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View Poll Results: Does your 32xx movement seem to be 100% ok? | |||
Yes, no issues | 1,055 | 69.73% | |
No, amplitude is low (below 200) but timekeeping is still fine | 62 | 4.10% | |
No, amplitude is low (below 200) and timekeeping is off (>5 s/d) | 396 | 26.17% | |
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17 October 2024, 05:16 AM | #5371 | |
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You should try again to post a picture here of your results. Then you can get some analasis
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17 October 2024, 06:56 AM | #5372 |
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Exactly ;)
Here are my results. I indicated to the machine the settings indicated by SwissSteph: Lift Angle: 53°, Period: 60s and Rate Range +-99.9s/d. I then alternated every twelve hours for the first 60 hours, then more closely up to 71 hours the DU / 6U / 9U / 3U / DD positions. The watch remained on the Weishi support in the DD position between two measurements. It stopped almost immediately after 75h15 of running. My watch is a DateJust 126200 purchased in July 2024. I will try to make the same beautiful curves as presented by the other people before me but I am not very good at Excel. What do you think of these results? |
17 October 2024, 08:49 AM | #5373 |
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A few things I observe:
(1) all rates along the complete power reserve are negative. This new 3235 is not well regulated (t = 0). (2) the amplitudes look fine except that there is a large difference between DU and DD. (3) the beat errors are quite high. (4) I am astonished that you were able to measure after 65, 67, and 71 hours and that your 32xx watch ran until 75 hours. I haven't seen such a combination (1-4) of data for any 32xx caliber. |
17 October 2024, 01:19 PM | #5374 | |
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Had access to some family watches this weekend including a 10 year old non-serviced 3135 (daily driver) running about -1spd on wrist. Timeographer numbers fully wound +0 were fine; amplitude was a little low for 31xx 260s dial up. Another watch (DJ 31 from ~2012) was fantastic on timeographer but had just been serviced 1 year ago. |
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20 October 2024, 11:53 AM | #5375 |
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I am having trouble finding detailed information on the "new" small movements. Have done a little googling but watchbase and watch wiki aren't particularly helpful for my questions. I did a search and obviously these being smaller, "ladies" watches, there is substantially less discussion about them.
1. Is there a large technical difference between 2230/2235 and 2232/2236? Clearly power reserve was bumped to 55 hours. Is the new 2232/2236 simply upgrades of the 'old school' small movements or major changes like going from 3130/3135 to 3230/3235? I found this link: https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=904616 Which suggests they are very similar to 2230/2235...which is a good thing in my book. 2. The real question is has anyone had similar 32xx sickness on the 2232/2236 or heard of issues? @atxwatch How did your repair go? Any issues since you originally posted about your OP? |
21 October 2024, 06:06 AM | #5376 |
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Not sure about Q1, but for Q2 I don't think the 22xx movements utilise the chronergy escapement found in the 32xx movements so that is a positive if you are concerned about the issues reported on the 32xx.
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23 October 2024, 05:29 AM | #5377 | |
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Some interesting comments in the thread about silicon usage, seems like many lower and higher horology movements are shifting to this material. A few comments on shock-resistance as well. On a positive note, my watch was received at RSC Dallas and a service "Confirmation" was issued within one business day. Standard RSC verbiage many are familiar with listed. I had noted amplitude but not mentioned on confirmation sheet. Watch runs slow certainly seems to be the common terminology used Customer requests: "Watch runs slow". Necessary works and optional works approved: "Check movement". Due date: "Approximately 2 weeks" Another data point for future readers. My service reference number was 315XXX_003. My reference number for "Debris on date wheel" warranty claim in Aug 2021 was 66XXX_002. |
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24 October 2024, 07:22 AM | #5378 |
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24 October 2024, 10:35 AM | #5379 | |
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Just a (potentially) meaningless data point. Figured most of us in here are numbers nerds. |
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24 October 2024, 02:25 PM | #5380 |
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Yes, but not all.
Some prominent internet warriors take every opportunity to mock any accuracy discussion and timegrapher users. They act like arsonists to dismiss any technical 32xx discussion. Anyway, poor social media souls who will not succeed. Just my opinion! To all (new) readers: post your questions and share new data, especially from new 32xx watches, bought in 2024. It will help both, "newcomers" and technically interested people. I mainly continue in this thread to help others. |
24 October 2024, 02:28 PM | #5381 |
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I haven't seen that before: 135 (!) guests reading this thread at the same time.
