJ's were older 16220's and they both had Jubilee bracelets and machined turned bezels (not the smooth one that is on my current DJ in the photo). I bought my previous DJ's, wore them for about a year each, and then sold them. When I saw my current DJ at the AD, I knew that the Oyster bracelet and smooth bezel combination is the cleanest DJ to own.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dkpw

What a great combination of dial, bezel and bracelet. That is so clean and stylish.

Numismatist · 2 December 2008, 11:20 AM

Anyone have a solid list of dial choices for the DJ with pix? I've gone mad trying to get the official Rolex website to work faster than a snail.

???

Cato · 2 December 2008, 06:41 PM

http://www.oysterworld.de/1/index.htm

Datejusts are wonderful!

sea-dweller · 3 December 2008, 09:04 AM

That's a beauty ! Love the arabic dial !

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cato

http://www.oysterworld.de/1/index.htm

Datejusts are wonderful!

subfanatic · 4 December 2008, 12:53 AM

Exactly the same as mine! I really like this watch. I was the same way, as soon as I saw it I was done looking. I wish I could take better pics.

sea-dweller · 4 December 2008, 03:06 AM

Love it !

Quote:

Originally Posted by subfanatic

Exactly the same as mine! I really like this watch. I was the same way, as soon as I saw it I was done looking. I wish I could take better pics.

jtvision · 5 December 2008, 10:57 AM

I had a DJ from the mid 80's- loved the thick look of acrylic crystal; however, it scratched quite easily. I have yet to put a single scratch on my sapphire.

tiff030 · 6 December 2008, 02:25 AM

Love the datejust. Beautiful watches.

dlackman · 10 December 2008, 11:58 PM

Wife's 179138Rolexes 056.jpg

loooper · 30 December 2008, 06:07 PM

when was the closed 9 and closed 6 calendar discs introduced?

Cato · 30 December 2008, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlackman

Wife's 179138Attachment 46980

You win!

coddger · 9 February 2009, 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harrington

hello i have just bought a datejust 16233 2005 model i am waiting for delivery but can someone tell me will this have solid gold links ?

Factory Jubilee style bracelets have 18k solid links. This is what comes with your 2005 DJ 16233. After-market bracelets, sometimes comes plated but most custom-made Italian gold bracelets are also solid gold.

Post some pictures when you get it so we can admire your DJ.

esm · 13 February 2009, 03:39 AM

great thread. thanks.

i have been thinking of getting a datejust with jubilee bracelet recently. either new or pre-owned, depends on what deal i can get, not too fussed.

quick questions -

is there anything i need to know when looking at a new one and a pre-owned one??

do they have different movements over the years?

whats the mai difference between a Date and a DateJust?

is a jubilee bracelet a "more appropriate" bracelet for the Datejust than the oyster bracelet?

what are the main differences between the clasp bracelet and the new hidden bracelet in jubilee style?

i have tried 2 new DateJusts yesterday, one with the hidden and the other with clasp bracelet, both SS models. the one i prefer has a white roman dial with the hidden clasp.

thanks in advance.

worldexpro · 18 February 2009, 06:48 AM

Great watch, beautiful and thank you all for the valued information

MFSEP · 21 February 2009, 01:29 PM

Here is my 78273 "Y" Serial. Wanting to get a SD since I joined this site but I got a 6" wrist.

hflee55 · 31 March 2009, 10:40 PM

love the DJ. nice write-up!

oneillba · 31 March 2009, 11:49 PM

Thanks for this thread. I absolutely love my Datejust.

20 January 2008, 11:41 AM	#1
Lol-x facilitator Join Date: Nov 2005 Real Name: Stavrodos Location: VK Posts: 24,206	The Rolex DateJust (current model) DateJust Reference Numbers: Date of production: The Rolex Date Just was introduced in 1945 as model 4467 and was to become the Flagship of the Rolex Line until the Day Date unseated it a decade later. The DateJust is still in production. It was initially introduced as the DateJust Jubilee, however, the Jubilee title somehow only became associated with the bracelet. Originally offered in a coin edged version, the fluted bezel came along shortly afterward in 1957. Some milestones for the DJ: . 1954.... Introduction of the cyclops . 1956.... First time another braclet besides the Jubilee offered (Oyster, Jubilee, or strap) . 1957.... Offered in Stainless Steel . 1962.... Introduction of the Two Tone models The Two Tone Datejust has remained largely unchanged (aesthetically) for the past ~60 years and is probably the most copied watch ever introduced. Movement: Power Reserve: Photographs: Links: Rolex Website - DateJust __________________ *Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be.* ~Abraham Lincoln Nothing compares to the simple pleasure of a bike ride. ~John F. Kennedy ROLEXploitation - yeah I'm a victim Last edited by Tools; 26 May 2008 at 02:05 AM.. Reason: Contributors: Lol-x, Larry

3 October 2008, 08:38 AM	#3
jtvision Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Vancouver Watch: Seiko to Rolex Posts: 225	datejust updates I was browsing around and came across a post listing all the improvements in the datejust model over the years... Perhaps someone has this bookmarked? Thanks Also, is the crown on TT datejust models solid gold?

