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Blansky · 1 February 2024, 02:20 AM

Imagine owning a building, and someone builds next door, then builds OVER your property. Seems wrong.

Although I'll never own a building so it may not affect me too much.

https://newatlas.com/architecture/xa...in-architects/

https://www.cityrealty.com/nyc/marke...uildings/50043

brandrea · 1 February 2024, 02:23 AM

I don’t like the look of it, but I’m sure it’s engineered and all.

I think some city planners, architects, etc, just try to one up each other

crew · 1 February 2024, 02:25 AM

I thought that you “owned”, or at least had free use of the airspace above your property.
Like you, Blansky, I don’t own buildings so I have no dog in this fight.

Calatrava r · 1 February 2024, 04:29 AM

Who owns the airspace? In some places the airspace has to be purchased separately.

piratfisk · 1 February 2024, 04:49 AM

I'm not a zoning lawyer, but I'd imagine that if you were the smaller building owner & you wanted to build up, "through" where that overhang is, you may have an argument that someone else's structure impedes your right to expand your property within your zoned footprint.

uscmatt99 · 1 February 2024, 05:06 AM

Yeah it's all about the city's air rights laws. There is a building I saw on the Chicago architecture tour that sits above an Amtrak line. Amtrak owns the land and air rights, and the building leases from Amtrak. So either this building is leasing that space, or they purchased it separate from the building underneath it.

Watchdoyouwant? · 1 February 2024, 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by crew

I thought that you “owned”, or at least had free use of the airspace above your property.
Like you, Blansky, I don’t own buildings so I have no dog in this fight.

Looks like no common law light and air easement, but this is a bit different because the new tower is intruding into the smaller structure's potential building envelope. My guess is that the right to build was sold to the encroacher.

https://blog.firstam.com/commercial/...ir-in-new-york

TK-710 · 1 February 2024, 05:43 AM

Something tells me they worked out all the legal nuances before they built it.

SearChart · 1 February 2024, 06:31 AM

I think it looks cool, but I'm not the owner of the other building

RTG · 1 February 2024, 01:02 PM

Totally safe, they put the fat residents on the left side.

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brandrea 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Brian (TBone) Location: canada Watch: es make me smile Posts: 74,384	I don’t like the look of it, but I’m sure it’s engineered and all. I think some city planners, architects, etc, just try to one up each other

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crew "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: John Location: Rochester/Naples Watch: Pepsi Posts: 18,250	I thought that you “owned”, or at least had free use of the airspace above your property. Like you, Blansky, I don’t own buildings so I have no dog in this fight.

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Calatrava r 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: United States Watch: Rolex and Patek Posts: 10,708	Who owns the airspace? In some places the airspace has to be purchased separately.

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uscmatt99 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Chicago Posts: 2,031	Yeah it's all about the city's air rights laws. There is a building I saw on the Chicago architecture tour that sits above an Amtrak line. Amtrak owns the land and air rights, and the building leases from Amtrak. So either this building is leasing that space, or they purchased it separate from the building underneath it.

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