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26 October 2024, 09:25 PM | #5382 |
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Is someone trying to remove this thread from public attention? I can't find it on google search anymore. I used to google "rolex forums 32xx" and get this thread as the first result, now there's no rolexforums.com result at all on the first page of google results.
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26 October 2024, 11:19 PM | #5383 | |
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https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=963682 Post #17 is specifically what is happening. |
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31 October 2024, 02:19 AM | #5384 | |
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Besides these repairs, I really think the 12 series sub is the absolute perfect watch, so pleased to have it back on the wrist. I will do a timeographer check as baseline in a week or two and post. |
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31 October 2024, 03:02 AM | #5385 |
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I'm interested in your feedback and future findings
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31 October 2024, 03:59 AM | #5386 |
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31 October 2024, 11:58 AM | #5389 |
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Some ramblings first:
1. When hot (worn for 24 hours straight) and placed on timegrapher, DU +6, 300 Amp. 2. Clearly the watch has been regulated Omega style (which I would prefer). I can't judge as worn rate having only had watch approximately one day (best guess 0 to -0.5spd). 3. Numbers start ticking down very regularly and evenly till it stabilized. This was common across all positions. I think you could let settle 15 minutes at each position if you wanted, but who has the time for that... Same for reversing positions. 9U to DU, will slowly and evenly tick up for rate and amp till it stabilizes. Fresh results below. I let watch sit DU for 2 hours to get to ambient (66F / 19 C). Wound fully. Settled 15 min DU. I let each position settle for 2 mins, as noted above probably could have settled longer. 7 Oct: Before service 30 Oct: After service |
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I suggest you a second simple test: after wearing during the day, place your watch at rest overnight and repeat the timegrapher test first thing in the morning, of course after full winding. It would be very interesting to see if you can reproduce the numbers or measure a difference. |
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1 November 2024, 01:03 AM | #5391 | |
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I have similar results after getting my SD43 back from Dallas RSC.
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1 November 2024, 04:19 PM | #5392 |
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What I find incredible is the closely guarded secrecy of what they do as a repair / adjustment ... that no information is “found” on the www!? With so many people aware of “what they're going to do to repair”, nothing leaks out, it's amazing...
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1 November 2024, 04:38 PM | #5393 |
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4 November 2024, 01:25 AM | #5394 |
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I’ve been checking on this thread every now and then. The recent repairs with higher than usual amplitude numbers are a bit reassuring. Assuming they replaced parts, my guess is that the new part/s tolerances have been ever so slightly modified to achieve higher amps.
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4 November 2024, 10:36 PM | #5395 | |
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It will still take some time to know for sure, but, unfortunately the current signs are not looking too good.
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6 November 2024, 03:41 AM | #5396 |
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Hey everyone! I just created this account to go from a simple reader to a participant and share my personal experience.
I live in the south of France, and I have a Submariner 124060 from September 2021. I never had any issues until early October, when I noticed it was losing around 20-25 seconds per day. I took it to my RCS, where I have a good relationship with them. They took my watch right away, and after about an hour, they gave it back to me. While I was waiting, I got to try out the latest 1908—really nice piece. Anyway, back with my Sub, I asked what they’d done and if they were aware of these issues with the 32XX movements. They told me yes, but it’s nothing major. They changed the escapement fork and lubed it up. Since then, no issues—it’s running perfectly and gaining around 3 seconds per day. Thanks, everyone, hope this helps! |
7 November 2024, 01:02 PM | #5397 | |
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We hope all goes well for your watch going forward. It's a beautiful watch. It's a pity that what's under the bonnet is a bit of a lottery for some. Enjoy |
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So they seem to have fixed.?
My DJ 41 lost time and had full service about 4 years ago. Purchased from grey so paid out of pocket for first service under 5 years. Ran great for a a year or two and lost time again. I don’t wear anymore and am afraid to spend another $1K for service to only get another year or two out of the watch working. Disappointed as I love the watch and only Rolex. Thoughts and feedback please!! |
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Today, 02:55 AM | #5400 |
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None I guess other than the tone of one of the other posts.
My question is can I reasonably expect to get 5 years out of a full service on my watch which has been an issue? I did not 4-5 years ago when I had full service to fix watch when it lost time after 3 or so years. (I purchased grey and ponied up for full service on my dime as opposed to trying to go through grey for their warranty) In other words watch ran for 3 years originally, had full service from certified Rolex tech here in Charlotte, watch went back to crazy accurate same as new, then lost time after close to two years (if I remember correctly) I dont want to spend $1k plus for 2 years of functionality. What is your opinion? Thanks! |
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