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Old 29 December 2021, 02:32 PM   #1
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DSSD-2008 Coronet Comparison

Hello DSSD lovers,

Does anyone know of any other models with the coronet in the dial as the DSSD MK1 (116660). Can't seem to find any.

DSSD=MK1,2 & 3, great comparison reference/pics.

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=252048
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Old 29 December 2021, 08:59 PM   #2
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Old 30 December 2021, 09:31 AM   #3
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Hello DSSD lovers,

Does anyone know of any other models with the coronet in the dial as the DSSD MK1 (116660). Can't seem to find any.

DSSD=MK1,2 & 3, great comparison reference/pics.

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=252048
What you are looking for is any reference with a "Bart Simpson" coronet.
Typically 4 digit references are where it's at, with 5513's featuring them. IIRC
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Old 30 December 2021, 11:46 AM   #4
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Hi Dirt, Thanks.

That's what I thought too, but if you take a closer look at the DSSD 2008 MK1 dial coronet, you will notice its pointy while Bart is curvy. Is it my eyes or it is so.

The DSSD MK 2 and MK3 coronets are the current/present version.
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Have to agree its funny before all this internet stuff started and loupe mania, most tiny variation were not noticed. Fact dials are made in 3 different factories now all own by Rolex, so there always have been, and always will be tiny variations on most all Rolex dials over the production years of any reference model.
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Old 30 December 2021, 07:12 PM   #6
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Have to agree its funny before all this internet stuff started and loupe mania, most tiny variation were not noticed. Fact dials are made in 3 different factories now all own by Rolex, so there always have been, and always will be tiny variations on most all Rolex dials over the production years of any reference model.
Agreed, production can vary with technology advancement and geographics (location), but without compromising its brand symbol (Name)-Detail matters.

I think this was an intentional design for the DSSD launch in 2008.

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Old 30 December 2021, 10:45 PM   #7
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Agreed, production can vary with technology advancement and geographics (location), but without compromising its brand symbol (Name)-Detail matters.

I think this was an intentional design for the DSSD launch in 2008.

A Brand logo is its pride and representation.
It can matter to the enthusiast and the manufacturer.
Just how much is going to be open to debate from time to time.
Your query still stands.
With regard to your observations of the shape of the coronet on the 08' (MK I dial). It is indeed more cambered across the top as opposed to the earliest as found on the 4 digits, but I believe it still can be regarded as a Bart Simpson type because the shape is more squeezed together as opposed to being splayed as is the custom currently.
For that matter I think it was more of a deliberate styling cue, simply because the rest of the font down lower is also bunched up so the coronet was squeezed up to balance out the aesthetic. It's just a theory though

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Old 31 December 2021, 12:27 AM   #8
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It can matter to the enthusiast and the manufacturer.
Just how much is going to be open to debate from time to time.
Your query still stands.
With regard to your observations of the shape of the coronet on the 08' (MK I dial). It is indeed more cambered across the top as opposed to the earliest as found on the 4 digits, but I believe it still can be regarded as a Bart Simpson type because the shape is more squeezed together as opposed to being splayed as is the custom currently.
For that matter I think it was more of a deliberate styling cue, simply because the rest of the font down lower is also bunched up so the coronet was squeezed up to balance out the aesthetic. It's just a theory though

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Thanks again dirt, yeap it's a great watch whatever font or coronet they throw at the dial. It's a real fine engineered timepiece on its own, I am happy to have found a March 2008 timepiece (1st batch production, apparently).

I was just curious so much talks about the DSSD MK1,2 and 3 dial when the distinctive engineering features are anything but the dial, at least before the JC model.

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Have to agree its funny before all this internet stuff started and loupe mania, most tiny variation were not noticed. Fact dials are made in 3 different factories now all own by Rolex, so there always have been, and always will be tiny variations on most all Rolex dials over the production years of any reference model.

I think the variations being discussed in coronets and fonts for Mk. I to III has less to do with the location, the people or the factory and more to do with the printing plate and pad makers.

Once tampography pads and the cliché gravure plates are made, they are shipped to the various locations for dial printing. These plates and pads wear out and are replaced by newly etched plates and fresh pads. Thus, the differences over time. So a dial difference might exist within a single production run of any reference since the dials are picked by watchmakers to use at their bench.

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I think the variations being discussed in coronets and fonts for Mk. I to III has less to do with the location, the people or the factory and more to do with the printing plate and pad makers.

Once tampography pads and the cliché gravure plates are made, they are shipped to the various locations for dial printing. These plates and pads wear out and are replaced by newly etched plates and fresh pads. Thus, the differences over time. So a dial difference might exist within a single production run of any reference since the dials are picked by watchmakers to use at their bench.

A good primer for those new to the process: https://quillandpad.com/2018/11/24/p...ained-reprise/



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Thank you! This was very informative
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Old 31 December 2021, 05:48 AM   #11
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I think the variations being discussed in coronets and fonts for Mk. I to III has less to do with the location, the people or the factory and more to do with the printing plate and pad makers.

Once tampography pads and the cliché gravure plates are made, they are shipped to the various locations for dial printing. These plates and pads wear out and are replaced by newly etched plates and fresh pads. Thus, the differences over time. So a dial difference might exist within a single production run of any reference since the dials are picked by watchmakers to use at their bench.

A good primer for those new to the process: https://quillandpad.com/2018/11/24/p...ained-reprise/


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From what we can gauge from pics of dials by fellow DSSD enthusiasts. Ther doesn't appear to be much variation in dial quality in these modern times. That is apart from the very distinct MK variants of course.
One wonders how many DSSD's have actually been made and how many dials can be printed with a pad generally
Not that I personally want to actually know. Just curious when I have a quiet moment or two with my MK II
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Thanks again dirt, yeap it's a great watch whatever font or coronet they throw at the dial. It's a real fine engineered timepiece on its own, I am happy to have found a March 2008 timepiece (1st batch production, apparently).

I was just curious so much talks about the DSSD MK1,2 and 3 dial when the distinctive engineering features are anything but the dial, at least before the JC model.

Happy New Year,sir!
My MK II says hi
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