2 December 2008, 11:20 AM	#15
Numismatist 2013 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Chris Location: Coast of Maine Watch: 116613 Blue Sub-C Posts: 6,120	Anyone have a solid list of dial choices for the DJ with pix? I've gone mad trying to get the official Rolex website to work faster than a snail. ??? __________________ Rolex TT Blue Sub-C; random serial number Montblanc Boheme Doue Gold Roller Ball Montblanc Solitaire Doue Black & White Legrand FP Montblanc Meisterstuck Classique black/gold Ball Pen Montblanc Meisterstuck Mozart black/gold Ball Pen > Proud founder of the Rolex Serial Number Club https://www.rolexforums.com/group.php?groupid=62

18 February 2009, 06:48 AM	#27
worldexpro "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Houston Posts: 10	great watch Great watch, beautiful and thank you all for the valued information

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6 June 2008, 11:32 AM	#2
Lexor "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Keith Location: Naples FL Watch: Rolex Posts: 11	The Datejust had a movement change from the 16013 to 16233 to 28.8 bps, this was considered a major upgrade at the time since the new movement came with a sapphire crystal.

5 October 2008, 05:35 AM	#4
jmjm "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: John Kim Location: Cerriros, CA Watch: Blue Submariner TT Posts: 381	I think the best improvement is the synthetic crystal and not the "domed" plexiglass. The crown, the bezel, the bracelet middle links, everything that is gold looking is solid 18k gold. When I bought my DJ 12 yrs ago, after they adjusted the band, they handed me these tiny gold links that they had taken out and told me that it was worth about $300. The new DJ's look fine. They're getting pretty funky with the dials though.....

9 October 2008, 12:04 PM	#5
tomred "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: uk Posts: 10	Are DJ dials interchangeable?, i.e. will a dial from a modern Datejust 116234 fit an older 16220

16 October 2008, 10:30 AM	#6
sea-dweller 2013 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Dennis Location: SF Bay Area, CA Watch: Rolex, of course! Posts: 16,417	Good info in this post !

29 November 2008, 08:01 AM	#8
Skutt50 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Steven Location: Sweden Watch: Old English Fusee Posts: 246	Ditto ballain. I also have a 16013, acrylic, 3035 running at 28.800 bps.

30 November 2008, 07:24 AM	#9
harrington "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: london Posts: 4	hello i have just bought a datejust 16233 2005 model i am waiting for delivery but can someone tell me will this have solid gold links ?

2 December 2008, 06:41 PM	#16
Cato "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Alhambra, Calif. Posts: 1,829	http://www.oysterworld.de/1/index.htm Datejusts are wonderful!

5 December 2008, 10:57 AM	#20
jtvision Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Vancouver Watch: Seiko to Rolex Posts: 225	I had a DJ from the mid 80's- loved the thick look of acrylic crystal; however, it scratched quite easily. I have yet to put a single scratch on my sapphire.

6 December 2008, 02:25 AM	#21
tiff030 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: TX Posts: 3	Love the datejust. Beautiful watches.

10 December 2008, 11:58 PM	#22
dlackman "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 92	Wife's 179138Rolexes 056.jpg

30 December 2008, 06:07 PM	#23
loooper "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Thailand Posts: 1	when was the closed 9 and closed 6 calendar discs introduced?

13 February 2009, 03:39 AM	#26
esm 2013 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Eric Location: Location,Location Watch: this, bro... Posts: 15,358	great thread. thanks. i have been thinking of getting a datejust with jubilee bracelet recently. either new or pre-owned, depends on what deal i can get, not too fussed. quick questions - is there anything i need to know when looking at a new one and a pre-owned one?? do they have different movements over the years? whats the mai difference between a Date and a DateJust? is a jubilee bracelet a "more appropriate" bracelet for the Datejust than the oyster bracelet? what are the main differences between the clasp bracelet and the new hidden bracelet in jubilee style? i have tried 2 new DateJusts yesterday, one with the hidden and the other with clasp bracelet, both SS models. the one i prefer has a white roman dial with the hidden clasp. thanks in advance.

21 February 2009, 01:29 PM	#28
MFSEP "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Michael Location: San Francisco, CA Watch: Santos de Cartier Posts: 43	Here is my 78273 "Y" Serial. Wanting to get a SD since I joined this site but I got a 6" wrist.

31 March 2009, 10:40 PM	#29
hflee55 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Andy Location: Kuala Lumpur, MY Posts: 3,251	love the DJ. nice write-up!

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